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DebsDeep 12-15-2009 07:26 AM

Is Amateur Making a comeback?
 
Lets look at the facts....

I think everyone agrees the problems right now are tubes and economy.. So...


Tubes cannot give you what a good amateur website can.....
Like content requests, interaction, member live shows, correspondence and a feeling of "knowing" the performer... plain and simple, many of these guys like to know the girl. Trust me I know this!

I see more and more people (affiliates) looking to promote true old school amateur sites which leads to another point, if your old school amateur your more than likely using a 3rd party billing company like ccbill who handles affiliate payouts so affliates can be sure to get paid. When money is on your mind I think that would be a top priority which again leads to the next point.....

With seeing all these programs closing or not paying affiliates I am sure many are a little skeptical, some of these guys have built up traffic networks that have cost money and ALOT of time and they hope to send as many joins as they can and again, in this economy they want to make sure they are going to be paid......

Therefor,
What can an affiliate promote that sells and makes sure they get thier money they earned? Real Amateur Sites!!!

alias 12-15-2009 07:27 AM

Did it ever fade?

CaptainHowdy 12-15-2009 07:29 AM

Physical sex will make a much more impressive comeback...

DebsDeep 12-15-2009 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16647305)
Did it ever fade?

no but everything seems to be more pro type stuff now,
many people dont want to promote stuff thats not shot in HD with a 10 thousand dollar camera.

How many times have you seen amateur content literally made fun of because it wasnt TOP quality lighting etc.... So they stay away from it because its not all "perfect"

DebsDeep 12-15-2009 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 16647313)
Physical sex will make a much more impressive comeback...

I havent been able to get that figured out, we need to hook an iphone to a fleshlight and go mobile!!

Be alot of iphone tipping going on

MaDalton 12-15-2009 07:39 AM

i just know that our amateur content sells better than anything else we have :2 cents:

alias 12-15-2009 07:44 AM

What about "self shot" or "ex gf" that is just an evolution of amateur.

Wizzo 12-15-2009 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debsdeepthroat (Post 16647321)
no but everything seems to be more pro type stuff now,
many people dont want to promote stuff thats not shot in HD with a 10 thousand dollar camera.

How many times have you seen amateur content literally made fun of because it wasnt TOP quality lighting etc.... So they stay away from it because its not all "perfect"

I think its just a matter of perspective, seems from here that amateur has been steady growing for a few years now. :upsidedow

Les Grossman 12-15-2009 08:05 AM

Amateur never went away. The only thing that changed was that more webmasters got hip to it or old webmasters realized amateur still kicked ass.

Too many webmasters (not consumers) get caught up in tech shit and HD. Most guys just want to beat their meat, and LOVE real girls in real situations, not some dumb fucking scene with a guy with his cock in a pizza box.

CIVMatt 12-15-2009 08:06 AM

Amateur will always be fine :)

halfpint 12-15-2009 08:15 AM

I dont think amateur went any where.

The Duck 12-15-2009 08:30 AM

I can say this; Amateur is making me a lot of money right now.

GTS Mark 12-15-2009 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16647403)
Amateur never went away. The only thing that changed was that more webmasters got hip to it or old webmasters realized amateur still kicked ass.

Too many webmasters (not consumers) get caught up in tech shit and HD. Most guys just want to beat their meat, and LOVE real girls in real situations, not some dumb fucking scene with a guy with his cock in a pizza box.

Who doesn't love a guy with a cock in a pizza?!!! Come on now!!! LOL!

Paul Markham 12-15-2009 09:00 AM

Amateur has always sold well, the problem has been producing it. As some say they think amateur should be shot HD which demands good lighting. Once you go down that road you get away from the niche,

But the most important thing is the models and the way it's shot. Too often it ends up looking like a badly shot scene of a professional model.

As for it's profitability, before I was ill I was talking about shooting amateur for a big sponsor, his problem was he was unable or unwilling to pay a decent price. To me the success of a market is down to what people are able/prepared to pay to fill their site.

fris 12-15-2009 09:09 AM

amateur is always a good seller, always has been

DebsDeep 12-15-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST (Post 16647505)
Who doesn't love a guy with a cock in a pizza?!!! Come on now!!! LOL!

hehehe, ya

Bossman 12-15-2009 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16647343)
What about "self shot" or "ex gf" that is just an evolution of amateur.

Yes, and so is the entire cam sex industry :2 cents: (the "am" in "Cam" is for amatures :winkwink:

The "amature" market has never suffered or been bigger than it is today - however it has changed format/delivery method several times.

Porko 12-15-2009 12:02 PM

Real Amateur is the best converting thing now..

BillyHoe 12-15-2009 12:39 PM

Amateur is our business and has always done fine :) http://www.iamateurs.net

bdld 12-15-2009 12:42 PM

you can sell anything with the right marketing.

DebsDeep 12-15-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld (Post 16648512)
you can sell anything with the right marketing.

Agreed, Our stuff is moving nicely but I pst this because I have noticed a nice increase in sales

spunky99 12-15-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porko (Post 16648285)
Real Amateur is the best converting thing now..

and when you can steal it.. your start up cost is zero

DebsDeep 12-15-2009 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 16650544)
and when you can steal it.. Your start up cost is zero


dont remind me

MaDalton 12-15-2009 08:39 PM

see sig - low starting costs but legal ;)

Boobzooka 12-15-2009 08:52 PM

I've never been a fan of porn that takes itself too seriously. Turning it into something professional sucks all the life out of it.

ganjaman 12-15-2009 08:53 PM

yeah and everyone is buying the same cars ... :winkwink:

Intervader 12-15-2009 09:01 PM

People will always dig amateur, just so much of it out there now...

fris 12-15-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 16650544)
and when you can steal it.. your start up cost is zero

hey thinks its ok to use peoples content until hes caught to remove it, and that makes it legit.

The Porn Nerd 12-15-2009 10:30 PM

Mister Peabody World is all mateur, and we're rockin'. Amateur has always sold for us. I mean, take a look at the designs and the girls!! Say what you will about how everything SUCKS but there's 1 thing there's no denying: it's fucking amateur. No 'pro' would put their name on us. LOL

And THAT'S what sells. Show me the pink so i can jack it, splooge, clean up and get back to work, life, etc.

spunky99 12-16-2009 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16650950)
hey thinks its ok to use peoples content until hes caught to remove it, and that makes it legit.

i'd steal his content but i'd rather know that the girls are 18+

»Rob Content« 12-16-2009 12:56 AM

amateur is what it's all about

Playboy-Deak 12-16-2009 01:17 AM

I shoot Black Amateur Porn and Im swell over here! :thumbsup

DebsDeep 12-16-2009 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playboy-Deak (Post 16651235)
I shoot Black Amateur Porn and Im swell over here! :thumbsup

I like your avatar

JimmiDean 12-16-2009 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 16647486)
I can say this; Amateur is making me a lot of money right now.

Our number one selling site is and has always been the hiddenwife.
Amateur never goes out of style.

SexMyWife 12-16-2009 04:52 AM

Lots of great points in this thread. In less than 2 weeks, we'll have been online for 11 years. Hopefully, the "real" amateur sites will live on for a long, long time to cum. :jerkoff

:smilie_we

DebsDeep 12-16-2009 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexMyWife (Post 16651494)
Lots of great points in this thread. In less than 2 weeks, we'll have been online for 11 years. Hopefully, the "real" amateur sites will live on for a long, long time to cum. :jerkoff

:smilie_we

yeh after reading some repies I realized I shouldnt have said its making a comeback i suppose, cuz it never left.

It seems to me with all thats happening right now amateur is definetly the way to go for surfers and affiliates

ArsewithClass 12-16-2009 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debsdeepthroat (Post 16647304)
Lets look at the facts....

I think everyone agrees the problems right now are tubes and economy.. So...


Tubes cannot give you what a good amateur website can.....
Like content requests, interaction, member live shows, correspondence and a feeling of "knowing" the performer... plain and simple, many of these guys like to know the girl. Trust me I know this!

I see more and more people (affiliates) looking to promote true old school amateur sites which leads to another point, if your old school amateur your more than likely using a 3rd party billing company like ccbill who handles affiliate payouts so affliates can be sure to get paid. When money is on your mind I think that would be a top priority which again leads to the next point.....

With seeing all these programs closing or not paying affiliates I am sure many are a little skeptical, some of these guys have built up traffic networks that have cost money and ALOT of time and they hope to send as many joins as they can and again, in this economy they want to make sure they are going to be paid......

Therefor,
What can an affiliate promote that sells and makes sure they get thier money they earned? Real Amateur Sites!!!

When you say amateur, you still mean professional & not homemade?

I notice some sites, even pro sites have cameras taking pictures, the noise and the flash is really fucking annoying. :2 cents:

For you to promote, Our sites are varient of amateur, a few POV home made looking movies & some professional scenes with lights, professional camera, no handshake, no clicks from the camera zoom with no camera flash with scenes following a script.

See our sig. :winkwink:

I personally prefer a decent scene with no script, no clicking of cameras but well lit with a professional camera. A decent amateur movie. :thumbsup

nation-x 12-16-2009 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debsdeepthroat (Post 16647304)
Lets look at the facts....

I think everyone agrees the problems right now are tubes and economy.. So...


Tubes cannot give you what a good amateur website can.....
Like content requests, interaction, member live shows, correspondence and a feeling of "knowing" the performer... plain and simple, many of these guys like to know the girl. Trust me I know this!

I see more and more people (affiliates) looking to promote true old school amateur sites which leads to another point, if your old school amateur your more than likely using a 3rd party billing company like ccbill who handles affiliate payouts so affliates can be sure to get paid. When money is on your mind I think that would be a top priority which again leads to the next point.....

With seeing all these programs closing or not paying affiliates I am sure many are a little skeptical, some of these guys have built up traffic networks that have cost money and ALOT of time and they hope to send as many joins as they can and again, in this economy they want to make sure they are going to be paid......

Therefor,
What can an affiliate promote that sells and makes sure they get thier money they earned? Real Amateur Sites!!!

See sig please

Max_PuZcash 12-16-2009 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16647305)
Did it ever fade?

Exactly, had the impression it was something that was popular all the time


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