James Cameron's Avatar already 4th Place in ALL TIME BOX OFFICE WORLDWIDE in 18 days!
 

Check out the stats
1. Titanic $1,842,879,955
2. Return of the King $1,119,110,941
3. Dead Man's Chest $1,066,179,725
4. Avatar $1,063,151,759
5. The Dark Knight $1,001,921,825

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

Although ticket prices have gone up & also imax tickets are way more expensive.

This will be #1 in no time:2 cents:

(note: titanic was on theaters for 41weeks!)

Don't know what's so special about this movie

It was 4th all-time in 17 days - you're a day late. BTW, the moon you see in the sky? FYI we managed to land on it some decades ago.

Also population growth and the pop culture emergence of social networking probably played a major role.

The question is if you play avatar in a 1930s theater would it make as much? Maybe not even a tiny fraction

Even though the plot has been done before, it's still a crowd pleaser. It's the type of story that cuts across all demographics. You take that toss in some of the most amazing effects and newest technology and it's captivates people. You have a movie that people can take their kids to see (that it's a kiddie flick) and you can even bring grandma for the most part.

Add to that a lot of hype and great marketing efforts and that makes for a huge take at the box office.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh your right

the movie fucking sucks

Titanic
1997 dollars - $1,850,000,000

inflation adjusted dollars 2009 - $2,490,000,000

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

avatar has a long way to go, $1.4b

Is the movie really that good? I mean without the 3D effects. The trailers looks super boring, so does the plot.

They call that stat the C-P-Lie. hehe. Don't get me started on how they cook the books with that one. Also, useful to note is that they only calculate inflation for things that don't really inflate. Real estate / rent, food, education, energy, insurance, cars, etc is what the CPI should be primarily focused on since that is where people spend their money.

For more accurate inflation try. http://www.shadowstats.com/

Plot is overly simplistic but I went back a 2nd time to watch it. The CG is amazing. Sometimes it makes you wonder if it is CG or actors with really good makeup.

It may not make it to Titanic's US or worldwide take WITH inflation but I wouldn't be surprised if at least NOT taking into account inflation, it beats both the worldwide and US takes. With inflation there's no chance, but given the shitty economic times the world is in, it's amazing it's doing as well as it is. I mean fuck, when I saw its first day pull was like $24 million and was less than Sherlock Holmes, I thought it was going to end up flopping.

surprised the love guru wasn't on the list.

I saw it yesterday and liked it very much

Inflation or not, it will be #1. You have to take into account that even at $13 tickets, people are seeing it again and again. You also have to take into account that there was no piracy during the Titanic years. Avatar is the most downloaded thing in the world, yet it's making a killing in the box office. Had there been piracy during Titanic, Titanic would have made only a fraction of what it did.

Damn,lot of money but movie is fucking good!

you really think so....coz I did not find the movie all that great considering that Cameron spent 10 years creating this movie....same old story but in a new twist....instead of earth being attacked by aliens and winning against all impossible odds, its earthlings attacking aliens & winning ...HA HA

What? There is hardly any inflation on a movie ticket. How much did you pay for a movie in 1997 dollars? Probably a little bit less than what your paying today. But keep in mind that most theaters are charging $3-5 more for the 3D effect as well, so that can't be attributed to inflation. Apples to apples next time. :2 cents:

It still has $800 mil to go don't count your chickens yet. And if you adjusted for inflation Titanic would have made $2.6 billion.

Average ticket price in US in 1997 $4.59 in 2009 $7.35

If you played a 3D movie in the 1930s I am pretty sure every human on planet earth including people living in tribal villages would have seen this movie.

If you could pirate 3D Avatar, it would be bigger... the more piracy (ie: social chatter) the bigger the movies are, statistically provable and used against the mpaa in court.

It being 3D hasn't made me want to go see it, at that Moms and Daughters, Boyfriends and Girlfriends aren't going to watch it at the theaters 10x times. And even with DOUBLE the ticket prices today and no Piracy to help, Avatar still isn't going to pass Titanic.

Think of that, it's like Avatar has to sell HALF the tickets... it has nothing on Titanic.

It's a bunch of nerds buying into it, the star track dorks... that have the attention span just long enough to last to the next fun toy to call cool.

that asshole..

Right! :thumbsup:thumbsup

Wait what? This goes against logic and common sense(Not a stretch for you). I really hope you're joking. Chances are you aren't but when enough people call you out on it, you'll pretend you were "baiting". Anyways no, the more a movie is pirated, the less it is seen in theaters. This movie was pirated over 900,000 times in 2 days, yet its profits were enormous. In a sense, Cameron completely destroyed piracy for at least, this movie, because everyone is going to see it multiple times in theaters.

Except nobody said people would watch it 10x times in theaters. But definitely twice or three times. And yes, it is going to pass Titanic, provided it continues this course, and it will be even more impressive than Titanic. This isn't supposed to happen in the golden age of piracy.

Titanic and the movies of the 90s were in theaters 6+ months, and didn't have to contend with piracy, think of that.

Remind me to make fun of you for liking (insert movie title here). Too bad you don't have much credibility to go on.

Oh I'm not baiting you... Piracy makes Movies millions and millions of more money, 'net profit income... It has been proven, in courts.. biggest pirated movies, pre-leaked movies, etc... are some of the biggest movies to ever released.

More tickets sold, more movies to sale, more people to buy a mixture of movies, more mixtures being sold, more fans created than ever, more everything... all after 'net piracy took off.

Other than re-stamped and sold as the org product, piracy.. that shit is bad. "Online" Piracy, duplicated content of an Org.. is Marketing and More Exposure. 10's of millions of more people, an extreme amount more fans, millions that never heard of the movie finding it, talking about it, getting more people to buy it...


People always go see movies more than once in theaters, Avatar isn't special because of that. Even bad movies, have people that watch them twice in theaters.


Even if Avatar produces more Money, it will not sell more Tickets than Titanic, and that's how you really know if it did better.

Remember, Avatar costs TWICE what Titanic did... and it's still going to have trouble passing it, IF it passes it.


If Titanic was released today, it would dwarf Avatar, not only because the movie is better but because it could be pirated.


Nope, neither of us have any credibility when it comes to movies...

That's bullshit. I bet the reason why it's so popular is exactly because it can't be pirated.

The movie is popular because it's in 3D and a decent movie, it's not popular simply because it can't be pirated. If you could pirate it, more people would watch it, thus more people would go to the theater to see the better version of it. Exactly like what happens...

Otherwise, movies that didn't get leaked before or well after release, would be more popular than movies pirated months before final cut... which simply isn't the case.

This is where i would ask you to post your proof, but you've never been able to do that. Ergo, this is going to be humorous. Go ahead and prove something that goes against common sense.

Actually, if you look at the figures(and I have), there's been a steady decline in movie sales since the 90s, and that's attributed to both the rise in cost and piracy.

I don't even think a "WTF" does justice to this.


This is simply false, because when adjusted for inflation, the movies of the 00's don't come near the movies of the 90's and before.




Except this is irrelevant. If Avatar banks more $$$ than Titanic, it's more impressive because it did it in the apex of piracy.

Once again. Cheap tickets+no piracy=success. What Cameron did was NOT erase piracy, he just made a movie that is so good to see in theaters that people who download it still go see it in theaters multiple times.




This is so insanely idiotic that I have to believe you're baiting me. This kind of stupidity doesn't happen to people who don't drool for a living.


If Titanic was released today, it would get no real exposure because of piracy.

You can't take him seriously, what he says defies logic. Anyways, it's not because it can't be pirated, it's because it's so much better in theaters that, why pirate it?

Or so boring that after people saw it in 2D, they just had to go to watch it in 3D, because they wanted to know whats the big deal about it, as the story really isn't anything special. Reminds me of the Star Wars movies, which really are dumb, but have one of the biggest fan base. Why they attract all the nerds is beyond me.

You'd also be arguing against ticket sales and reality, which is why I don't take you seriously. It's funny though how a porn pusher has the gaul to criticize "nerds". Move along, let the big boys discuss.

And Titanic was in theaters for 7 1/2 months. Avatar MIGHT be in theaters for 3.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/229545

Completely off-topic, but how do these 3d movies translate on DVD? I know my Bloody Valentine and the last Final Destination movie came with those cheap red and blue glasses. Any good?

Well before you actually started to be active on this forum, we discussed and have argued over many court documents, records, reports and statistics related to piracy. I'm not spending hours pouring over the years of posts that covered this to simply have you argue them.

The MPAA in court records, more than once, has admitted that they can show no proof of any type, that piracy has damaged the Industry at ALL... AND they can not explain why the Industry has grown when piracy has grown as well - and yet it damages them.


First, the movie industry has gone up and down (not always up) from day one.. Second, from the mid 90's to the mid 00's, the movie industry has VERY MUCH grown. In the 00's it hit it's peak and in 09 it broke all records.

By looking at the charts, you could say Piracy made it explode...


It is how piracy works... sorry that you don't understand it.


They are like 5x larger than the 80's and 'almost' doubled from the 90's.. nothing but growth for both the music and movie industries over the last 20 years.


If this movie can't be pirated and Titanic wasn't pirated, they are equal. The "amount" of money makes no difference then, it's the amount of tickets sold.

When Avatar sells more tickets in the same time frame, then it can claim leadership. But that hasn't happened and it wont.


People are not going to see Avatar for the plot.... they are ONLY going to see it for the 3D and Graphics.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Well then, if you're not going to spend the "hours", then forgive me if I take your "evidence" as bullshit. You should know not to post something when you can't back it up (your skill in this is incredible).

Prove up or move on. And if you have shown us anything with this particular post, it's that you want us to believe there is ANY correlation or causation, if what you're saying is even accurate.




[quoteFirst, the movie industry has gone up and down (not always up) from day one.. Second, from the mid 90's to the mid 00's, the movie industry has VERY MUCH grown. In the 00's it hit it's peak and in 09 it broke all records.[/quote]
Really? After you adjust for inflation? Spare me. Moving on.

What the hell does one have to do with the other? Do you have any deductive reasoning skills? That's like me saying your stupidity contributed to the increasing rate of homosexuality in America.




Right, because you've shown to really understand it. What with your arguing against logic, reality, and common sense.




Apparently you have no idea how to differentiate between real growth and inflated growth.




Nobody said this movie can't be pirated. As usual, you have missed the entire point. I'll try to dumb it down for you. Avatar IS pirated. Avatar came out during the apex of piracy, yet Avatar is making a fortune. Had Titanic been pirated, it wouldn't have done nearly as well.

Which is irrelevant.




You'd have to proof this bullshit assertion but nobody will be holding their breath.

Why don't you look it up and prove me wrong?

You said you looked at the proof, why don't you post it and prove me wrong again?


Nope, straight up... the movie industry grew.


Can't read? Piracy HELPS the Movie industry grow..


Common sense on this is really simple... if millions of more people are viewing a movie through piracy, more people will end up buying than the piracy stopped from buying it.

It's not like less people go to movie openings because a pre-release of a movie was pirated out months before release.


How about net profit growth? That's the ONLY growth I understand.



You can't pirate the 3D and this is why people are watching it in theaters. If this movie wasn't in 3D it would have NEVER done what it did.

IE: Why it's not showing up on the piracy download charts.


So are you saying people return to watch Avatar for the plot? HAHAHAHA

Avatar wouldn't be shit if it wasn't in 3D.. and when it drops from the theaters, it will fall like a rock in water.

Wait a second...You claim something, don't post proof, and then ask ME to find proof that disproves your..."proof"? Oh this is priceless. There's no doubt in my mind that you wouldn't be competent enough to stand trial if you ever had to.



You claim they don't, prove up or continue embarrassing yourself.

Says the one who is borderline retarded. Prove me wrong ROFL

:upsidedow

I'm surprised The Demon doesn't find the movie offensive because of its liberal propaganda.

When a movie is that DAMN GOOD, the propaganda is meaningless. So if Cameron wanted to insinuate something, he failed miserably through the pwnage of his blockbuster movie.

Something is even funnier than that. A non-porn pusher, thinking of himself he is something better, coming to an adult board, because thats the only way to be within some comunnity, as you obviously are a pathetic loser with no friends and this is the only place where some people actually "listen" to you.

An antisocial porn pusher telling someone else he has no friends. Hilarious


Btw, someone who thinks he's better than others is the stupid porn pusher who refers to others as "nerds", and refuses to go outside unless he absolutely has to:)

It was epic. I loved it. I think it was a little too long, but then again I think that about all movies nowadays. An hour and a half should be enough to tell any tale on the silver screen.

They are nerds and it doesn't matter if I think so or not. Adults dressing like actors from Star Wars are nerds, period.

this pretty much sums it up. But it is a pleasant movie to watch. I liked it much more than "2012"

Still have to see it.Too much talk about it so I'm gonna wait for a while.

And grown men with no real career options other than designing nude galleries are retards.

wow jesus it will hit 2 billions easy:mad: