Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732087)

People who shoot Gonzo are lazy looking for fast easy money.

Originally Posted by GetNaughty (Post 16732091)

I think you are correct however, some niches are still gold... amateur for example.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732114)

I am sorry Robert, I know what sells, amateur is over as well. GF, self shot does not convert
in the real DVD market.

I commented in another thread about a guy who asked about having real super hot twins who would do hardcore hint hint. We need very high quality story lines, some that sets the viewer up to desire to watch thew film.

Most people who shoot Gonzo are not photographers or pornographers, they will not ever be hired in real film situations. Gonzo is the easiest form of porn produced.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732114)

I am sorry Robert, I know what sells, amateur is over as well. GF, self shot does not convert in the real DVD market.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732126)

Then stop wining about your sales being down, plus the tubes are stealing all of your products

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16732124)

Personally, I don't give a shit about the DVD market and neither do most of the people on GFY. :2 cents:

Amateur, GF, self shot is FAR from over on the Internet.

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16732115)

whats wrong with a fast buck?

Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 16732144)

If someone paid me to shot whatver style they want, they got it. I've hired crews to build sets for whatever story line they want. You want gonzo or a vignette, I'll shoot it. But most companies are cheap and what it done cheap. I don't complain about tubes or stolen content. I've already been paid for my work and I don't get residuals so I could care less. I keep getting hired to shoot it.

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16732167)

I guess that about says it all......lmaorof:error:error:error:error

Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 16732176)

I agree with alot of what you say and disagree with most of what you say. Within the DVD market you may be right, however even DVD sales have went more towards on demand, or downloadable there for removing those numbers from real DVD sales from stores. Internet, even tho there is theft, is the highest earning part of all adult sales. Nearly every dvd is either broken up on someones website, or being sold on demand. To top that off, major cities in America are drastically cutting down and evicting DVD store locations. If you have went to a Castle Boutique or any other major 90s adult stores they do not look they way they used to, they dont have any real traffic... The internet does.

As for your comment of being a multi-billionaire, I would have believed millionaire but are you fucking kidding me, your going to claim to be a multi-billionaire in the porn industry as a distributor? That makes 0 sense, i do not believe it, Im calling you on your BS! I actually know a few multi-millionaires that own websites and refuse to touch DVDs as it costs more to make them then you make off them. But then again I know a few millionaires who still keep there DVDs, i personally think its just a marketing tactic as most of them still make atleast 75% of there income off web sales.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732177)

You are absolutely right. It says it all.

So if you want to continue to shoot content that will sell for three months, and then become a small thumbnail in the next 6 months and no longer sell, so be it.
To each their own.

Will the real pornographers please stand up.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732162)

Well said....

However, it is time to make products that make millions, not a few thousand.
Most of you so far have looked at the smaller picture here defending lazy work
GF, self shot crap. That proves just how lazy you are. You want someone else to shoot him or herself while you make few bucks on it.

Us corporate icons think for the bigger picture, I came in here hoping to find those smart enough to understand what I am looking for. But so far it is what is what it is GFY.

Here is my last final hint.... Ever heard of the Film series Taboo? Another mention thread was about twins... We are talking multi million dollar block buster if done right.
It's time to think about the bigger picture and make a product that will create major controversy and generates sales for the next ten years.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732179)

Hello Bobbi

Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 16732183)

You talk about how film sales skyrockted back in the day. but at the time there was less revenue streams to make your money from. Now there are so many streams you need to not only tap them but also make sure your content is not stolen thus letting someone else make a profit from it. the mafia made tons of money in bootlegging porn in NYC for years (they probably still are)

You will always need new faces for porn. Otherwise people would be jerking off to the same stuff from the 1970's.

You also need good locations. You know how many times I see a scene and it's either Ben Iny's house or an 818 location house. People get tried of that stuff.

Then you need to have good equipment and know how to use it. Just b/c you have the best hd camera and every kinoflo they make won't make you a good shooting. I know guys who use decent cameras and natural light and make shit that only blows away most people's work it even wins "awards" (lol)

And like you said, you want there to be a reason to watch it. People do want something that ties it together and makes it magical. The guy knocking on the door with the pizza is a bit played out.

But with out funding it's tough to do all of this. Not many people want to invest in porn and the ones who do are let down when they don't get the ROI they were fooled in thinking they would see in less than 12 months.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732184)

ok, porn is only a small part of what I do.... Wow shallow minds end shallow results.
Porn is only a quarter of my income.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16732198)

Oh my bad. ONLY 250 million dollars of your income is porn. That makes it understandable. Come on man...

Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 16732195)

I love how when i post everyone just assumes its my husband... Just because im a model means I obviously have no brain or opinion... Who ever you are you atleast know my husbands name so I REALLY doubt your a billionaire of ANY KIND. I have never had teh pleasures of meeting, knowing or dealing with a billionaire yet. Think the richest person I have met is around 200 million at the moment.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732209)

I have met you, you just don't know who I am. We met in California and in which Bobbi made himself look like a jack as trying to tell us how we should do things. I told to not try and re invent the wheel.

.....I am done here for the day.. I will come back and look for those who want to shoot a real porn film, in which I will fund.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732196)

HD cams and Kino flo are not what real film makers use.... HD cams yes, with real focused lighting. Grids, spots, ect.. mixed with natural light.

I will fund the project.. so again you all know everything and to smart to see what I am offering. Who I am is not important, IVD is a small company in comparison to who I am and what I do in the real world. Lets just say Microsoft and ADOBE make me very rich.....

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732184)

ok, porn is only a small part of what I do.... Wow shallow minds end shallow results.
Porn is only a quarter of my income.

Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 16732203)

No he said he was a multi-billionaire... That means he would have to have multiple billions of dollars... I want proof, hell show me proof of that kind of income and i will suck your dick just to say I sucked off one of the richest men in america

Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 16732195)

I love how when i post everyone just assumes its my husband... Just because im a model means I obviously have no brain or opinion... Who ever you are you atleast know my husbands name so I REALLY doubt your a billionaire of ANY KIND. I have never had teh pleasures of meeting, knowing or dealing with a billionaire yet. Think the richest person I have met is around 200 million at the moment.

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 16732215)

I consider myself a real pornograher. I have filmed many feature adult movies for DVD & broadcast tv over the years that played on Playboy tv and Spice Channel and elsewhere as well as thousands of scenes for adult internet sites. I agree that a quality product can make a big difference. I would always welcome new opportunities to film a quality product with a storyline if I was provided the budget to pull it off.

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16732218)

Ya know....Your "know it all" and "better than thou" attitude really suck. It doesn't matter how much knowledge you have if you act like a prick, few people will listen.

You come here acting as if we should all know you and listen to what you have to say but in reality, just like Robbie posted, most of us have no clue who you are....Not that it really matters as I'm going to make my money anyway.

"I'm a billionaire, I'm an industry icon, I know all about what sells and what doesn't...."

Tell us again how much better you are than the rest of us. That's a sure fire way to earn respect, loyalty, and business.

"Porn is only a quarter of my income."

If porn is only a quarter of you income then I would say you don't qualify as a "real pornographer" yourself.

I don't know...Maybe my shallow little mind just can't absorb your wealth of knowledge.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732196)

Who I am is not important.....

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732184)

ok, porn is only a small part of what I do.... Wow shallow minds end shallow results.
Porn is only a quarter of my income.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732226)

Show me your best your to date.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732219)

I have a property in Washington, but I am not in America. Again your arrogance overwhelms you, vastly.

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16732232)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Who you are is the single most important thing to anybody who is serious about their business. No way in hell I would EVER consider doing business with somebody who thinks that their identity doesn't matter to me. That is how people get fucked over. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732243)

Did I not say.. That I will fund the projects? You do not read well, it is no wonder you get fucked over.

That means when I approve of the project, I will create a corporate account with funds available for all expenses, talent, equipment, flights, hotel, locations and so forth.
For those who do not understand English, that means money up front.

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16732241)

show us yours....
I tell ya, this guy is a customer getting his jollies.....

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16732224)

It could have something to do with the fact that your husband has posted under your name and specifically stated that he is the one who posts as you.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732243)

Did I not say.. That I will fund the projects? You do not read well, it is no wonder you get fucked over.

That means when I approve of the project, I will create a corporate account with funds available for all expenses, talent, equipment, flights, hotel, locations and so forth.
For those who do not understand English, that means money up front.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732243)

Did I not say.. That I will fund the projects? You do not read well, it is no wonder you get fucked over.

That means when I approve of the project, I will create a corporate account with funds available for all expenses, talent, equipment, flights, hotel, locations and so forth.
For those who do not understand English, that means money up front.

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732249)

Jim Gunn is on the good list...