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The Porn Nerd 02-14-2010 06:24 PM

If You Needed a 2-3 Page Paysite Tour Designed, Who Would YOU Hire?
 
I'm looking to spread some cash around. I have a shitload of traffic coming in to my Network of paysites but my conversion rates (for some sites, not others) have taken a fucking nosedive lately. So I want some of my older, less-performing sites re-designed. BUDGET: $400-$500. I'm looking for clean, simple designs without a ton of bells-and-whistles so they can easily "fit in" my existing network.

Of course I want, need, must have, expect, pray, hope, dream that this newly-designed Tour will CONVERT at a higher rate than the sites I'm talking about (otherwise I could leave my shit-producing sites up then, couldn't I? LOL). A Goal of 5+ signups daily is what we're shooting for, based on 5,000+ uniques. Unreasonable? Maybe, for now, but we're growing....

So: 2-3 pages, consisting of a main Tour page, a Join page and possibly a new Splash. All graphics provided tho new banners should be made & incorporated into the new design. Looking for a relatively quick turnaround as it's only 2-3 pages (two weeks or under, app).

Any takers? Please list some actual examples of Tours you've designed that you are certain are producing/converting at a high rate. Thanks!!!

BAKO 02-14-2010 06:25 PM

i would go with www.adultdesign.com the best :)

Deej 02-14-2010 06:25 PM

Im obviously biased...

Amputate Your Head 02-14-2010 06:27 PM

I'm the best adult designer there is. (no offense to the other designers.... )

Unfortunately, there is no amount of money that will make a deal happen between us right now. I'll be ready for work-for-hire again in approx. 1 year.

The Porn Nerd 02-14-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 16850092)
i would go with www.adultdesign.com the best :)

AMAZING designs, fantastic company, thank you!! But I'm not looking to drop 3-4 grand on a design for an old 'dead' site. LOL Thanks tho!

JD 02-14-2010 06:31 PM

i'd totally recommend me :) http://www.monstersofblog.com/?page_id=19

The Porn Nerd 02-14-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 16850100)
I'm the best adult designer there is. (no offense to the other designers.... )

Unfortunately, there is no amount of money that will make a deal happen between us right now. I'll be ready for work-for-hire again in approx. 1 year.

That's perfect, you're hired! Because that's what I gots: no amount of money. LOL Kidding - thanks tho!! (And hope whatever you got goin' on for the next year pays off BIG time for ya!)

JD 02-14-2010 06:33 PM

btw, i guarantee my tours. if conversions don't get better/aren't good I'll re-do the entire thing :)

sextoyking 02-14-2010 06:34 PM

I would recommend www.kreadult.com - Awesome designers and well worth the money you would pay.

Amputate Your Head 02-14-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16850110)
That's perfect, you're hired! Because that's what I gots: no amount of money. LOL Kidding - thanks tho!! (And hope whatever you got goin' on for the next year pays off BIG time for ya!)

Sorry, I know it sounds really REALLY conceited, but I know what I can do and I know what's out there and I know what's available and I know what I'm worth. But I'm taking a year off. It's not going to "pay off" at all. I need to decompress.

My intent is not to embellish... just relaying the facts.

The Porn Nerd 02-14-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 16850132)
Sorry, I know it sounds really REALLY conceited, but I know what I can do and I know what's out there and I know what's available and I know what I'm worth. But I'm taking a year off. It's not going to "pay off" at all. I need to decompress.

My intent is not to embellish... just relaying the facts.

I hear ya brother! I was in no way disregarding your comments. But now I'm JEALOUS man! I'm working my ASS off so I can get to the point where I can take just one month off!!! Good luck with your de-compressing. :)

Jack OAT 02-14-2010 07:22 PM

I don't know Amp's designs but he seems to be one of the few on here who understands that it's about WAY more than just the fancy colors. I really think all the quality developers are already in-house. The large firms just make pretty shit and give ZERO attention to the details like usability.

I could give you an HTML/CSS template that could basically be 'skinned' for each of your sites. It's a cheap way to get the job done, and my layouts highlight your content, and THAT is what will drive conversions.

Jack OAT 02-14-2010 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 16850092)
i would go with www.adultdesign.com the best :)

I would never hire a company to develop a website for me that is using techno music on-load. That is so 1995 and is pretty much rule #1 of what NOT to do.

Barefootsies 02-14-2010 07:26 PM

I would recommend that you invest in switching your pay sites over to a pay site tube business model instead of prettying up the pig so to speak. I think that will help your conversions, if you have some decent content and amount of it, then just flashy tours and design.

But that's just my :2 cents:

Nicky 02-14-2010 07:30 PM

Silver Crocodile

harvey 02-14-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16850090)
I'm looking to spread some cash around. I have a shitload of traffic coming in to my Network of paysites but my conversion rates (for some sites, not others) have taken a fucking nosedive lately. So I want some of my older, less-performing sites re-designed. BUDGET: $400-$500. I'm looking for clean, simple designs without a ton of bells-and-whistles so they can easily "fit in" my existing network.

Of course I want, need, must have, expect, pray, hope, dream that this newly-designed Tour will CONVERT at a higher rate than the sites I'm talking about (otherwise I could leave my shit-producing sites up then, couldn't I? LOL). A Goal of 5+ signups daily is what we're shooting for, based on 5,000+ uniques. Unreasonable? Maybe, for now, but we're growing....

So: 2-3 pages, consisting of a main Tour page, a Join page and possibly a new Splash. All graphics provided tho new banners should be made & incorporated into the new design. Looking for a relatively quick turnaround as it's only 2-3 pages (two weeks or under, app).

Any takers? Please list some actual examples of Tours you've designed that you are certain are producing/converting at a high rate. Thanks!!!

5+ signups on 5000+ UV isn't unreasonable at all. Even at these times. Is it hard? Yes. Most sites are converting 1:2000 and up on average (yeah yeah I know, there are exceptions) and of course those 5000+ UV could be 5000+ chinese visitors, or 5000+ tube visitors, or blind links or whatever. But for US/euro clicked traffic it's not an unrealistic goal at all.

What I see as the main problem here is that you want to invest the money you expect to make in 3 days. Maybe that's why your sales are in a low, think about it, you want to pay amateur money for professional results. And the sad part is that you have content good enough to make way more than 5 sales, but you'll need to re-think your business model IMHO :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 02-14-2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16850203)
I would recommend that you invest in switching your pay sites over to a pay site tube business model instead of prettying up the pig so to speak. I think that will help your conversions, if you have some decent content and amount of it, then just flashy tours and design.

But that's just my :2 cents:

I've considered that, actually. The 'Mister Peabody brand", so to speak, could be pasted on cams, tubes, etc etc. But i don't have endless content, just unique stuff.

And yes, putting lipstick on the pig is exactly what I want to do. LOL If sales double I'd be happy, tho the 'pig' factor is more in the designs themselves, not necassarily the basic content. Presentation can get you a long way, as you well know. :)

shimmy2 02-14-2010 10:14 PM

i recc. mudpixel in the phillipines, good artwork great prices espec if u need toons done

The Porn Nerd 02-14-2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 16850294)
5+ signups on 5000+ UV isn't unreasonable at all. Even at these times. Is it hard? Yes. Most sites are converting 1:2000 and up on average (yeah yeah I know, there are exceptions) and of course those 5000+ UV could be 5000+ chinese visitors, or 5000+ tube visitors, or blind links or whatever. But for US/euro clicked traffic it's not an unrealistic goal at all.

What I see as the main problem here is that you want to invest the money you expect to make in 3 days. Maybe that's why your sales are in a low, think about it, you want to pay amateur money for professional results. And the sad part is that you have content good enough to make way more than 5 sales, but you'll need to re-think your business model IMHO :2 cents:

Well thank you, and I agree, to some extent. But the sites in my network that DO convert make 10 - 30 sales daily. That is, one or two do ten, a couple do fifteen, one does twenty, etc. THOSE sites are not to be touched. LOL It's the sites that are 'dead' - no new content anymore, or ever to come, with the same design from 2005 I'm talking about. So I figure, spend the $400 or so now, and if sales double then it pays for itself in x # of months. If it does not pay for itself then I know that my designs do what they do compared to 'professionally-designed' sites.

True, I'm sure if I spent $3,000 to have it designed it would look....like every other 'pretty' site out there. I have two friends in this business who did that and their sales never really went up. Four hundred I can gamble with (because I think some of the girls/content is still hot) than roll 3 G's.

Hope that makes sense. LOL One's business model is often fine-tuned to one's circumstances, as it were.

The Porn Nerd 02-14-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 16850398)
i recc. mudpixel in the phillipines, good artwork great prices espec if u need toons done

Thanks for the tip - will check him out!

mudsaliva 02-14-2010 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 16850398)
i recc. mudpixel in the phillipines, good artwork great prices espec if u need toons done

Thanks man! 'Appreciate the recommendations as always :thumbsup

Email replied and added you on icq Mark :)

harvey 02-14-2010 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16850404)
Well thank you, and I agree, to some extent. But the sites in my network that DO convert make 10 - 30 sales daily. That is, one or two do ten, a couple do fifteen, one does twenty, etc. THOSE sites are not to be touched. LOL It's the sites that are 'dead' - no new content anymore, or ever to come, with the same design from 2005 I'm talking about. So I figure, spend the $400 or so now, and if sales double then it pays for itself in x # of months. If it does not pay for itself then I know that my designs do what they do compared to 'professionally-designed' sites.

True, I'm sure if I spent $3,000 to have it designed it would look....like every other 'pretty' site out there. I have two friends in this business who did that and their sales never really went up. Four hundred I can gamble with (because I think some of the girls/content is still hot) than roll 3 G's.

Hope that makes sense. LOL One's business model is often fine-tuned to one's circumstances, as it were.

yes it makes sense. Furthermore, I wasn't even referring to "make it look pretty". To me, a professional design is about giving to the site what the site needs. See I didn't even offer my services, because I'm not able to do the kind of designs you have, and I think they would work better if they keep a consistence throughout your network. Plus, I figured you were talking about sites that were left out and probably have little to no upside, so I would never promise a result over that. I was referring in general, and no necessarily about you. If it was me, I'd keep them as they are in terms of design. But in terms of business model there are quite a bunch of alternatives you can do, and that's a very different story :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 02-14-2010 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 16850463)
yes it makes sense. Furthermore, I wasn't even referring to "make it look pretty". To me, a professional design is about giving to the site what the site needs. See I didn't even offer my services, because I'm not able to do the kind of designs you have, and I think they would work better if they keep a consistence throughout your network. Plus, I figured you were talking about sites that were left out and probably have little to no upside, so I would never promise a result over that. I was referring in general, and no necessarily about you. If it was me, I'd keep them as they are in terms of design. But in terms of business model there are quite a bunch of alternatives you can do, and that's a very different story :2 cents:

Of that you are absolutely right (other business models)!! II just got into this side of the business because I shot a lot of content as Mister Peabody. LOL So I started a paysite, then another, and another...

But yeah, I basically want to see if a new design would bump sales for sites that have hardly any, so understanding it's a gamble going in there's never going to be any accussations to the poor designers I pick. LOL If I can't make 'em sell and they can, awesome. if I can't and THEY can't, well...no foul. :)

Barefootsies 02-15-2010 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16850395)
I've considered that, actually. The 'Mister Peabody brand", so to speak, could be pasted on cams, tubes, etc etc. But i don't have endless content, just unique stuff.

And yes, putting lipstick on the pig is exactly what I want to do. LOL If sales double I'd be happy, tho the 'pig' factor is more in the designs themselves, not necassarily the basic content. Presentation can get you a long way, as you well know. :)

Ah. I see what you are saying.

I was simply suggesting if you are going to make the investment, then look at bumping up the entire site switching the cms and design. Not just the lipstick.

However, to pull off a tube pay site. You have to have a decent amount of content AND you have to do updates often. Which is something not everyone can pull off. Even with good niche content.

Bman 02-15-2010 12:41 AM

Which ones convert well right now?
Why not hire the guy that did that one?

JD says he guarantees his designs... can't hurt?

Grisey 02-15-2010 01:48 AM

http://www.curvology.com/ we only use her for our designs

XPays 02-15-2010 02:14 AM

at that price, go with JD for sure

Altwebdesign 02-15-2010 04:07 AM

im interested
www.adultwebdesignuk.com

http://www.adultwebdesignuk.com/kadalove/
http://www.adultwebdesignuk.com/mariahmilano/

RadicalSights 02-15-2010 04:16 AM

I would hire myself. But I am kinda busy right now so go hire someone else. ;]

RadicalSights 02-15-2010 04:28 AM

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i would go with www.adultdesign.com the best
:Oh crap

http://www.adultdesign.com/portfolio...ollydolly.com/
http://www.adultdesign.com/portfolio...ngelemily.com/
http://www.adultdesign.com/portfolio...landlilly.com/
http://www.adultdesign.com/portfolio...ellamodel.com/

This is some of the worst quality work I have ever seen.

3 grand? :Oh crap

JimmiDean 02-15-2010 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD (Post 16850112)
btw, i guarantee my tours. if conversions don't get better/aren't good I'll re-do the entire thing :)

Can't go wrong with JD, on time on budget and always there is needed.:thumbsup

BIGTYMER 02-15-2010 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 16850702)

Those are way too busy...

gimme-website 02-15-2010 05:41 AM

siggie burp

Raf1 02-15-2010 05:53 AM

I would suggest other companies but the budget would have to be bigger. However from what's been posted here, I think you'll find the right person for the job

The Porn Nerd 02-15-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bman (Post 16850519)
Which ones convert well right now?
Why not hire the guy that did that one?

JD says he guarantees his designs... can't hurt?

LOL Because I'M the guy that designed everything you see on my network. I tried re-designing the 'crappy old sites' (2-3 years old+) into the style that converts well and....nadad. LOL So now I'm trying something differant - but if the new designs don't sell then it IS the content and I can stop worrying about it. :)

The Porn Nerd 02-15-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD (Post 16850112)
btw, i guarantee my tours. if conversions don't get better/aren't good I'll re-do the entire thing :)

Hi JD!! Sorry i didn't get back to you, LATE night last night. Let's discuss?

ICQ: 579915163

Jey p 02-15-2010 10:28 AM

if you are still check out our portfolio www.idsadult.com
:thumbsup:thumbsup

yuu.design 02-15-2010 10:37 AM

Hi doode, check my portfolio ;) .. www.studiosporno.com

Ace_luffy 02-15-2010 11:14 AM

www.creationcrew.com

if still needed :) :) :)

thanks

candyflip 02-15-2010 11:21 AM

There's only one name I'd even consider. Headless.

http://www.notanotherdesigner.com

Lord Voldemort 02-15-2010 11:45 AM

I'd hire Czarina for design, Woj for PHP

The Porn Nerd 02-15-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Voldemort (Post 16851639)
I'd hire Czarina for design, Woj for PHP

Woj is already on the case (he's great!!)! Czarina's designs kick-ass but beyond my current budget. Thanks tho!

The Porn Nerd 02-15-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16851575)
There's only one name I'd even consider. Headless.

http://www.notanotherdesigner.com

Welll, Headless seems to have lost his Head because the link has expired. LOL

arock10 02-15-2010 12:38 PM

good luck there

JD 02-15-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16851230)
Hi JD!! Sorry i didn't get back to you, LATE night last night. Let's discuss?

ICQ: 579915163

sent you an icq ;)

czarina 02-15-2010 01:46 PM

MisterPeabody: thanks for considering me :) If you have a small budget for your next project, I'll still be interested in giving you a competitive quote.

Bman 02-15-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16851214)
LOL Because I'M the guy that designed everything you see on my network.

Well then fire that guy then ;)

harvey 02-15-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 16850702)

you forgot to show the good quality ones, but.... who's counting? Either way, absolutely tasteless on your side. Even worse: let's say your designs are 1000x better. Yet they can charge 3k. Hint hint :2 cents:

JD 02-15-2010 02:58 PM

dropped my cell# in your icq running out for a bit ;)

The Porn Nerd 02-15-2010 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD (Post 16852292)
dropped my cell# in your icq running out for a bit ;)

Sorry man, I was here but my ICQ suddenly decided to stop alerting me to incoming messages so i didn't see the little squinting icon. LOL I'm around. :)


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