The Future of Adult Content Delivery
 

I originally tried to shop this idea around about 8 months ago and nobody from any major networks seemed interested in getting back to me... I'm not sure if it's because my background lies in mainstream or what the problem is but that's another post entirely :P

The future of content delivery is IPTV (a generic term but I'll expound)... people don't CHOOSE to consume porn on their computers. They do so because of convenience and the sheer volume of options available to them.

The next step in content delivery is being able to get your pay site up to allow for members to stream content via an IPTV app. There are many variations and options out there for delivery methods and I've seen a few press releases from companies using dedicated hardware. The dedicated hardware route is NOT what you want. Being pigeon holed into one specific piece of hardware that a consumer must purchase is NOT the way to go.

The most interesting press release I've seen as of late is Reality Kings using BoXXXee... while I haven't checked out BoXXXee, it's parent Boxee is one of the most widely used apps and in my professional opinion will be the largest player in the game. Say what you will about the folks behind Reality Kings but you can't say they're not progressive. These guys are always pushing hard (even if much of it is gray area)...

Regardless, Boxee is open source and you can write your own plugins / apps for it. (This includes authing against your existing servers for members) Boxee runs on Windows, OS X, and Linux; DLINK has also jumped into the Boxee game and will be offering a dedicated piece of hardware for less than $200. Which is a very reasonable price point. This combination of accessibility covers every base.

What this means for you is you can offer the ability to watch your entire content library (images and video) from the comfort of members' couches, beds, and anywhere else they have a TV. Many tech savvy members already download videos rather than streaming just so they CAN watch them on their TV via whatever method they're using. However this method is VASTLY superior. Being able to watch any video, on demand, paying the same price (or increased price if you'd like) from any video outlet in your home is the way of the future. Consumers are catching on fast and positioning yourself NOW will be crux in the coming years. Playing catchup is not the game you want to be playing.

The tech is here now and you really shouldn't wait (beating the dead horse)... I, myself, will be developing a Boxee app for my own personal usage in the near future and I'd be happy to share my experiences with any interested parties. The Boxee API is absolutely brilliant and allows you to completely skin every aspect of your own app. Custom layouts, graphics, searches, whatever you want Boxee allows for it.

And to all you business owners who couldn't be bothered to return an email (or 10 in the case of Shap)... Go Fuck Yourself! You could have been there 6 months ago! :thumbsup

That is correct.

It has been covered in the trades a bit the past few months. In a few years, those who do not have their own clients and traffic network will find themselves being forced out by technology. The cost of doing business is going to continue to rise as new technology in delivery systems arise.

This is why I have had to revise my 2010 plans and expand my own traffic network.

There are a lot of changes in the pipe, and just as traffic is being gobbled up by a few big players in the industry while old traffic is dying out in the TGP business model. New delivery systems are on the way. Keep in mind for the smaller and middle class porn companies.. this is going to put greater control of your products in the hands of a very few who can afford the networks and infrastructure.

This means either you are going to have to partner up, most likely getting the rip off deals like you see today in VOD. Or you are going to have to build up your own client and base of customers to lock them in for the future. Or you spend the money to build the mobile apps, and other things needed to keep up with emerging technology and distribution.

Long story short. The adult industry is being reshaped, and soon a handful of companies will control the vast majority of both technology/distribution and traffic.

:2 cents:

the future is a simple device to hook up computer to TV, porn will do better and youtube will sluagter tv ratings further

no clue why there is no easy device to do that and a wireless keyboard

That's exactly what this is :) In fact you can use your iPhone as a Boxee remote it works over your local network so no pointing at something no "have to have your device in line of sight". It can be hidden behind your TV or in a cabinet or whatever you want.

I am sure it's in development. Just as you see in that Windows 7 is my idea commercial. You can start seeing where people are accessing one computer from others, and computer to the TV screen.

:2 cents:

we had looked at Boxee about a year ago - at that time it did not look like it was possible to add your own channel. if that is possible now i am definitely interested in talking to you :)

True dat toots.

id invest today in a project that will sell a package to homeowners to easily access their computer from their sofa

most people i know just have their computer hooked up to their tv and watch youtube, videos right now.

Thanks for a great thread Eric :thumbsup

Also thanks to Barefootsies for your continued insight into the inner working of our industry.

I have been talking with people in the adult industry about the advent of IPTV for almost two years now and I have to agree with you nobody that I talked to seemed to have any interest. :Oh crap

With the advances in content delivery outpacing most all other aspects of the industry this is the type of revolutionary technology that will be a "Game Changer".

From all the research I have done the past five years in the adult industry I feel that this is the "Future" of content delivery for our industry.

P.S. Miss the Orange Peel :pimp

What I do right now is have a wireless keyboard / mouse hooked up to my laptop which is hooked up to my tv via VGA cable.

I sit on the couch and do everything from there and it works fine for entertainment! Pop in a dvd and I'm good to go! Or if I don't want to use my DVD player, I download something (legal of course).

Edit: now going back to what you said, if there was only a way to make this a bit simpler for the average user.

The future is actually here now and it's TVs that are actually set up with this functionality built into them.

Small form nettop PCs are also a nice addition to any home entertainment center.

My two main TVs have teeny tiny Windows 7 boxes that run XBMC with a small wireless keyboard.

Dell sells them for as little as $249:

http://www.dell.com/content/products...en&s=dhs&cs=19

Microsoft and Sony already have as well :winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Keep selling it brother... good work. Every year I handle more traffic than the previous. But it's dying.. yes....I'll go with that, just to scare the newbies. :2 cents:

Until technology becomes 'one' major thing that does it all, and it's super cheap so the mass majority can afford it, and setting it up is stupid it and it improves peoples lives.... the trend will stay multiple technologies that benefit the persons personal desires, for the moment.

Meaning... your content should be making money on every technology possible. But at the same time it means others have to understand companies can only take on so much and balance what they think will make more money, now vs. 5 years from now.

It's coming for sure.

I just bought a new BluRay player for $250
I'm streaming full movies from blockbuster with it, watching youtube and internet music as well. All I had to do was get an optional network adapter for it, put in my network settings and I was in and streaming.

I can definitely see this coming. Downloading is yesterdays news. On demand streaming is where it's at.

We haven't had cable in years... nothing but a PC and a Mac now, paid tv stations legally for free, free tv online and air, games from any console, rent movies and record, record like a dvr...lots of software to help do allll types of stuff. You can use your iphone/touch as a remote... Truly the sky is the limit already.

even wireless streaming from pc to tv is going to change the landscape...

also, there will be a new product released this year to offer cable/satellite tv via an internet connection bypassing the infrastructure costs of the cable/sat companies.

its rumored that they will be selling the rights to channels to private companies at an affordable cost..





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I couldn't agree more Doc and that's why I'm touting Boxee...

A) It's free - you can run it on any existing computer (or buy a dedicated box)

B) It does everything - Netflix, CrunchyRoll, Last.FM, Pandora, you name it there's already apps for it. The amount of support Boxee is garnering is astounding.

C) It looks waaaay better than anything out there. Just checkout the UI!


And for those already talking about how they have a computer hooked up to their TV... Download Boxee it's free! Check it out!

Hmmm. I would have expected more from you.. tsk tsk.

You are in the traffic game. I am in the pay site game. So for those of us who run pay sites, or BROgrams who need traffic and affilates to survive. WE, meaning not traffic turds, are seeing more of our traditional traffic sources drying up.

Hence WE, again being those BROgrams and pay site owners, have to develop new traffic sources to remain competitive. None of us give two shits about traffic brokers getting more business then the year before. That is going to happen regardless as people look for more ways to monetize their left over impressions for crumbs.

Not all of use are in the traffic game. Nor the affiliate. No the pay sites or content production. While not all, most, know what I do. So when I write, I talk from my own experience and perspective. That said, trying to lump them all into some broad over reaching 'scare the newbies' mantra is ignorant.

As most BROgrams and pay site owners what they are seeing in the traffic to their sites, those patterns and conversions and I am sure it will be a lot darker picture than you're painting.

No offense.

Hey Robbie,

Which Blu ray player did you get...how much was the adapter....been looing for one for awhile now.

http://cdn.mashable.com/wp-content/u...screenshot.jpg

See what I mean? And the entire thing is skinable anyway you want... I own a popcorn hour box, a netgear EVA9000, and divx connected box... they all suck, they all are missing something or won't play something or won't do something.

This is the first tech I can get behind with 100% support.

Not to worry. Supporters of IPtv are right here lurking in the shadows.

Everything said in this thread is right on the $$$.

Nice :thumbsup

Yep.

Plenty of talk about it at conferences, and in the trades. Always amazes me how a lot of the board banter is never keeping up on these things. Not to say people have not read about them, but there are few good serious business discussions about these things that will benefit us all.

On the boards, it is almost like they run 6-12 months behind. Maybe that is good, bad, or a product of who's left chatting on them. I dunno, and do not mean it as a negative swipe at anyone.

My point is that there is a lot of shit coming down the pipe, and few really discussing it. I feel some of these changes are a bigger threat then the tube bullshit that we read about daily. The change in traffic. The change in technology. Among other things.

I know that merchant processing changes + the economy and effect on consumer credit have directly influenced my bottom line more than stolen content in the past 12-18 months. Yet it is always tubes.

But I digress....

All of my main clients grew in size last year... 100% of them grew. None of my clients that allow me to see stats are brograms, they are all hard working affiliate programs that pounded the pavement and grew from the hard work.

Several have said "record numbers" and "pre-2002 totals" happened last year and starting this year.

The game has changed, again... it's now bigger than ever!

im feeling pretty geeky.. i have the ole macbook, wireless keyboard, mouse, hooked up to one of my tv's, all computers networked and i move a flash drive from the other tvs around packed with movies.. this boxee thing sounds interesting though...

No offense. The industry as a whole is bigger than your 'clients'. Cue graphic.


:2 cents:

Thanks... I am SuperMan...and don't underestimate who my clients are. The combined base of sales of my clients is without question a massive sample of our Industry.



How about this, your sales are down because you fuck around on gfy too damn much. Do you have a sales team that finds affiliates while you post, daily? Are you always building onto your traffic network, every single day? Do you force them to produce results?

It's not really hard to grow an affiliate program.... it's actually, very easy.

Boxee is cool... I just don't need a lot of it, I have other technologies that are far better. Like my head unit streams Internet radio already, at extremely good qualities. Boxee can't tell the difference in voices to control content on tv either, shit gets really g33ky - but at least boxee has a chance to be here for a while....

We need the technology to become one, very badly. Make it so grandma doesn't have to figure out how to operate a rocket ship to turn the tv on.

Yep. Your stories defy all belief. Agreed.

Guess you must be Nostradamus as well. Cue graphic.


Oh well. I'll just make this easy since you know every thing, and everyone, and what their sales numbers are or are not, how and where they spend their free time, and you have the Midas golden touch.

You win. There, happy now?

Now the rest of us can return to the O.P. and business discussion....

You broke off the conversion, am I not allowed to inject? A traffic guy says he is doing good, and you think it's okay to inject your failed misery view point of the Industry, but others can't say it's not fucked up?

Your TINY ass sampling.. and you question mine? Get a clue and...

Kindly go fuck yourself and take your misery with you.. keep posting your useless unrelated pictures, or maybe realize it's part of the actual issue of why your sales suck.

Tech like this has existed for years sorry to say.
Even in form of bluetooth devices, you install the software....plug one BT into your comp and the second device into your TV
Drag everything you want displayed into a set folder a BOOM, full access.

I use XBMC, which is what Boxee code is based off of. You get a lot more control over your media library as well the look and feel of your setup.

I have both installed, but we like XBMC a lot more.

One thing I haven't checked is to see if Boxee apps and XMBC apps are interchangeable.

http://www.xmbc.org

All your claimed success and knowledge to be better than everyone else and yet you still have such a huge inferiority complex? What a shame. :2 cents:

Now, as I said last time, back to the O.P. and actual business discussion. Thank you.

:pimp

I see a good future coming for IPTV this and the coming years.
Already investing, cooperation, supplying and (co)developping a few projects in that area.

Good information :thumbsup

I would bet not only you, but some of those other big content brokers are as well. The one's who have those thousands of video libraries.

I know :winkwink:
It's a big world and new porn watchers get born every day, so there's room for everybody in the market :2 cents:

Do you even know what an inferiority complex is? Would you rather I lie and say my paysites or tell you who's they are?

And my quotes, are from my clients, that posted here on gfy about the success they have had... smoke on that fatty.

Truly, take your short, inferiority complex and suck a nut...

~SuperMan

Yep. With each reply in this thread you reinforce you have one. :thumbsup

I don't give a rat's ass, and neither does anyone else if truth be told. :2 cents:

Ah. Name calling...

I always enjoy the break down in dialogue. It's funny how the simpleton's like yourself always must resort to that, or violence, when they are not intelligent enough to have a civil discussion or win a debate.

Yet you are so 'superior'... Amusing.
:pimp

So let me get this straight... I can't say 'why I know' but you can, and that's okay? Truly, go fuck yourself.... you're a hypocrite asshole.

Quoted from your post "While not all, most, know what I do. So when I write, I talk from my own experience and perspective."

And ... "You are in the traffic game. I am in the pay site game. So for those of us who run pay sites"

Again.... you can say who you are, talk from your own experience and perspective, but once someone else does you get all butt hurt over it?

That's what you just did... stop being a bitch.


Name calling? "smoke on that fatty." doesn't mean you're fat - it's related to the statement I made, but I guess you are fat - it's not like I have a clue, I haven't ever met you.

doesn't surprise me at all. boards are information leaks. smart businessmen are not going to educate their competition. let people catch up after a market is captured. :2 cents: :)

While I appreciate, and am truly flattered, you taking such an interest in us 'little folk' to quote me verbatim and interject your 'expertise' into a conversation I was having with someone else. None of which involves you.

Then to repeatedly keep replying trying to prove, to whomever, you are the master, you are the sales god, you and your clients, blah blah blah...

Lastly, I find it entertaining you keep trying to deflect your inferiority complex on others. Listen man, it's cool you have to waste your time replying to people you perceive are less then your greatness over and over and over trying to prove your self worth. Talking about how great you are and your years of expertise and whatever...

In the end, no one gives a shit.

That said, the only little bitch in this thread is you. Which is something you keep reinforcing with each reply.

:2 cents:

:thumbsup

No... not at all, your dumb ass again questioned it - I didn't bring it up until then. Get a fucking clue.

You can't be this much of a douche bag? You truly don't see that you wrote about you first, about your shit... and then proceeded to point mine out, when it wasn't the focus?

Hahaha... dude, this is going to be fun for me.



Oh I will keep replying for hours, days and weeks.... you're a shit stain, and I'm going to make sure everyone sees it.

Agreed... it's why I didn't post about it when I was trying to shop it around. My goals take me in a different direction so I thought I'd just stir things up a bit.

You won't catch me talking on boards about what I'm actively pursuing. Too many deep pockets ;)

The Reality Kings BoXXXee app looks like ass:

http://www.boxxxee.com/wp-content/up...k-1024x573.jpg

Good idea, bad execution...

I always love the ignorant...

Do you honestly think that you 'lowering yourself to my level' really makes you look like a winner? Do you realistically think that you constantly replying and making yourself look like a ego-maniacal toddler really hurts me in some way?

Sounds like you need to used your 'expertise' to buy an education and some clues.

It isn't like others haven't railed on your ass... for a reason.

I can see why now. Just from these pathetic posts... sorry that you feel intimated by me and others like me, - people are successful and they are proud of it, it must suck to be you.


Being ignorant gives me an excuse to sit here here and rail your ass about it though, so it's all cool.