Does today's porn really suck?
 

I've loved porn since the first time I saw it. I used to rent it on VHS tapes. I was a regular at the porn shops in town. It was like a hobby. Especially on days I couldn't get laid! Back then the porn from the 80's and maybe into the early 90's kicked ass. Something you don't see as much off.... the chick's smiling. The women don't seem to smile like they used to. They looked like they were into it. These chicks just look like they want the dough so they can get their next fix.

Not only that. But, there was that little shot right before the cumshot. The shot of the guy in what looked like pure pleasure. You saw that and then you saw the jizz fly. No matter if it was real or fake, it sure did make the movie more fun to watch. You don't even see the guy's face in a lot of porn today. Women that don't smile and guys that don't show their faces. To top it all off, there's no good music. There was only one place to hear that music. After a few drinks or whatever that music starts to sound good. No music, sad chicks, and no face shot before the money shot.

While I might not be the most sober among us today. I do believe I'm kind of heartbroken over the quality of porn that I see.

Which begs me to ask.... What sponsor is selling the good porn to the customer?

Don't tell me you didn't laugh at least one time when when Ron Jeremy made those faces right before the cumshot. That was classic film. If I had a cigar and a glass with a couple fingers of good booze in it I would feel like an old man talking about this.

I flip through a lot of porn and my #1 complaint is seeing the guys face or hearing his stupid little jokes when I'm trying to watch an ass bounce up and down.

I think it's kind of weird that you are disappointed you don't see the guys face right before the pop. LOL.

Also that one movie with Ron Jeremy in it. I don't remember what it was called. I seem to remember a chick that was lactating. After Ron Jeremy shot his load he started to talk like the guy from The Godfather. Someone other than me has had to see that one? They used to be kind of crazy like that. Or that one where Peter North dresses up like a super hero?

Maybe the talent sucks today.

Facial expressions are way underrated, and if they appear, often too fake
Focus lies completely on penetration these days which is a shame cause having good sex is so much more than that, even to watch

I want to see that!

It's not as good as it used to be.

Agreed.

I simply do not watch porn that has a guy in it any more based on the old flicks where you would get the dude and his remarks, his face, some shithead off cam being 'the coach' and so on.

:disgust

You got to understand. Back in the day there weren't a few hundred TV channels and youtube and online radio. There is a lot more entertainment available today. Though, it generally isn't as high in quality as it once was.

I always thought the idea of watching porn was to have fun. Those jokes were to be part of the experience. Part of the fun. After all, you can't take a movie too serious that was made for you to jerk off too. We aren't talking Gone with the Wind here. We wanted to see people having fun and guys living out that fantasy. That's what it was all about. The fantasy. Now, even if it were fantasy you wouldn't see nothing. Just a cock and a chick that seems to have forgotten to smile. Maybe the guy could have the unsigned check taped to his pubes to remind her to smile from time to time.

My absolute #1 turnoff is having the camera cut to the guy's face. #2 is hearing his voice.

I still haven't found a porn star that compares to Loni Sanders. She had the ultimate "fuck me" face. :2 cents:

Sorry toots. You're just desensitized.

I know from a fetish stand point, the porn is DEAD THE FUCK ON for catering to the shots and needs of the fetish folk. We do not get the crumbs and shit that Vivid and some of the old school porn companies tried to pass off as fetish porn.

A foot flying in the air, a 2 second toe lick, and lingering shot of her shoe while being fucked, etc.. Those were all classics back in the day and box covers would be marketed, and rip off, people looking for micro niches.

Now the porn is more tailored to those of us who want more specific things. Not ALL of the videos, even foot videos, hit the spot for me. But there is a lot better material now then there was even back mid 90's.

Are you saying that customers are willing to pay for poor quality content as long as it is what they want to see?

IMO, that was the worst part of classic porn. They focused way too much on the guy's face. That's not hot. Most guys don't want to see the guy's face right before he's about to jizz. They want to see the chick the whole time.

Customers will pay for porn if it is exactly what they want. Especially in fetish.

They do not need HD, nor perfect lighting, or the hottest women on the planet to rub one out. They need scenes that focus on their fetish at the right angles and duration. Girls doing the right thing in the scene and looking like, or being into it.

How do I know? Because patrons write me. I also seek out their boards and read their comments. Not one time have I ever seen them talk about HD, nor say it would be better in HD. They talk about the angles, and if the girls is into it, the length of the scene among other things.

It sounds to me like you are one of these believers who thing all porn must be professional shot in the best lighting, HD, mega screen res., and the hottest women on the planet. That is 100% wrong. Especially in the fetish markets. It simply reinforces how little mainstream guys know about niche.

:2 cents:

Maybe you are right with something like a foot fetish. I can't say I've ever understood it. I always enjoyed seeing at least stripper hot kind of chicks get fucked. I like some lipstick and to see them act like they are actually having a good time. The guys are hardly shown. In some sites you might not even see the guy's face at all. If I'm going to watch a chick suck a dick, I at least want to know the guy isn't a freak. The man could have a horn on his head.

I think the shot of the guy right before the cumshot is fantastic. Especially if we're talking facials or cum on tits. It gives the chick a chance to smile. I want to see a chick smile and be happy that cum is going to land on her. I want her to be as excited to watch him shoot semen on her face as I am. No matter even if it makes her sick. I want to see a woman enjoying some semen.

Right! Mass distribution, creates mass production which creates a formula to optimize cost of production, which creates a a generic product in any business.

Also what the fuck is up with the couches? I'm so sick of seeing people fuck on couches. Everything is done from a couch. Buy a bed. If they have to use couches get some custom upholstery done so it doesn't look like total shit. Like someone took the couch out of their parent's house long enough to shoot a porn video. Spend some money to make the place look half way decent. All you really need to do is know a queer that likes to go to the thrift shops :1orglaugh

Models on auto pilot and not being told to get into it.

More money is not invested in fact the trend is less.

The last post hits the nail firmly on the head. The price for a master copy of a DVD or a single scene has plummeted over the last 20 years. So companies or websites could turn out more for the same buck. This has led to a glut of production with models turning on auto pilot the moment the camera starts and people shooting porn who simply have no experience.

A few sites and companies have bucked this trend and their numbers are holding, because the others just don't meet customers expectations over and over again.

You are just nostalgic. What you describe is what sucks on porn movies the most. The fact that there is less stupid music and no stupid guy faces, makes porn more quality, actually. I didn't realize girls weren't smiling during porn nowadays, I don't think many women smile during having sex in real life either.

Its like telling: "I miss the old times when all people were like happy teddybears, smiling all the time, holding hands and helping each other." Those times never were, but people mostly remember only the good things from the past, so they have an illusion of things beeing better back in the day. When the fact is, that people didn't really change.

it seems me you are just the older generation. music in porn is gay, showing the guy...who the hell wants to see him grimace his face before he cums? these days its the more hardcore the better for most. they want to see limits pushed and the girls who will do that kind of stuff might not be in the same league as some of the pornstars in the 80s but there are many who are much better looking than say, nina hartely.

Those times never were. Some things were there. Some things kick ass not because of nostalgia, but because they really are works of art. At least in some degree.

Yes, the Where's the Beef old lady was funny. It was fun trying to see if there was an end to Pitfall. And yes, porn was fantasy and not reality. I don't know how often a woman smiles. You see, reality sucks. That's why we watch entertainment. I don't care what a woman does in reality.

It must have been the Pepsi Throwback. That's what threw my mind out of whack. Who knew real sugar tasted so good?!

I would say that just like the "old days"...some porn is really good and some is just average.

And just like the "old days" it all comes down to what you are watching. Back in the early 1980's I went to my first adult bookstore in Ft. Lauderdale, Fl and went on a buying spree. I ended up with a dozen or so videos that I thought would be good judging by the box cover.

Nope. They all were boring.

I finally put together a "gonzo" tape (which is what a LOT of folks used to do) which was basically taking out all the filler crap and going straight to the fucking. I ended up with a 2 hour tape that kicked ass! Now THAT was a tape a guy could jerk off to everytime.

Fast forward to now: Yes, if you watch the generic porn being put out by the bigger companies it does all start to look the same. They can't help it. When you have one in-house "director" having to come up with 4 or 5 scenarios a day using the same dozen porn valley girls and guys over and over and over...well, the creativity is hard to keep at a quality level.

How many times can you put Puma Swede in glasses and call her a "granny" and then turn around and put her in pigtails and call her a "teen"? (actually that sounds like something I'd like to do in private with her...lol)

But there are lots of people out here shooting good porn that caters to the EXACT needs and wants of the people. If you like skinny teen girls getting fucked by big black cock...I will guarantee you that there is a porn site right now doing a better job of that than ANY company from the past ever did. Same with every niche. You just have to find them and stop generalizing the entire industry by what that little self-absorbed place called "Porn Valley" does. Porn Valley is NOT the industry anymore. It's not even close. It's just where they still put out DVD's that nobody buys, nothing more.

This post should win an award. This is almost like a religious text. I understand it all now :party-smi

give me hot babe i dont look for big cocks

Of course it's the older generation. The younger generation weren't there to experience it.

But once porn tastes get to that level there's little reason to buy, you might as well stick to Tubes if all you want is straight fucking. You ignore what makes a site or DVD individual.

This is the problem linked to the lack of funds. Some companies used to buy in. But once they found it was cheaper to do it the way you described they went that route. And lost their customers.

Today's porn is too generic. Pornographers have lost touch with what people really want. Sometimes the porn sucks so much, I am already starting to think this is a big conspiracy of the porn producers to make their porn look bad so that they can sell more of it...

I think porn has never been better. Nowadays you can find pretty much everything...hundreds of niches, big or small, some you didn't even heard of, everyone finds what he is looking for. So no clue what you mean with generic, if there is such a huge variety of movies.

yeah man bring back the good old 70s -80s porn with all those hairy pussys and real boobs
Way to much fake crap around now

You mentioned music... You're spot on. Nothing beats 70s porn funk music. Lots of wa wa effects and funky base lines. There's even CD collections that came out in the 90s that featured anthologies of 70s German porn background music.

It's not that they lost touch. It's because that's all they can produce. Then they spam everywhere telling webmasters this is what the surfer really wants. :Oh crap

i watched plenty of 80s porn when i was younger.

I just don't know ...

agreed!!:thumbsup

So are you saying that with reduced budgets, models faking it more and over production it's a better product today?

i wouldn't say better...just as with any medium, it progresses for better or worse. The fact that i don't like the music, or guy face shots is a preference but one that it seems is shared by many. i couldn't care less about budgets. if the girl is hot and getting fucked hard, thats the main points for me. one thing i really remember about 80s porn was the loops. it doesn't seem like they do that anymore. it was really annoying.

No, that SMALL percentage of porn DOES suck. But the thousands of independent producers around the world who are shooting amateur girls that are 100% real and not faking it is a lot better product than the stuff put out in the past. Especially since the technology now allows people who don't have a million dollars to do things that million dollar studios couldn't do in the past all from a computer and maybe 10 grand of camera gear.

Just like in music and art...being a big studio doesn't neccessarily mean that you have a superior product. And every year somebody, somewhere will come along and build on the past to make a better product today.

Today we can light up a set far better than they used to with a LOT less heat in the room. We can shoot and edit with one handheld prosumer cam that costs 5 grand and get better quality than guys using a couple of quarter million dollar cams could.

The only thing that made porn of yesterday AND of today suck was when it's shot by a big company that hires a guy to shoot scenes for a dozen different niches. It's impossible to have creativity and real quality like that.

So they hire a guy who can churn out a consistently "good" scene for them. No more, no less. Just like the "old days".

Oh God. I hated that shit. It was so fucking obvious and so lame that they were looping the same shit over and over. Pathetic and uncreative. I don't know of anybody currently doing that lame ass shit.

Right in the old days all money shots would be preceeded by an endless clip of the male talent's face - how horrible and gay was that? Total scene killer. When the public started getting what is wanted, all that went away.

I like retro better sometimes, new shit other times, depends on the niche

It's not as good as it used to be. [2]

it could be better, good old pornstars are getting fat and there aren't a lot of new babes that fit in the pornstar category.