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HELMY 03-17-2010 03:03 PM

you guys bitch about cross sales? I just got tricked by Network Solutions...
 
So, I go in to transfer a few old domains over to NetSol.

I copy and paste the 6 domains, enter the transfer auth code for each and provide updated billing info and whatnot.

On the next page the domains are listed along with a "horizontal lever" next to each to control the number of renewal years.

So, I move the first domain's lever to 2 years and the rest of the domains get automatically shifted to 2 years.

Fine, somewhat logical.

Then I submit the order without paying close attention to the details on the confirmation page and guess what...

The levers represented ADDITIONAL YEARS on top of the standard 1-year renewal for each transfer.

So, we got dinged for 3 renewals per domain even though I thought I am specifying 2 years.

I can assure you thousands of NetSol customers are making the same mistake.

And guess what, I'm too busy to pick up the phone to deal with it. :mad:

closer 03-17-2010 03:08 PM

This is hardly cross-selling to me, just up-selling, and you didn't pay attention on what is clearly written on your screen ... blame yourself!

dropped9 03-17-2010 03:09 PM

hire me and you wont have that problem again! LOLOL

Brujah 03-17-2010 03:13 PM

Uhh, yeah... that's nowhere near the same thing.

HELMY 03-17-2010 03:24 PM

don't get technical folks - they are similar - both are used to get the customer to spend more $$.

the issue is that they can be easily overlooked.

HELMY 03-17-2010 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer (Post 16954866)
This is hardly cross-selling to me, just up-selling, and you didn't pay attention on what is clearly written on your screen ... blame yourself!

I do blame myself, which is why I don't think cross sales are bad. :1orglaugh

notime 03-17-2010 03:31 PM

In any business, not getting delivered what you expect and/or what was agreed upon, sucks donkey balls indeed.

xxweekxx 03-17-2010 03:33 PM

you've been NetSol'ed

CybermedAndy 03-17-2010 03:53 PM

Why anyone would want ANYTHING to do with Netsol is beyond me

JFK 03-17-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 16954951)
I do blame myself, which is why I don't think cross sales are bad. :1orglaugh

get the whip and the hair shirt out:upsidedow

xmas13 03-17-2010 07:30 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Cyber Fucker 03-17-2010 07:33 PM

Naughty.

GAMEFINEST 03-17-2010 07:35 PM

netsol sucks donkey balls..

Doctor Feelgood 03-17-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 16954844)
So, I go in to transfer a few old domains over to NetSol.

I copy and paste the 6 domains, enter the transfer auth code for each and provide updated billing info and whatnot.

On the next page the domains are listed along with a "horizontal lever" next to each to control the number of renewal years.

So, I move the first domain's lever to 2 years and the rest of the domains get automatically shifted to 2 years.

Fine, somewhat logical.

Then I submit the order without paying close attention to the details on the confirmation page and guess what...

The levers represented ADDITIONAL YEARS on top of the standard 1-year renewal for each transfer.

So, we got dinged for 3 renewals per domain even though I thought I am specifying 2 years.

I can assure you thousands of NetSol customers are making the same mistake.

And guess what, I'm too busy to pick up the phone to deal with it. :mad:

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/s...n_haha2uwr.jpg

AaronM 03-17-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 16954844)
And guess what, I'm too busy to pick up the phone to deal with it. :mad:



Thank God you had the time to bring it to GFY's attention though. :winkwink:

HandballJim 03-17-2010 07:45 PM

I still have one domain at netsol and I will just renew it again for 10 years.

D Ghost 03-17-2010 07:50 PM

I've been telling people about this for years... mainstream sites use these practices all the time.

DaddyHalbucks 03-17-2010 08:00 PM

Next time use Moniker.

SomeCreep 03-17-2010 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16955593)

:1orglaugh

ArsewithClass 03-18-2010 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 16954971)
In any business, not getting delivered what you expect and/or what was agreed upon, sucks donkey balls indeed.

Agreed! :thumbsup


Yes, this was not like a cross sell but it certainly was disillusioning the customer. It obviously did not have a sign come up saying you have added 2 more years. :Oh crap

I suppose the only good thing here is, you can sit back and not worry about purchasing these sites in just 2 years :winkwink:

pradaboy 03-18-2010 11:19 AM

Why on Earth would you use NetSol anyway? That's about the worst choice possible.

SmokeyTheBear 03-18-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer (Post 16954866)
This is hardly cross-selling to me, just up-selling, and you didn't pay attention on what is clearly written on your screen ... blame yourself!

i dont think he actually claimed it was cross-selling, he said we bitch about cross-selling and showed how a mainstream site was tricky in its process.

If he was decieved it was deceptive, pretty simple to me. Like mcdonalds/burger king ads. The burgers are deceptive as you would never actually recieve a burger like that. Is it a crime ? maybe but probably not. Is it deceptive ? yes

There are obviously varying degrees of deceptiveness , some piss you off, some you can reasonably assume. Intent plays a big role too.

Like travel ads on tv for vegas or hawaii. They show the best of the best not the crackhead hookers shooting up in the alley's. The intent isn't to decieve but the reality is. With the burger ads the intent is too decieve but one can reasonably assume the burgers arent going to be the ones on the tv commercial.

troncarver 03-18-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 16954844)
I'm too busy to pick up the phone to deal with it. :mad:

but your not to busy to post on a novel on gfy :)

fuzebox 03-18-2010 11:34 AM

Mainstream is all about sneaking in upsells and cross sales and hidden terms...

I love the new "Express Payment" field when buying shit with godaddy.

Mutt 03-18-2010 11:37 AM

why on earth would you be transfering domains over to Network Solutions?

HELMY 03-18-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16957302)
why on earth would you be transfering domains over to Network Solutions?

they offer sweetheart rates if you have enough domains with them.

HELMY 03-18-2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troncarver (Post 16957292)
but your not to busy to post on a novel on gfy :)


i make time whenever i'm inspired to share something with the community.

V_RocKs 03-18-2010 01:02 PM

That is fucked up!

rowan 03-18-2010 04:33 PM

What level was the lever at to start with?

I noticed that Moniker has a default term of 2 years when you renew, but at least it's clear what "2 years" means... I bet some people still get caught by that though...

WiredGuy 03-18-2010 05:54 PM

You didn't notice the total amount to be charged was 3X more than it should be?
WG

PornMD 03-18-2010 05:55 PM

GoDaddy was doing that precise thing for a while then stopped. NetSol is hurting for biz though - lots of other registrars taking biz from what used to be more or less a monopoly.

Barefootsies 03-18-2010 05:59 PM

Sweet Justice
 
Life is one big upsell no matter who it is.
:2 cents:

slavdogg 03-18-2010 06:02 PM

let me be the first one to say,
ur an idiot for using NetSol :)

RaiderCash_Dominik 03-18-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 16954844)
So, I go in to transfer a few old domains over to NetSol.

I copy and paste the 6 domains, enter the transfer auth code for each and provide updated billing info and whatnot.

On the next page the domains are listed along with a "horizontal lever" next to each to control the number of renewal years.

So, I move the first domain's lever to 2 years and the rest of the domains get automatically shifted to 2 years.

Fine, somewhat logical.

Then I submit the order without paying close attention to the details on the confirmation page and guess what...

The levers represented ADDITIONAL YEARS on top of the standard 1-year renewal for each transfer.

So, we got dinged for 3 renewals per domain even though I thought I am specifying 2 years.

I can assure you thousands of NetSol customers are making the same mistake.

And guess what, I'm too busy to pick up the phone to deal with it. :mad:


This is not cross-sell dummy. REAL Cross-sell would be if you got charged $159.00 by some hosting company in Cyprus with URL hlp-senter5098.com and cancel button that doesn't work.

HELMY 03-18-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik (Post 16958600)
This is not cross-sell dummy. REAL Cross-sell would be if you got charged $159.00 by some hosting company in Cyprus with URL hlp-senter5098.com and cancel button that doesn't work.


Oh ok, thank you.

HELMY 03-18-2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16958569)
You didn't notice the total amount to be charged was 3X more than it should be?
WG


It wasn't 3X more - it was 50% more.

For example, if the total was supposed to come out to $120, it came out to $180.

Easy to miss when you're multitasking.

Relentless 03-18-2010 08:17 PM

Try joining ESPN to become an 'Insider'

They charge a recurring monthly fee and there is NO possible way to cancel online. To end your subscription you need to find a phone number in the small print, call and wait on hold for a few minutes... and then argue with a customer service rep until he/she agrees to cancel your account.

fuzebox 03-18-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 16958875)
Try joining ESPN to become an 'Insider'

They charge a recurring monthly fee and there is NO possible way to cancel online. To end your subscription you need to find a phone number in the small print, call and wait on hold for a few minutes... and then argue with a customer service rep until he/she agrees to cancel your account.

:thumbsup

It's crazy how much shit the mainstream world gets away with just because they aren't porn.

lazycash 03-18-2010 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16957302)
why on earth would you be transfering domains over to Network Solutions?

Lol, I had the exact same thought, had to re check the thread date to make sure it wasn't 2001.

lazycash 03-18-2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 16957321)
they offer sweetheart rates if you have enough domains with them.

So what was this so called sweetheart rate, I bet it was still twice as much as registrars who are far better than Netsol.

BIGTYMER 03-19-2010 02:56 AM

Those tricky sliders. :)

TarPy 03-19-2010 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 16954951)
I do blame myself, which is why I don't think cross sales are bad. :1orglaugh

Yea, because trying to take money out of people's pocket by taking advantage of "things they didn't notice" is always how I'd like to pay my mortgage... :321GFY

Nothing dishonest about that, after all he could have CAUGHT us...

HELMY 03-19-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarPy (Post 16960034)
Yea, because trying to take money out of people's pocket by taking advantage of "things they didn't notice" is always how I'd like to pay my mortgage... :321GFY

Nothing dishonest about that, after all he could have CAUGHT us...


Wake up buddy, these practices are all around us (online porn, real estate, travel, etc.) - you yourself are profiting from these same practices whether you want to believe it or not.

fatfoo 03-19-2010 09:37 AM

Tricked by Network Solutions... Good luck with that, HELMY.


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