Can you cure Clinical Depression with Alcoholism?
 

Serious question. Sometimes I'm so fucking down I can't even lift my arms to type, but I have a couple drinks (and maybe a snort or two of something), and I'm just fine.

Now I know there are all types of "supposed legit pharmasuetical" drugs on every commercial on every network show that can have me running around in the sunshine and acting a fool, but they all warn me I could start bleeding from the ass and my balls could explode.

I think it's safer to do stuff I know is bad for me and not fool myself.

Both ways are a dead-end (psychiatry and the "dyonisian path"), go see an analyst... try talking to someone.

going out and getting pissed and having a good time is better than moping around like an emo fag yes.

Alcoholism will most likely perpetuate your depression eventually. Try some sort of physical activity where you sweat profusely. That is better than any pill.

start going to the gym, i was depressed as hell didnt ever wanna leave the house or talk to anyone, just went to work came home and would play xbox. needless to say its the best healthy addiction

Magic Mushrooms can help. They are a proven antidepressant and the effects can last for up to a month. ;)

Weed is the cure for many people, although it can make certain people fucked+paranoid.

Works for me though, I'm a happy MF.

just as easily as it can cure it, shrooms can also cause it. Its not medically proven, what youre saying is "bro-science"

The cure doesn't come from outside. It can only come from within. I know, that in itself seems like a depressing truth but if you let it sink in and act on it... it can actually set you free. I wish you nothing but peace, joy, and abundance. Be well.

there also proven to cause psychiatric problems.

They only bring to the forefront mental illness that was already latent. In other words, they don't make you crazy, but if you were already crazy and hiding it with whatever coping skill you were using, then it completely shows...

Spanx,
Jack

Did you find a reason of your being miserable?

Actually, like someone else said, I can't do shrooms, or acid or any kind of LSD without seeing CIA conspiracies targeting me personally from every direction. I used to do a lot of it with no problem and then suddenly - BANG :1orglaugh

On the other hand, I can do thick fat lines of meth and stare at a wall all night and be fine. Haven't done either in a while but just curious about that. I know the meth is worse. I'll quote a friend who said, "There is something very wrong with a drug where you can do absolutely nothing all night long and think you are in paradise." He meant not even feel or react or anything - nothing really being nothing.

can not...

No, that's the problem.

I can find reasons after I'm miserable though, but I can usually tell when I wake up if I'm going to be miserable that day or not.

Sometimes the sky is grey. Sometimes it's spring and birds are singing, but they are laughing at me because everyone is in love except me. Sometimes I'm in love but the bitch won't give me any space. Sometimes she gives me too much space so I know she's up to something (actually this is one of the best times of my life even if she's not up to anything because it's something to focus on). :1orglaugh

It will cure it in the sense that it will create a downward spiral of addiction and mental illness that results in your death or incarceration at some point....... if that is what you mean by "cure" then I would say yes.

answer is: yes :)

Maybe you should let all the scientists who are doing the research know that they don't know squat ;)

http://csp.org/psilocybin/Psilo20060...atricTimes.pdf


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cientists.html


http://www.anxietyinsights.info/psil...esearchers.htm


http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publicat...iles/mushrooms


http://www.bestsyndication.com/Artic...depression.htm

Alcohol actually causes the depression, it is a vicious cycle.

It has a lot to do with who you are doing them around.. and the dose they use for theraputic reasons is barely enough to trip on, certainly not close to the recreational use amount :) Best of luck, and the VERY best way to cure depression is cognative thinking.

That is true too, because being me. I've still done them after bad trips and it usually does have a lot to do with who I am with, and also the fact that I usually always double or triple up the next day since I had a good time the day before :1orglaugh

I'm actually not depressed at this moment, but was this morning and it's coming a lot more these days and sticking around a lot longer. So I was actually curious if there was some quick fix, but was fairly certain there wasn't.

yeah, you may want to seek rehab...

Do you ingest foods with aspertame?

Diet drinks, foods with artificial sweeteners, etc?

Aspertame is known to cause deep depressions, and it is now in over 9,000 products we consume - often hidden under the catch phrase "natural and artificial sweeteners" or in other hidden statements.

It is a poison, but as it likely feeds the pharmaceutical companies ability to sell shitloads of anti-depressants, I guess it just keeps going!

Do you ingest foods with aspertame?

Diet drinks, foods with artificial sweeteners, etc?

Aspertame is known to cause deep depressions, and it is now in over 9,000 products we consume - often hidden under the catch phrase "natural and artificial sweeteners" or in other hidden statements.

It is a poison, but as it likely feeds the pharmaceutical companies ability to sell shitloads of anti-depressants, I guess it just keeps going!

Absolutely. Just ask AMP :thumbsup

Fun fact: In certain markets aspartame is manufactured using a genetically modified variation of E. coli.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Do something for your adrenalin like boxing, team sport or something else.
I did so and apart from this, a drink of cold vodka helped me always after a fucked up day.

And one short advice, go out on the street.
Nothing is more depressing as staying at home, windows and doors closed all time long.

Did you find a reason of your being miserable? did you ? :)

No, but I noticed that everyone who has asked me this question has had or is having a feeling of miserableness or at least knows what feeling miserable is? Do you think the CIA is putting something in the water?

Yes, being an addict is more fun, than being depressed. Just make sure you can afford it.

Working out does release endorphines that do make you feel better. I should take this advice as well. :thumbsup


I know alot of guys that go through this very same thing. It's kind of like being stuck in a thought pattern, when it's a negative thought pattern it just takes over everything, like drop of dye in a bucket of water.

I don't know anyone who's been helped by anti-depressants. One of my friends gets anxiety w/ it and he takes Adivan when he has really bad days, but not as a daily dose (as docs reccomend), only when he's having a really bad day.

Booze is a depressant for some people and it's addictive, you don't want to add a drinking habit on top of anything, it will only make things worse. Some people self medicate with weed. It's not legal but I don't know anyone who's smoked themselves to death.

Honestly, since you can recognise that it's happening, I think you're already on the right path. The best advice is to just recognise what's happening and then let it run it's course. If you meet a chick you really dig let her know up front when you're having a good day that sometimes you have low days and when that happens you need your space, then when you're in a bad way let her know that it's one of those days. Some chicks will get it, some chicks won't, but you've got a better chance of them understanding if you've discussed it beforehand. :2 cents:

These thoughts helped me come around from the depression I had in my 30's

Every new day, hour, minute, second etc.. is a chance to change the way you think about things and to begin again.
Accept who you are and what you are and be yourself, not who you think others might want you to be.
You are unique, just like everyone else.
All those cliche sayings you hear all the time are said because they probably ring true at some level, think of them and what they mean to you.
No matter how crappy things may be, somebody else has felt the same way too and has gone thru pretty much what your going thru.
Speaking what's on your mind is the best therapy that there is, don't be afraid to do it.

Blah Blah Blah... theres a million more...

Meditate daily and Medicate only for fun. You control your body and mind and nothing can bring you down except you.

DG

I think that alcoholism can increase depressed feelings.

so just don't start going to meetings to try to quit and you won't be an alcoholic! and drink it up! 7 and 7's all day if you like. when you start the cycle of negative connotations toward and action you tend to look down upon it and then yourself for doing that action.

Alcohol is a depressant that slows brain activity down. While one or two drinks makes most people feel relaxed, more alcohol may cause feelings of anxiety, depression, and often aggression.

Smoking, vaping, or ingesting marijuana can help relieve your symptoms of depression and anxiety. Vaping or ingesting is easier on your system than smoking.

Pharmaceuticals are the worst.

Finding a good gf may help, just make sure she's not a drug addicted stripper...

Good advice :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

when you get depressed read this. you will never be depressed again:

I am me.

In all the world, there is no one else exactly like me. There are people who have some parts like me but no one adds up exactly like me. Therefore, everything that comes out of me is authentically mine because I alone choose it.

I own everything about me- my body, including everything it does; my mind, including all my thoughts and ideas; my eyes, including the images of all they behold; my feelings, whatever they might be -- anger, joy, frustration, love, disappointment, excitement; my mouth and all the words that come out of it -- polite, sweet and rough, correct or incorrect; my voice, loud and soft; all my actions, whether they be to others or myself.

I own my fantasies, my dreams, my hopes, my fears. I own my triumphs and successes, and all my failures and mistakes.

Because I own all of me, I can become intimately aquainted with me. By doing so, I can love me and be friendly with me in all my parts. I can then make it possible for all of me to work in my best interests.

I know that there are aspects about myself that puzzle me, and other aspects that I do not know. But as long as I am friendly and loving to myself, I can courageously and hopefully look for the solutions to the puzzles and for to find out more about me.

However I look and sound, whatever I say and do, and whatever I think and feel at a given moment in time is me. This is authentic and represents where I am at that moment in time.

When I review later how I looked and sounded, what I said and did, and how I thought and felt, some parts may turn out to be unfitting, and keep that which proved fitting, and invent something new for that which I discarded.

I can see, hear, feel, think, say and do. I have the tools to survive, to be close to others, to be productive, to make sense and order out of the world of people and things outside of me.

I own me and therefore I can engineer me. I am me and I am okay.

Bang smack instead

Booze and blow work in the very short term but unfortunately will lead to an even worse down turn.

1. stop drinking

2. get out of the house

3. do some exercise, walking, anything

4. and yeah if you have to have a crutch stick to the alcohol and don't add drugs into things if you are feeling average about shit

nice one man, made a little text file out of that one :thumbsup

Not with depression. They can make anxiety and panic attacks worse.

Personally I think its impossible to have a bad experience on mushrooms if you're in nature. If you're in a city, ummm yeah not a good idea.

Anti-depressants have helped millions of people with mental disorders. I know a lot of people they have helped. In fact I know many people that work in adult that have been helped. They all seem to be taking Paxil or Prozac. They may not work for everyone, but to state they help no one is silly.

If your friend gets anxiety while on an SSRI, he should talk to his doctor. Anxiety is a listed side effect. I took Paxil and it worked well for me for my panic attacks. Only take meds when nothing else has worked. They are a bitch to get off of. :2 cents:

Im bipolar. A nice cocktail of anti depresants, anti psychotics and mood stabalyzers will usually keep me on an even keel.

Alchol makes me do crazy things and I crash badly the next day but I still drink I find people are much more interesting when I drink.


Sabby:)

:thumbsup

Juicing lots of veggies on a daily basis saved me :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Booze is a depressant you need cocaine.

funny how drugs and alcohol always help.. :thumbsup