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armus 12-16-2009 03:35 PM

CCBILL ratios very low than others, why?
 
Okay after 2004 i returned to build a new TGP .
Before 2004, my converts were about 1:50 from the galleries i made for my own TGP.

I see that these ratios screwed gone upto 1:5000.

Its a month i started but i already have some sales hwever there is a big difference between cbbill affiliated accounts and private accounts.

ccbill ratio is 1:8000 and going up others are all below 1:700

I asked them too but they have not returned yet altough they told me to look into the links i have.


Do you have different ratios between ccbill and non-ccbill accounts ratios?

ez12 12-16-2009 03:38 PM

CCBill seems to count an absurd amount of hits.. My conversion ratio with CC is always worse than my other programs, but hey make the most sales and that's what counts for me.

flip.green 12-16-2009 03:44 PM

this should be expected not everyone determines ratios the same way some programs count 2nd page hits only when calculating ratios people pretty much do whatever they want there is no standard its up to the company running the program. The only other factor to consider would be scrubbing, but i doubt you get far with that line of questioning.

Agent 488 12-16-2009 03:46 PM

don't feel bad i am 1:254,000 with ccbill this year.

armus 12-16-2009 03:49 PM

But i know the traffic on the galleries, most of the accounts are at ccbill and most of the traffic is at the galleries which have ccbill affiliated links. It is like 80% and 20% but sales amount is just reversed of it.

armus 12-16-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16653608)
don't feel bad i am 1:254,000 with ccbill this year.

give me that 254,000 traffic i will pay double of what ccbill pays you then

CCBill Paul 12-16-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armus (Post 16653511)
Okay after 2004 i returned to build a new TGP .
Before 2004, my converts were about 1:50 from the galleries i made for my own TGP.

I see that these ratios screwed gone upto 1:5000.

Its a month i started but i already have some sales hwever there is a big difference between cbbill affiliated accounts and private accounts.

ccbill ratio is 1:8000 and going up others are all below 1:700

I asked them too but they have not returned yet altough they told me to look into the links i have.


Do you have different ratios between ccbill and non-ccbill accounts ratios?

As ez12 said, we do count every hit so this could be a big part of the explanation. If you have any questions on our answer or want to discuss further hit me up.

SomeCreep 12-16-2009 04:17 PM

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Supz 12-16-2009 04:24 PM

who cares. at least you know you will get paid :)

Boobzooka 12-16-2009 04:58 PM

The difference is CCBill doesn't play silly games to make ratios look sexy.

JamesK 12-16-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16653608)
don't feel bad i am 1:254,000 with ccbill this year.

:1orglaugh

even bot traffic would do better than that

DVTimes 12-16-2009 05:30 PM

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potter 12-16-2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobzooka (Post 16653914)
The difference is CCBill doesn't play silly games to make ratios look sexy.


:2 cents::2 cents:

CCBill just counts hits. Period. No more no less, you see exactly what you're sending.

Other sites, can set their ratio to track first page, second page, join page, uniques, non uniques, etc etc the list goes on. It's all a marketing ploy because they want you to think you're doing better with them over another program.

Program A, you send 10,000 hits and make 10 sales. They use CCBill, you have a ratio of 10:10000 (or 1:1000)

Program B, you send 10,000 hits and make 5 sales. They use another system, and count join only hits. You have a ration of 5:1500 (or 1:300).

Does it make sense now?

Lace 12-16-2009 09:09 PM

Hold on, 1:50 from tgp traffic in 04? Are you kidding me?

camgirlshide 12-16-2009 09:30 PM

The ccbill stat I hate the most is my referred affiliate stat, althought it is getting better. For about the last 5 years it was at 0. For all of 2009 so far I'm at $63.87 with over 75 referred affiliates.

Max_PuZcash 12-17-2009 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16653608)
don't feel bad i am 1:254,000 with ccbill this year.

What kind of traffic do you have?? Or was this a joke?

MrDeiz 12-17-2009 03:29 AM

Try to rotate your sponsors. CCBill is better than NATS or any other back-end

We have listed 100% of ALL CCBill programs: http://www.xbiz.com/news/114188 , so you'll definitely find what you are looking for

nico-t 12-17-2009 07:25 AM

yes i experience the same. Its worhtless crap.
CCBill this year: 1:31969

armus 12-17-2009 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16654473)
Hold on, 1:50 from tgp traffic in 04? Are you kidding me?

no i am not kidding, i also suprised when i start first adult biz adn have seen them both my ibill and ccbill ratios were about that and i was upset when i saw lower than 5 sales a day altough my tgp was 3 months old yet in these days. i think ibill closed.
However most of them were trials but returning to the full too

johnuk 12-17-2009 08:19 AM

From my experience CCBill seem to scrub alot harder than other processors (which I guess is whay they've been around so long lol)

femdomdestiny 12-17-2009 08:25 AM

Periods
 
There were several periods when CCbill ratios were extremely bad for me while other programs remained stable. I just hope it won't happen again because I never found explanation. And just when I was planing to drop them (during those periods), ratios went back to normal.

Anyway, I would always choose working with ccbill programs then with any other using nats, mpa3, or similar...

andrej_NDC 12-17-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 16655665)
yes i experience the same. Its worhtless crap.
CCBill this year: 1:31969

I have 1:233 on ccbill's affiliate account this year, raw, 1:58 uniques...on 1000 sales or so. Don't blame ccbill, blame you.

BillyHoe 12-17-2009 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armus (Post 16655737)
no i am not kidding, i also suprised when i start first adult biz adn have seen them both my ibill and ccbill ratios were about that and i was upset when i saw lower than 5 sales a day altough my tgp was 3 months old yet in these days. i think ibill closed.
However most of them were trials but returning to the full too

1:50?? on front door hits? What was your TGP, and what was the program?


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