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mmcfadden 01-30-2010 12:01 PM

have you seen a decline in sales? do you want to know why?
 
I have spent more hours answering this question then I want to admit.

But if you are having a problem speak now and I will answer it.

LeCoq 01-30-2010 12:08 PM

Please don't tell me it has anything to do with the insane amount of free porn available out there.

BillyHoe 01-30-2010 12:09 PM

I've noticed a slight decline Mid week but picked up again Thursday night and yesterday.
What do you think the issue is?

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyHoe (Post 16798253)
I've noticed a slight decline Mid week but picked up again Thursday night and yesterday.
What do you think the issue is?

My issue is I gave a price on my site, 29.95, regional billing fucked that hardcore.

I also had security issues with my UM and still don't understand exactly the problem except my host told me it was an issue so I got rid of it.

I also have a few other suspicions and want others to post prior

michael.kickass 01-30-2010 12:17 PM

Not really, sales have been similar to the past year

Barefootsies 01-30-2010 12:28 PM

Jan has been a odd month in both traffic and memberships.

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16798313)
Jan has been a odd month in both traffic and memberships.

I have had more traffic then ever the past 2 weeks.

Everybody should listen to this statement...
Get rid of regional billing... It is hurting your sales big time

BillyHoe 01-30-2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798274)
My issue is I gave a price on my site, 29.95, regional billing fucked that hardcore.

I also had security issues with my UM and still don't understand exactly the problem except my host told me it was an issue so I got rid of it.

I also have a few other suspicions and want others to post prior

I don't use regional billing. I found it hurt my sales alot. I still find the odd site CCBill messed up on but you can hard-code the USD (or whatever currency you want) in your join page, to avoid it.
For your security issue have you host only allow CCBill's IP to access the script and you should be fine.
Hit me up on ICQ if you want and you can share your suspicions. I have a few suspicions to why sales jump up and down sometimes as-well.

BillyHoe 01-30-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798331)
I have had more traffic then ever the past 2 weeks.

Everybody should listen to this statement...
Get rid of regional billing... It is hurting your sales big time

Yup I agree 100%. I believe you should leave the price in USD and let the surfer choose to switch if they want.

lagcam 01-30-2010 12:43 PM

Regional billing is classic short term thinking that was always going to fuck customers off when they realised they were paying more than somebody else for the same service.

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyHoe (Post 16798333)
I don't use regional billing. I found it hurt my sales alot. I still find the odd site CCBill messed up on but you can hard-code the USD (or whatever currency you want) in your join page, to avoid it.
For your security issue have you host only allow CCBill's IP to access the script and you should be fine.
Hit me up on ICQ if you want and you can share your suspicions. I have a few suspicions to why sales jump up and down sometimes as-well.

My home computer with icq blew up a couple days ago.

My email is mmcfadden at vstrippoker dot com

I use ccbill and am trouble shooting problems now. I have been doing so for 3 weeks now and I am at a point whete I will rip the head off anybody who pisses me off

Zester 01-30-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeCoq (Post 16798252)
Please don't tell me it has anything to do with the insane amount of free porn available out there.

what he said.......

chupachups 01-30-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798244)
I have spent more hours answering this question then I want to admit.

But if you are having a problem speak now and I will answer it.

I believe GUBA and SWOIT are to blame, do you agree?

BillyHoe 01-30-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798394)
My home computer with icq blew up a couple days ago.

My email is mmcfadden at vstrippoker dot com

I use ccbill and am trouble shooting problems now. I have been doing so for 3 weeks now and I am at a point whete I will rip the head off anybody who pisses me off

I know the feeling. I've been there before. I'm running in and out today but drop me a line at gfy|at|sexserver.com with what you're frustrated with and I might be able to point you in the right direction. Sometimes a fresh set of eyes helps alot. :)

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chupachups (Post 16798426)
I believe GUBA and SWOIT are to blame, do you agree?

I believe the problem in ccbill billing lies mostly in regional billing

I have no idea what guba and the other abb. You mentioned. Maybe it does, can you explain?

andrej_NDC 01-30-2010 02:04 PM

Regional billing never affected my sales in any way. Sales were the same, income higher.

andrej_NDC 01-30-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 16798349)
Regional billing is classic short term thinking that was always going to fuck customers off when they realised they were paying more than somebody else for the same service.

Where do I ask for my money, if I paid twice as much for a car in EU compared to the US? Same car.

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16798556)
Regional billing never affected my sales in any way. Sales were the same, income higher.

I am spilling my findings... At firdt back in the middle of 09 regional billing was profitable.

What I havbe found is that it is now hindering sales

SomeCreep 01-30-2010 02:20 PM

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mmcfadden 01-30-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 16798581)
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Overload 01-30-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 16798349)
Regional billing is classic short term thinking that was always going to fuck customers off when they realised they were paying more than somebody else for the same service.

ca-ching! right to the money ... way back when some*P*gonzo switched to bill euro surfers a whopping ?39,95 (almost $60) i switched to dropping their promos instantly after seeing sales go to hell :2 cents:

RegUser 01-30-2010 03:27 PM

I have had regional billing for past year now and NO, I did not notice any decline in sales till past few days.
I suspect crackdown by mcard/visa/banks has something to do with it and that has swept ccbill off its feet.
Tubes.....well I doubt if anyone will be paying for porn in next 12-24 months. The industry is finished.

bns666 01-30-2010 04:13 PM

weird month here too...

it could always be better...

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 16798638)
I have had regional billing for past year now and NO, I did not notice any decline in sales till past few days.
I suspect crackdown by mcard/visa/banks has something to do with it and that has swept ccbill off its feet.
Tubes.....well I doubt if anyone will be paying for porn in next 12-24 months. The industry is finished.

Everybody hates tubes. But this is not a tube problem.

I don't even remember where I left off and where to continue...

Oh yeah... I had regional billing turned on since it started, I am now saying that it is killing sales

notime 01-30-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798331)
I have had more traffic then ever the past 2 weeks.

Everybody should listen to this statement...
Get rid of regional billing... It is hurting your sales big time

Define regional billing / billing companies here.
I only use specific local billing companies in each country and cc processors only as second
and I don't see any problems so far.

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 16798746)
Define regional billing / billing companies here.
I only use specific local billing companies in each country and cc processors only as second
and I don't see any problems so far.

My definition is:

Ccbills way of charging

So in short... Ccbill regional billing

notime 01-30-2010 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798765)
My definition is:

Ccbills way of charging

So in short... Ccbill regional billing

I do not use ccbill myself since my VOD site in only in Holland/Belgium where people do not use CC so much, so I guess I don't have answers here for you.

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 16798780)
I do not use ccbill myself since my VOD site in only in Holland/Belgium where people do not use CC so much, so I guess I don't have answers here for you.

I have the answers.

Do I need to pop up on your screen as god?

topnotch, standup guy 01-30-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798331)
Everybody should listen to this statement...
Get rid of regional billing... It is hurting your sales big time

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I mean, other ideas besides that one?

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 16798829)
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Any other ideas?

I mean, other ideas besides that one?

Do you mean that and spanking da monkey?

I would have to get intimate with your cause but my 2morrow gf may be down to decipher

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 06:18 PM

I feel like an asshole for not telling yall why sales have sucked.

Regiional. Billing is the main reason

Noticed a sharp increase in sales and then a drop shortly after? Like a throttle just got choked?

XPays 01-30-2010 06:33 PM

our sales are up tremendously thanks to our invite only domain parking

BV 01-30-2010 06:41 PM

People, please don't get "Regional Billing" & "Global Forms" mixed up.

There is nothing wrong with displaying Euro customers your price in Euros (as long as it equals your USA customer price) This is what standard "Global Forms" does.

When you display your price in Euros (and the Euro price exchange rate value equals more that your USA USD customer price) this is "Regional Billing" and what mmcfadden is referring to.

This has to be "opted in" by the sponsor.

"Global Forms" is pretty common and most all ccbill sponsors use these. (and should)

(These are the flags at the top of the signup form.)

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays (Post 16798876)
our sales are up tremendously thanks to our invite only domain parking

I have no idea what that means.

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 16798890)
People, please don't get "Regional Billing" & "Global Forms" mixed up.

There is nothing wrong with displaying Euro customers your price in Euros (as long as it equals your USA customer price) This is what standard "Global Forms" does.

When you display your price in Euros (and the Euro price exchange rate value equals more that your USA USD customer price) this is "Regional Billing" and what mmcfadden is referring to.

This has to be "opted in" by the sponsor.

"Global Forms" is pretty common and most all ccbill sponsors use these. (and should)

(These are the flags at the top of the signup form.)

I want to say something witty but my words have run dry

BV 01-30-2010 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798912)
I want to say something witty but my words have run dry

spit it out :thumbsup

XPays 01-30-2010 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798894)
I have no idea what that means.

we diversified with new pages designed to convert in today's market & the market has responded with more commerce. this was after a seeing a decline in months prior to now.

mmcfadden 01-30-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays (Post 16798938)
we diversified with new pages designed to convert in today's market & the market has responded with more commerce. this was after a seeing a decline in months prior to now.

Well shit junior. Ya couldn't have said that to start?

I am talking up to a 75 percent decrease in sales, not a percent that you may gety paid for every day

lagcam 01-30-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16798559)
Where do I ask for my money, if I paid twice as much for a car in EU compared to the US? Same car.

If you think that is the same you are an idiot.

lagcam 01-30-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 16798890)
People, please don't get "Regional Billing" & "Global Forms" mixed up.

There is nothing wrong with displaying Euro customers your price in Euros (as long as it equals your USA customer price) This is what standard "Global Forms" does.

When you display your price in Euros (and the Euro price exchange rate value equals more that your USA USD customer price) this is "Regional Billing" and what mmcfadden is referring to.

This has to be "opted in" by the sponsor.

"Global Forms" is pretty common and most all ccbill sponsors use these. (and should)

(These are the flags at the top of the signup form.)

Yes you have a great point here. I think some people may be confusing the issue.

The problem is CCBILL'S REGIONAL BILLING where a US customer is charged $29.95 and an EU customer is charged 29.95 EUROS. The normal join forms that convert the $29.95 into the EQUIVALENT Euros for an EU customer are great.

CPimp 01-30-2010 08:28 PM

I am sorry to hear that regional billing has caused you the decline in sales. mmcfadden. At least you figured that part of it out and things are doing way better again for you now!

HomerSimpson 01-30-2010 08:33 PM

blame it on tubes

xenigo 01-30-2010 10:47 PM

I guess you're looking for a solution. How about turning off regional billing, and see if that fixes your issue? Seems the solution and the problem are rather obvious. I don't know where the controvercy is here.

andrej_NDC 01-31-2010 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 16799079)
If you think that is the same you are an idiot.

It is the same and you are the idiot here, go read about demand and supply, thats what creates the price, not the actual value of the product.

andrej_NDC 01-31-2010 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16798994)
Well shit junior. Ya couldn't have said that to start?

I am talking up to a 75 percent decrease in sales, not a percent that you may gety paid for every day

lol US sales are around 70%, 30% Europe and rest of the world. So regional pricing also lowered your US sales? What kind of math are pulling here. Regional stats don't change sales at all, but of course you can't tell with 0-5 sales per day, if you have 50 sales, come back making stats.

Naechy 01-31-2010 02:43 PM

Ah that sales


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