Your grandma died? FUCK YOU...PAY ME
 

You know who you are thief. My wife says I'm cold hearted, what do you think?

i think you are a broke bitch.

karma is a bitch.

Yeow ........


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Who is it?

People who aren't going to pay can come up with a million reasons. Normal people pay and don't give a reason. work with the second group when you can.

+1 I would like to know too

is it you?

obviously you.

I think people shouldn't use their personal problems as excuses as to why they can't pay you. Everyone has personal problems, illnesses, etc...

How long does it take to make a payment? couple minutes? There is no excuse why a payment can't be made unless the person in question is in a hospital bed with no way to connect to the internet. If they can find the time to make an excuse they have enough time to pay you.


Excuses or are just excuses, a reason they think is good enough to not pay you because they either don't have the money or don't want to pay.

Yea ok its me, and so what? :)

I am not interested in doing business on GFY with any of you so :)

pussy lips

Not broke, got enough to pay my bills and taxes due in April not much left over after that though. But things are looking up. Yeah karma is a bitch it's also very rewarding if you don't fuck people over.

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I got the same excuse from this person... Read the story below off my personal message board.. He seems to really be unstable and drunk for the new years calling me a whore and have some problems tonight.

What I Went Through Below from a different thread....

I saw you all over the board looking for work so I thought I would give you a logo for a PERSONAL project back in March. It was for my mainstream stuff for ME, and not for a client, so I could test you out to see how you were. Well, you went MIA for months on end, constantly giving excuses of family problems, until I finally got a logo design out that was absolutely horrible. I asked you for revisions and then you came to me asking for payment because you needed to pay hosting. All I ever got was excuse after excuse after excuse after that.

10-09-2009 = Consider it done before sunday.
10-14-2009 (Tuesday) = Hey Sarah sorry, I am currently working on it, I will post it here when done.

this is when I got a logo that looked like a recycling logo (not at all what I wanted). That same day I asked for some revisions

10-15-2009 = Hi Sarah, I will be comming up with a total new design tomorrow afternoon.
Can I ask you a favor though? I need to pay for my hosting and I just cashed my epassporte last week (forget this bill). Could you send me the $150.00 for the logo in advance? Don't worry I will make it work.

I paid $75 on 10-15-2009

10-16-2009 (me) = when do you think you'll have a few more to look at?
10-17-2009 (me) = Please let me know when you think you will have some more for me to look at.
10-19-2009 (AdultCreation) = Hi Sarah - I was out in the weekend. I am working on the new design as I write this message. Should be soon!
10-21-2009 (me) = Still waiting to see these.
10-22-2009 (AdultCreation) = Arghhhhh Sarah so sorry. Tomorrow you will have it sure thing.

still nothing.....

10-22-2009 (me)= This is getting to be completely unacceptable. I paid you 9 days ago and the excuses are getting really old. Send over the logos you should have already completed by now or send back the $75 I sent you

10-25-2009 (me) = Marvin, this is over. I am so dissatisfied with this whole process. You do realize how long it's been since I gave you money, right? The first logo you gave me was a recycling logo and nowhere in line with what I need. I see that you came to the board and viewed this thread and didn't even have the decency to respond to it. I don't want to continue with, since apparently you have no intention of providing what I paid you for. Please let me know as soon as my $75 has been returned

10-26-2009 (AdultCreation) = Sarah, I am sorry to have pushed your patience. I am always comming through, but I had a few personal problems (sickness) in my family which I do not wish to discuss, however they influenced my working schedule by much.

then he threw me a logo in which I said:

10-26-2009 (me) = I understand everyone has problems, but you told me 1 day on the 22nd and it's now the 26th. Even before that, I've had to push and push and push to see any kind of progress and each time, I'm met with a "I'm working on it" type excuse. In all honesty, this logo looks like it took you about 5 minutes and I don't think it's at all a representation of what you have in your portfolio. Regardless, as I said yesterday I'm not interested in working with you any further and would like to get a refund. No hard feelings, but I'm a designer and I know how long things take to get done. I just didn't have the time to do this myself and thought it would be good trial to pass you some work, but I'm just not impressed at all with the result or the time it's taken. I hope everything gets better with your family

10-28-2009 (me) = Please get in touch with me regarding my posts
10-30-2009 (me) = Hello? I would appreciate atleast a response to this. Just because you have problems doesn't excuse your lack of work before the incident and completely ignoring it now

11-02-2009 (me) = Had you been on time with your work prior to your family incident, I would have been much more understanding. You've been stringing me along since before you disappeared. It's a really good thing I didn't prepay you in full and this is a prime example of why I never prepay anyone that I haven't worked with before. Because here you sit with my money, and I don't have a usable logo and you weren't on time or reliable about any of it. The very first thing you said was "consider it done on Sunday" and then didn't post anything until that Wednesday, so this has been an issue since the beginning. Remember when I gave you this back in March? Then I came to you in May and you said you'd get them done in the next few days. Then you came back in July and said you were "busy with personal things". Then you came back in August saying you were having a "bad period of time". I can't keep this going on for months and months with this. Now it's because of family problems. Apparently this is an ongoing problem and I shouldn't have given you half down in the first place.

That's fine that your family comes first before your business. But it doesn't come before my business, especially when you give me no idication of what's going on. If you are going to ignore your work, that fine...but you forfeit any right to be upset or expect anything from the people who have been waiting on you while you made that decision. And those people you keep waiting have every right to expect a refund while you ignored them.

Why is it that you would be upset about your lost time, when it's YOU that put yourself in that situation? How about my lost time as your paying client that was relying on you to do my personal logo? It's not like you were doing exactly what you should have been doing and I just backed out. You left me hanging for days on end, completely ignoring me.

I told you on the 25th that I didn't want you to do this anymore. If you decided that day to try and push something out so you didn't have to give a refund, then I'm sorry. I didn't ask you to do that. I am so dissatisfied with how this was handled, with your time management, and with the empty promises of preview dates. That's not how I like to do business. I'm very unhappy since March when I originally gave you this and I don't want you to do it and I want a refund.

and it's been a losing battle ever since. I have not been able to get a single response from him and even gave him the option of trying out another personal logo, all of which was ignored until I posted in another thread. Then he suddenly wrote me on ICQ pissed off that I posted in the first place and saying that he does "design stuff for Pierre (worldsex), Richard (worldsex), Patrick (thehun)" and that all of this is just beer money to him.

Trying to throw out a comment that I'm outsourcing something to him when I actually hired him to work on a personal logo is a really sad attempt to lash out when he's backed into a corner. What's more, after making that comment he wrote asking if I wanted him to do another logo because "I never want to fight believe me."

My only reason for posting in this thread in the first place was because I got fucked on this project, and it seems that he's fucked over countless other people in attempts to get his "beer money" and I shouldn't have to hold back from saying anything about it

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/945347-adultcreation-v2-0-released-15-referral-program.html

Looks like you're trying to do business with GFY users to me...

Fucking loser. :disgust

Bump for Choker and to get this idiot off GFY.

Go to insult Baddog his mother one more time too, ginger toad. Ugly fat bastard, doing nothing than surfing on GFY and trying to get mrnoob off the ground. :disgust:disgust:disgust:disgust

Wow Choker you serious? I would have never expected that. I thought you would have bankrolled huge by now.

Ask these clients about me Zuzana, and how you mentioned they were all on your client list. Fucking bitch.

You were running your mouth, but in fact you are the one running specials because business is SUCKING for you. I do stocks, what do you have. :1orglaugh

This shit is bananas! :banana

Didn't I come through well for Michael with the 2 logo's :pimp This guy is insane I even offered him a credit double in return on his $150.

Gotta love it man, i'll be here all night, drinking from my French Merlot (no alcohol, but fresh fruit juice)

anyone here like kinda gay but not really?

me too, all these dating threads hes been making...

First of all, countless? I never fucked anybody over, but name it. Since you love to throw out comments. It shows that Zuzana is just trying to throw cake my way, but it ain't hitting. Don't do business with this company its all outsourced to third world parties.

EAT ME BITCH. :pimp

lol... how rather random. You got that gallery sorted yet man? :)

I've never outsourced my art ... but does it matter? Isn't the quality and service all that matters? I never dealt with you of course so I'm not making judgement... I just don't know why it matters if it's being outsourced. :/

Fris, out of chartiy, 1 logo - $30 :pimp

You can donate it to a cancer orginasation, to which my (both) grandma's has died unfortunately.

Hey Twisted Dave, I never mentioned you outsourced. I mentioned Zuzana outsources. Maybe you misunderstood me. I do not have beef with you. Cheers.

Good to know :upsidedow

I love seeing people burning bridges :2 cents:

No man, it's cool. I didn't misunderstand. I was just wondering if it was that big a deal. But of course it's all opinion isn't it :) So no worries! :)

I'm doing good, blew a lot of money over the years, I've finally grown up and stopped blowing money on stupid shit like I used to. I hope to be able to retire totally within 5 years and travel a lot. I don't know I love working so much doubt I'll ever retire. My dating network is supporting me pretty good now and the gay traffic is taking off like a rocket. I'm always putting money I make into new ventures, some work, most fail. Dating and gay traffic is the future for me. I'm living in a 8000 square foot house on the intercoastal and funny thing is I'm tired of it. I miss the simple life. My daughter is pregnant so I'm gonna be a grandpa soon, this has really made me re-evaluate my life. I want to "downgrade" my lifestyle and make it simple again with lots of money in the bank for my kid and her kid. My daughter will be helping with my dating program and hopefully one day run it totally so I can take off and travel with my wife. I guess I'm at that point that there is nothing I want that I don't already have. My kids future is all that matters to me at this point.

Commence the Turtle Tactic.

i blame gansta rap

Im travelling to Thailand for +-5 years now and I love it. Quit sitting behind your pc foo and start livin.

People that know me know what I am talkin about.

Maybe your daughter will be rich and never know how it's like to make money.

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That makes sense. Good for you for realizing it. I think a lot of people realize it when it's too late and have nothing left.

It has always been, and always be.

To some, at least.

Mrnoob off the ground? Pahahahahahahahahah, you're so behind it's not even funny.

Squeeze as much money out of people before to many start calling you out, you may become the next Batts.

You have always been, and always will be, a Zuzana (outsourcing) Designs fan. :pimp

I do not burn bridges believe me. :2 cents:

My dating network is doing good, not great. But I define great as double the income this month as the previous month. Income for November was double Octobers, but so far Decemember is only like 150% of Novembers income. My target goal was 200% income growth per month. I'm still at over $2 per free member so the model is sound and profitable. The cobrands so far to date are not sending the amount of traffic needed to double income every month. Therefore I'm making a affiliate program in addition to the cobrand system.

How do you figure?
Our main designers are dickmans, and 2-3 others

Actually Zuzana has yet to do any work for us :upsidedow

Batts? What's up with that? Batts keeps appearing on my ICQ and off again! :)

oh shit, do we really have a batts sighting?

If you have been waiting on payment and another excuse comes up, it's bullshit.

If it's new business, or someone you already have done business with, and they put you on hold for family... you wait. If you don't have respect for them on that, then you don't deserve to do business with them or anyone.

Only my ICQ. Batts signs on all the time. Never spoken to him tho. Well, not since I did a design for him a loooong time ago. He did take months to pay but did pay in the end.

This coming from the API dude?

I've always had a bit of respect for you, Choker - and if you've been ripped I feel for you. But that "don't fuck people over" line is cracking me and Mr. Smirnoff the fuck up!

What if you advanced someone a measly $150 for design work, they disapear for like 6 weeks, never contact you again until you call them out on gfy, they say thier grandma died, said sorry and will repay you in a few days yet never do? I don't want to sound like some guys on this board and say $150 is something I wipe my ass with, but it's nothing at all to me, not even worth the time to post about, but I'm bored and people need to know about this scammer. I hate thieves.

You obviously don't understand what a API is or how I use them, nobody is getting fucked over.

Yo whats up....DOC,

I offered him $500 in delay. He did not contact me one time prior to making the first thread about me, calling me a thief. :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Why? Are you finally going to admit that your avatar is actually a backside picture of your ass in those sexy yellow panties? :Oh crap :1orglaugh :Oh crap :1orglaugh :helpme

lol nah its a real girl i was just curious, you know how someone at a party breaks the ice with "anyone wanna have a JO circle?" someone has to get the ball rolling.