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rob04 03-28-2010 10:50 PM

Never work with family...
 
Well, after many years of ups and downs working with a sibling. All I can say is never work with family. It will never work out! Well maybe I'm being slightly pessimistic but I don't think so....

Barefootsies 03-28-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rob04 (Post 16987449)
Never work with family....

One of the best rules ever.

Closely followed by, never loaning money to friends.

:disgust

Agent 488 03-28-2010 10:51 PM

shooting porn?

rob04 03-28-2010 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16987452)
shooting porn?

lol no it wasn't shooting porn... thank god!

It was a few mainstream sites that we developed that now generate upwards of about $100k monthly. I was supposed to be a partner... yet I haven't seen a penny. It's amazing what money does to people, even family members.

Agent 488 03-28-2010 11:00 PM

well that will make for an uncomfortable easter.

$5 submissions 03-28-2010 11:01 PM

I agree 100000000000000000000000%. I found that out the hard way. 1 word: COUSIN

rob04 03-28-2010 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16987466)
well that will make for an uncomfortable easter.

Yup, as well as birthdays, family gatherings, etc. Again, never work with family!

Someone told me that a long time ago, I guess I was too young and stupid at the time to heed their warnings.

Farang 03-28-2010 11:07 PM

I have had a really bad experience doing business with friends.

closer 03-28-2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Farang (Post 16987479)
I have had a really bad experience doing business with friends.

Same here, never ever hire a friend or family member

For some reason, they expect more and give less then your ordinary employee

martinsc 03-28-2010 11:26 PM

biz and family don't mix.

hypedough 03-28-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 16987467)
I agree 100000000000000000000000%. I found that out the hard way. 1 word: COUSIN

That's enough blood not to give a shit.

TeenCat 03-28-2010 11:45 PM

only truth in this thread

georgeyw 03-29-2010 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by closer (Post 16987483)
Same here, never ever hire a friend or family member

For some reason, they expect more and give less then your ordinary employee

Agreed whole heartedly!

I employed a mate and he took advantage or tried to at every opportunity. :mad:

Va2k 03-29-2010 03:41 AM

Hell I have my brother working with me, have for the last 3 years and he has been the best thing since slice bread!

closer 03-29-2010 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 16987711)
Hell I have my brother working with me, have for the last 3 years and he has been the best thing since slice bread!

There is always the exception to the rule :winkwink:

ottopottomouse 03-29-2010 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rob04 (Post 16987449)
Never work with family...

It's actually almost a proper written rule in my family but more to do with if you all work together and the business goes down the shitter the whole family is fucked rather than everybody getting on each others tits.
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16987451)
One of the best rules ever.

Closely followed by, never loaning money to friends.

Add to that don't recommend a friend for a job as they are guaranteed to turn out to be a lazy git and make you look bad too.

kane 03-29-2010 04:17 AM

I think it all really depends on what you are doing and what your relationship is like. For a couple of years I had a part time business where I bought stuff at auctions then sold it on e-bay. I did pretty good. I put in about 15 hours a week and made some nice extra money off of it. My brother and a friend were both involved in it and we split the jobs equally, got the work done and never had money issues. My friend that was involved was just talking about starting it back up and I am actually looking forward to working with him again on it.

On the other hand I once bought a house with a few friends that we were going to renovate and flip. As we looked for the house and bought the house everything was cool. Once it became clear just how much work it was going to be it became harder and harder to get things done. Just getting everyone together to work on the house became a pain the ass and since I was the only one that was already self-employed it seemed like I had to handle everything since I didn't have a "real" job and I wasn't married with kids. Eventually, we finished it and sold it, but it took about twice as long as planned just to get the work done.

I'm still friends with them and we hang out all the time, but we won't be doing that again :)

CaptainHowdy 03-29-2010 05:35 AM

Great piece of advice...

elmy 03-29-2010 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16987452)
shooting porn?


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

plateman 03-29-2010 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 16987752)
I think it all really depends on what you are doing and what your relationship is like. For a couple of years I had a part time business where I bought stuff at auctions then sold it on e-bay. I did pretty good. I put in about 15 hours a week and made some nice extra money off of it. My brother and a friend were both involved in it and we split the jobs equally, got the work done and never had money issues. My friend that was involved was just talking about starting it back up and I am actually looking forward to working with him again on it.

On the other hand I once bought a house with a few friends that we were going to renovate and flip. As we looked for the house and bought the house everything was cool. Once it became clear just how much work it was going to be it became harder and harder to get things done. Just getting everyone together to work on the house became a pain the ass and since I was the only one that was already self-employed it seemed like I had to handle everything since I didn't have a "real" job and I wasn't married with kids. Eventually, we finished it and sold it, but it took about twice as long as planned just to get the work done.

I'm still friends with them and we hang out all the time, but we won't be doing that again :)

I bet fuck that, houses are a ton of work

SpongeBub 03-29-2010 05:58 AM

A mainstream site generating 100K per month?? What are they selling - cocaine? Cause I cannot think of anything else that would generate those kind of numbers. Hell, I have a pretty successful music-related site and I don't do anywhere near those kind of sales.

ArsewithClass 03-29-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16987451)
One of the best rules ever.

Closely followed by, never loaning money to friends.

:disgust

But have you not heard of "Keep it in the family" & "Never mix business & Pleasure"


I promise that all of these saying are just saying that worked for some.

Natalie & I work, sleep, lol even shit together. I have worked with my father in a business years ago which was very successful & my sister & I have worked together, not in the adult business & have found not a problem.
Natalie & I are friends with some of our clients & now we only see some as friends.

It all depends on your own personalities. Rob04, do you want your business to work? If you do, sit down and speak to your sibling. Forget trying to be the big I am as your sibling may have some great ideas & looking from a different angle, could make it work better than your ideas. Also your sibling must do the same. You both can make it work together. Good luck buddy.:thumbsup

RazorSharpe 03-29-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 16988268)
even shit together

Is this a South British thing? :Oh crap

_Richard_ 03-29-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SpongeBub (Post 16987931)
A mainstream site generating 100K per month?? What are they selling - cocaine? Cause I cannot think of anything else that would generate those kind of numbers. Hell, I have a pretty successful music-related site and I don't do anywhere near those kind of sales.

he said a few, with the 'upwards of' which probably means about 90

John-ACWM 03-29-2010 09:10 AM

True. I laughed just reading the title :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 03-29-2010 09:19 AM

Also, never loan money to family. If it isn't a question of "life and death", obviously.

romeo22 03-29-2010 09:23 AM

nice advice.It cant mix oil and wather :pimp

CDSmith 03-29-2010 09:25 AM

It all depends on the character of the friend or sibling of course, but from my own experiences with working with family I would have to wholeheartedly agree. Worked with a family member for nearly 5 years and after that I simply had had enough. Business was good and somewhat profitable but the stress from not getting along wasn't worth it.

ArsewithClass 03-29-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 16988294)
Is this a South British thing? :Oh crap

I think eat shit & piss together is a world wide expression, is it not?

Maybe its just a South English, British or United Kingdom type of thing?????

Thankyou RazorSharpe for your sarcasm... :thumbsup

J. Falcon 03-29-2010 10:20 AM

Money and blood don't mix.

intellichat 03-29-2010 10:22 AM

Seems to be going alrite over here :upsidedow

amvcdotcom 03-29-2010 10:30 AM

agreed.:thumbsup

ottopottomouse 03-29-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 16988294)
Is this a South British thing? :Oh crap

Seen people saying this here before - where's South British or is this some old joke I don't know?

Sly 03-29-2010 10:45 AM

Don't rent to them either.

Doing "business" with anybody that you were not introduced to on a business level is very very risky. Too many emotions and expectations at play. The person in a higher position practically always gets burned. Just avoid it.

RazorSharpe 03-29-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 16988587)
Seen people saying this here before - where's South British or is this some old joke I don't know?

LOL - don't ask about "South British" ....

I'm in Scotland and lived down south for several years and I've NEVER heard anyone say "we shit together"

rob04 03-29-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeBub (Post 16987931)
A mainstream site generating 100K per month?? What are they selling - cocaine? Cause I cannot think of anything else that would generate those kind of numbers. Hell, I have a pretty successful music-related site and I don't do anywhere near those kind of sales.

Just google 'loans'. You'd be amazed the amount of traffic generated for the #1 site and the value of each lead.

WinstonTriplexcash 03-29-2010 10:40 PM

steel's biggest weakness is its own rust :thumbsup


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