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Robocrop 04-06-2010 08:17 AM

Enough is enough, affiliates STEP INSIDE!
 
Alright, first we got AWE...doing their thing, NA cease the moment and throws a "killing the affiliate" parade, now NastyDollars cannot float on the illegal tubes pushing Fling.com so they call NA and ask what the best way to snatch domains would be.


I wonder how many more programs will follow the parade, but most of all..how many affiliates will stand up for the case and how many will be pussys and push over the domains to what's NOT the rightful owners.

Any sponsor program telling me that they want a domain, can suck my dick...thanks!

So stand up for the cause, its not like they can/will sue 100+ affiliates.

Fuck the shady fuckers :mad:

If you stand up for the cause, say ay in this tread and keep bumping it for the greater good of God.

mikeyddddd 04-06-2010 08:20 AM


pradaboy 04-06-2010 08:24 AM

If they do not even own the trademarks for the domains they do not have a strong case.

BTW could someone post the e-mail they sent?

Barefootsies 04-06-2010 08:25 AM

Bumparooski 4 the Cause
 

EscortBiz 04-06-2010 08:26 AM

seriously i dont give a shit, if you send me traffic use whatever name u want that i own

TeenCat 04-06-2010 08:31 AM

i will be just using serps from sponsors that dont like me to promote sponsors that have no problem with my hard made seo traffic

SEO Expert 04-06-2010 08:32 AM

just send your sales someplace else

munki 04-06-2010 08:35 AM

Stop complaining, and learn how to do some credible promotions outside of the realm of cheap misspell/redirect tricks capitalizing on other peoples hardwork and your abilities to take advantage. Don't start getting pissy because people protect the trademarks and brandnames they've put actual work into.

Just my 2 cents.

TeenCat 04-06-2010 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009823)
Stop complaining, and learn how to do some credible promotions outside of the realm of cheap misspell/redirect tricks capitalizing on other peoples hardwork and your abilities to take advantage. Don't start getting pissy because people protect the trademarks and brandnames they've put actual work into.

Just my 2 cents.

man but something else is doing redirects and something else is making seo sites to get ranked better than all that free forums and tube sites :2 cents:

munki 04-06-2010 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 17009830)
man but something else is doing redirects and something else is making seo sites to get ranked better than all that free forums and tube sites :2 cents:

Don't build an "se" site reliant on others trademarks or brands for search volume... :2 cents:

It's rather shortsighted anyways...

pradaboy 04-06-2010 08:39 AM

btw what kind of domains does this concern, blatant typos?

darksoul 04-06-2010 08:53 AM

speak with your traffic.

TeenCat 04-06-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009835)
Don't build an "se" site reliant on others trademarks or brands for search volume... :2 cents:

It's rather shortsighted anyways...

its like saying "i am selling cars" and not "i am selling volvo" ... if i am selling volvo i cannot say that i am selling just cars or i will have no volvo sales

Caligari 04-06-2010 09:08 AM

then domain name parodies will have to work "Not Nasty Dollars XXX"

pradaboy 04-06-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 17009915)
its like saying "i am selling cars" and not "i am selling volvo" ... if i am selling volvo i cannot say that i am selling just cars or i will have no volvo sales

That's a poor example, a Volvo dealer is licensed to sell Volvo cars.

munki 04-06-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 17009915)
its like saying "i am selling cars" and not "i am selling volvo" ... if i am selling volvo i cannot say that i am selling just cars or i will have no volvo sales

But you don't get to throw a Volvo dealer sign on your business because you have one Volvo on the lot... Some companies are smart enough to protect their brand and its implied or explicit usage. Most of the offname, typo'd, or tm/brand variation names are blatant attempts to thin out what would otherwise be solid traffic sources for sites that have put a lot of time and effort into building.

pradaboy 04-06-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009940)
But you don't get to throw a Volvo dealer sign on your business because you have one Volvo on the lot... Some companies are smart enough to protect their brand and its implied or explicit usage. Most of the offname, typo'd, or tm/brand variation names are blatant attempts to thin out what would otherwise be solid traffic sources for sites that have put a lot of time and effort into building.

While I understand your point, the fact that these domains remain unregistered speaks against them. If ND do not register bignatural.com that traffic will be wasted forever. If an affiliate is smart enough to pick it up and forward it through his linking code ND still wins, because they get the sales minus the PPS for the affiliate instead of no sales at all.

(example can be used for any typo)

munki 04-06-2010 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy (Post 17009969)
While I understand your point, the fact that these domains remain unregistered speaks against them. If ND do not register bignatural.com that traffic will be wasted forever. If an affiliate is smart enough to pick it up and forward it through his linking code ND still wins, because they get the sales minus the PPS for the affiliate instead of no sales at all.

(example can be used for any typo)

That's throwing a lot of variables at a situation that shouldn't exist in the first place. Traffic wasn't going to an un-regged typo domain until someone regged, and seo'd it to get some results flowing... Ultimately those results that never should've been end up taking money away from the programs who would've had an organic or se join otherwise, and time and effort has to be spent to return the domain to TM/Brand owner and ultimately redirected until the traffic source is once again non existent and the original brand can recover from having its results obfuscated and dilluted.

andrej_NDC 04-06-2010 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009823)
Stop complaining, and learn how to do some credible promotions outside of the realm of cheap misspell/redirect tricks capitalizing on other peoples hardwork and your abilities to take advantage. Don't start getting pissy because people protect the trademarks and brandnames they've put actual work into.

Just my 2 cents.

How is it not credible? The sponsors can do it by themselfs...they can buy all the domains they want. Just because they don't want to or are too stupid to do it, they can't blame the affiliates for doing it later. I say fuck them, too.

tonyparra 04-06-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009987)
That's throwing a lot of variables at a situation that shouldn't exist in the first place. Traffic wasn't going to an un-regged typo domain until someone regged, and seo'd it to get some results flowing... Ultimately those results that never should've been end up taking money away from the programs who would've had an organic or se join otherwise, and time and effort has to be spent to return the domain to TM/Brand owner and ultimately redirected until the traffic source is once again non existent and the original brand can recover from having its results obfuscated and dilluted.

that is wrong. sorry. use google.

pradaboy 04-06-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009987)
That's throwing a lot of variables at a situation that shouldn't exist in the first place. Traffic wasn't going to an un-regged typo domain until someone regged, and seo'd it to get some results flowing... Ultimately those results that never should've been end up taking money away from the programs who would've had an organic or se join otherwise, and time and effort has to be spent to return the domain to TM/Brand owner and ultimately redirected until the traffic source is once again non existent and the original brand can recover from having its results obfuscated and dilluted.

Of course the traffic exists even when the domain is unregged. SEO has nothing to do with it. People type-in a domain name to reach that website, this has nothing to do with search engines. How do you know that someone typing in a non-existing website will eventually end up at the one they intended in the first place? You don't.

Si 04-06-2010 09:40 AM

Fuck 'em

Robocrop 04-06-2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009823)
Stop complaining, and learn how to do some credible promotions outside of the realm of cheap misspell/redirect tricks capitalizing on other peoples hardwork and your abilities to take advantage. Don't start getting pissy because people protect the trademarks and brandnames they've put actual work into.

Just my 2 cents.


So by exercising common knowledge to gain traffic for your sponsor is stealing from them or what are you exactly saying? I dont claim to BE the company I push traffic to, I just make sure to send them from every fucking source there is to make them + myself a richer man.

If they arent happy with that, well fine sue me.

SEO Expert 04-06-2010 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009987)
That's throwing a lot of variables at a situation that shouldn't exist in the first place. Traffic wasn't going to an un-regged typo domain until someone regged, and seo'd it to get some results flowing... Ultimately those results that never should've been end up taking money away from the programs who would've had an organic or se join otherwise, and time and effort has to be spent to return the domain to TM/Brand owner and ultimately redirected until the traffic source is once again non existent and the original brand can recover from having its results obfuscated and dilluted.

You are a fucking idiot.

seeandsee 04-06-2010 10:32 AM

if you promote their programs and they were taking your traffic for ages then dont ask domains

BFT3K 04-06-2010 10:37 AM

I don't think it is right for affiliates (or even non-affiliates) to register variations of your domain name(s) under the guise that they are simply promoting YOUR program, because within no time they are either blatantly dropping you from the pages, or at the very least, adding other sponsors.

How is that fair to the program owner? Why should a network of multiple sites be forced to register each site sixteen ways from Sunday, just to keep leaches from stealing their SE traffic?

This industry really needs some business ethics, but as that will never happen, I guess everyone is just out to fuck everyone else it seems. Of course there is no future in destroying your own industry in the long run, but I suppose whatever you can grab today is all that matters... just sucks!

TeenCat 04-06-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy (Post 17009929)
That's a poor example, a Volvo dealer is licensed to sell Volvo cars.

if i register as affiliate to sponsor, i am licensed to sell their sites. i am always promoting only site that fits the domain. maybe thats why naughty america is still ok with me, and i hope and believe that nastydollars will end the same. but its not everyones case, thats for sure

SRT8 04-06-2010 10:55 AM

its all bullshit and anyone siding with these sponsors pulling shady shit are the ones who say sponsors dont shave. get fucking real. less money more greed. cut out paying the affiliate more money for them. end of fucking story. if you are selling their sites there should be no reason u cant target terms to get traffic for those keywords... how else you expect to get sales these days? how about instead steal their content and make huge tubes with their content and send traffic to dating sponsor. see if they like that.

who says its their SE traffic? are you nuts? thats the whole affiliate model.. its just being killed slowly. they have their main domain to get rank #1 they have the money to pay SEO guy to do so. if not their fucking loss. now all SE traffic is suddenly theres? then dont accept affiliates if you dont want any SE traffic from sites that are promoting your program and making you money.

SRT8 04-06-2010 10:57 AM

also they already put a stop to PPC thats pure targetted SE traffic they rank #1 for and get all traffic... everything else should be fair game. they are not playing fair now

SRT8 04-06-2010 10:59 AM

munki go fuck yourself you big ear faggot

SRT8 04-06-2010 11:01 AM

these programs dont own the SEs. they already get the PPC traffic for exact terms and any other relevant terms. What good is affiliates now anyways if they dont want people getting SE traffic to promote their sites. they got beat at their own game and got mad so they pulled a fast one and took their loyal affiliates and shit all over them.

SRT8 04-06-2010 11:04 AM

its only the people that buy drinks and the bros that are siding with people pulling shit like this. they should of never let anyone register a domain since way back when.. no they waited till the period was almost over then sent out that email and gave people 3 days to respond or else lose all funds and account. yeah thanks ND, great way to say a big fuck you for making you money all these years.

munki 04-06-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17010230)
You are a fucking idiot.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sly 04-06-2010 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 17009823)
Stop complaining, and learn how to do some credible promotions outside of the realm of cheap misspell/redirect tricks capitalizing on other peoples hardwork and your abilities to take advantage. Don't start getting pissy because people protect the trademarks and brandnames they've put actual work into.

Just my 2 cents.

What is the difference between ranking: paysiteiscool.com and ranking randomdomain.com/paysite or paysite.randomdomain.com ?

Furthermore, I ask sponsors to think of this... go to Google and type in your pay site name. Would you rather see 100 listings of sites with silly domains and 10 free pics promoting you? Or 100 listings of message boards, torrent directories, and tube sites giving away full length videos?

u-Bob 04-06-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17010492)
What is the difference between ranking: paysiteiscool.com and ranking randomdomain.com/paysite or paysite.randomdomain.com ?

Furthermore, I ask sponsors to think of this... go to Google and type in your pay site name. Would you rather see 100 listings of sites with silly domains and 10 free pics promoting you? Or 100 listings of message boards, torrent directories, and tube sites giving away full length videos?

q f t

SRT8 04-06-2010 12:15 PM

its really fucked up and top bucks is getting all my traffic from now on. good looking TB!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 17010594)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17010761)
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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17010779)
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SEO Expert 04-06-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRT8 (Post 17010336)
these programs dont own the SEs. they already get the PPC traffic for exact terms and any other relevant terms. What good is affiliates now anyways if they dont want people getting SE traffic to promote their sites. they got beat at their own game and got mad so they pulled a fast one and took their loyal affiliates and shit all over them.

If someone pulled shit like that on me, I would take their search terms like "naughty america", rank it for top spots and then send the traffic to competitors.

(that's regarding SE though, not talking about domain squatting here - it's stupid anyway)

SRT8 04-06-2010 02:49 PM

domain squatting is defined how? whats wrong with having realitykingstgp.com if you are strictly promoting realitykings and not using their members area content or full movies or anything shady? it helps sell their site better too. thats domain squatting?

GrouchyAdmin 04-06-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SRT8 (Post 17011134)
domain squatting is defined how? whats wrong with having realitykingstgp.com if you are strictly promoting realitykings and not using their members area content or full movies or anything shady? it helps sell their site better too. thats domain squatting?

It's a common 'I spend $10 on something and link to you to get $100 PPS off of content that cost you over $20,000 to produce' practice. I think both sides are kind of at fault for that.

Robocrop 04-06-2010 03:59 PM

Some good responses in this thread, I think Sly kinda nailed it tho..thanks dude

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SRT8 04-06-2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 17011272)
It's a common 'I spend $10 on something and link to you to get $100 PPS off of content that cost you over $20,000 to produce' practice. I think both sides are kind of at fault for that.

you lost me. everyday is 100pps? how does that have anything to do with a domain?

The Sultan Of Smut 04-06-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop (Post 17011347)
Some good responses in this thread, I think Sly kinda nailed it tho..thanks dude

I agree and I don't know why everyone complains as long as they pay you out you can take your traffic elsewhere. Sponsors are dime a dozen and besides I've noticed that smaller programs often have better micro niche targeted sites anyway.

RayBonga 04-06-2010 04:46 PM

can someone post a specific example of a domain that caused this kind of trouble with nastydollars? I'm curious about what exactly they are doing.

GrouchyAdmin 04-06-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SRT8 (Post 17011425)
you lost me. everyday is 100pps? how does that have anything to do with a domain?

Quite simple.

Program pays $20,000 (less/more) to create not only content, but a brandable site.

You spend $10 to 'take' that name and redirect it to them.

Sometimes they get pissed and want it back. Kind of a bitch move on both parts.


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