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Oracle Porn 04-29-2010 03:32 PM

Legal tubes monetization
 
Looking for "experts" in tube traffic monetization
icq me

lazycash 04-29-2010 03:37 PM

Does it differ from illegal tube monetization?

halfpint 04-29-2010 03:41 PM

if you have your own content and not affiliate content and want a gateway Have a look at

Adult Access Now

traffic: youtube, dailymotion, plugs, forums, chatr... u know the rest

Oracle Porn 04-29-2010 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17087769)
Does it differ from illegal tube monetization?

maybe the "experts" can explain? :P

Barefootsies 04-29-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17087769)
Does it differ from illegal tube monetization?

:1orglaugh

I doubt, even if there were an expert, they would wanna put a big bull's eye on them.

However, maybe O.P. will get lucky privately via ICQ.

Jack Sparrow 04-29-2010 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17087769)
Does it differ from illegal tube monetization?

Yes it does, and "experts" that have experience running huge legal tubes will know.:2 cents:

Oracle Porn 04-30-2010 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17088834)
Yes it does, and "experts" that have experience running huge legal tubes will know.:2 cents:

by your comment I guess you consider yourself an "expert"?

BIGTYMER 04-30-2010 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17087782)
if you have your own content and not affiliate content and want a gateway Have a look at

Adult Access Now

traffic: youtube, dailymotion, plugs, forums, chatr... u know the rest

How does ACN work? Any example pages? I don't see anything.

Jack Sparrow 04-30-2010 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17089004)
by your comment I guess you consider yourself an "expert"?

I have been running legal tubes for some time now. From tubes doing 30-140k up to tubes doing 100k-120k of PURE seach engine traffic that did an easy $40k-$60k a month when i monitized them (admanagement/seo/etc).

Im not sure if I should call myself an expert. Others that know what i do may decide :thumbsup

Oracle Porn 04-30-2010 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17089074)
I have been running legal tubes for some time now. From tubes doing 30-140k up to tubes doing 100k-120k of PURE seach engine traffic that did an easy $40k-$60k a month when i monitized them (admanagement/seo/etc).

Im not sure if I should call myself an expert. Others that know what i do may decide :thumbsup

is one click tube what you consider to be properly monetized?

seeandsee 04-30-2010 03:33 AM

just take full cash from tube, shit out your traffic for future

Jack Sparrow 04-30-2010 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17089080)
is one click tube what you consider to be properly monetized?

No it isnt, thats why i might be selling it. My company is focussing on other areas and i have my reasons. Even without managing it like it should its still raking in a lot of money, and thats without advertising it. Hell, im even offering afspace there for free for some people starting up their new sites.

Btw i wasnt talking about oneclicktube.

Oracle Porn 04-30-2010 03:52 AM

well you "advertised" it heavily on gfy and also have the logo as your avatar so I just thought.....my bad

halfpint 04-30-2010 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17089057)
How does ACN work? Any example pages? I don't see anything.

You can use it in conjuction with a pay tube site or any other pay site It acts like a payment gateway.

You put a widget on the site
You set the amount of tease time before it pops up and locks the content. Or you can just have a link that your users click on as an alternative to paying by credit card. Instead they just have to fill in a survey.
You can set the amount of hours or day that users have access to your content before they have to fill out another survey

You get paid for every completed survey They pay out anything from $0.30 up to $11.00 now. You can set which surveys you want shown on the popup based on your EPC (earnings per click) Countrys your traffic is comming from, ect


If you want to see a working example hit me up on ICQ (its in my profile)

dropped9 04-30-2010 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17089074)
I have been running legal tubes for some time now. From tubes doing 30-140k up to tubes doing 100k-120k of PURE seach engine traffic that did an easy $40k-$60k a month when i monitized them (admanagement/seo/etc).

Im not sure if I should call myself an expert. Others that know what i do may decide :thumbsup

If true, those numbers are really impressive.

May I ask, did you use a custom tube script or off the shelf solution?

Oracle Porn 04-30-2010 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17089074)
I have been running legal tubes for some time now. From tubes doing 30-140k up to tubes doing 100k-120k of PURE seach engine traffic that did an easy $40k-$60k a month when i monitized them (admanagement/seo/etc).

Im not sure if I should call myself an expert. Others that know what i do may decide :thumbsup

p.s. I call bullshit on $40k on a 120k tube site with PURE SE traffic

GTS Mark 04-30-2010 06:26 AM

Give us a shout, we can help.

Jack Sparrow 04-30-2010 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 17089240)
If true, those numbers are really impressive.

May I ask, did you use a custom tube script or off the shelf solution?

It was a custom tube script, honestly, a very poor one. A new one has been build and should be in place now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17089245)
p.s. I call bullshit on $40k on a 120k tube site with PURE SE traffic

You can call it what you like. People that REALLY know me know what site it was i was managing/monitizing. Its not something i have to "prove". You not believing me is fine with me. :winkwink:

dropped9 04-30-2010 10:24 AM

I think I have the perfect tube domain

Agent 488 04-30-2010 10:29 AM

freeporn.com?

dropped9 04-30-2010 10:36 AM

Lol no....

Oracle Porn 04-30-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17090025)
It was a custom tube script, honestly, a very poor one. A new one has been build and should be in place now.



You can call it what you like. People that REALLY know me know what site it was i was managing/monitizing. Its not something i have to "prove". You not believing me is fine with me. :winkwink:

thats what I thought

Jack Sparrow 04-30-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17090329)
thats what I thought

Good, glad we can agree on something :winkwink:

Naechy 04-30-2010 03:40 PM

You put a widget on the site, yes yes

Agent 488 04-30-2010 04:47 PM

really doubt freeporn.com was making 40k a month.

harvey 04-30-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17087769)
Does it differ from illegal tube monetization?

a lot. you're talking day and night here. for starters, unless you're investing huge amounts of money in content, you're left with only sponsors vids. This will affect traffic, bounce rate, conversions and also leaves you with less options. However, if properly done, some people is able to make more off this kind of traffic than with long videos. Then you have upgrades, premium members areas, freedom of using any kind of promotion you want, and so on. As sad as it sounds, one of the reasons for people to go with illegal content tubes is because content is free AND they can monetize it better on top of that

harvey 04-30-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17087782)
if you have your own content and not affiliate content and want a gateway Have a look at

Adult Access Now

traffic: youtube, dailymotion, plugs, forums, chatr... u know the rest

no info at all in their site and they want me to give people access to premium areas while they charge the user or get money from sponsors? wait..... then why don't I charge them or get the money MYSELF? :helpme

IllTestYourGirls 04-30-2010 06:17 PM

Hey Frisky hit me up about OneClickTube.

Jack Sparrow 05-01-2010 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17091739)
really doubt freeporn.com was making 40k a month.

You doubting it doesnt make much difference. No offense, but people doubting anything without seeing stats etc. are mostly doubting things based on nothing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17091978)
Hey Frisky hit me up about OneClickTube.

Will do later on bro!

Oracle Porn 05-01-2010 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17092711)
You doubting it doesnt make much difference. No offense, but people doubting anything without seeing stats etc. are mostly doubting things based on nothing.



Will do later on bro!

is freeporn.com the monetization you were talking about? wetdollars/sexsearch/celebsonly?

LoveSandra 05-01-2010 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17087769)
Does it differ from illegal tube monetization?

:2 cents::thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

redwhiteandblue 05-01-2010 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17089245)
p.s. I call bullshit on $40k on a 120k tube site with PURE SE traffic

If he's talking 120k/day then at a CTR of 10% and earning $0.10/click it adds up.

halfpint 05-01-2010 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 17091926)
no info at all in their site and they want me to give people access to premium areas while they charge the user or get money from sponsors? wait..... then why don't I charge them or get the money MYSELF? :helpme

What on earth are you tralking about ? Have you even tried it out ? You get paid for the surveys... Its a way to make money without the surfer having to pull out his credit card.

These are earnings taken from the chat

has earned $31.00 so far today with 5 leads and 240 clicks.

has earned $24.80 so far today with 4 leads and 173 clicks.

has earned $31.31 so far today with 5 leads and 38 clicks

The mainstream version has over 50k publishers and this adult one is new so they must be doing something right ?

Log into the site even if you dont want to try it out and you will see exactly what I mean

Oracle Porn 05-01-2010 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 17092820)
If he's talking 120k/day then at a CTR of 10% and earning $0.10/click it adds up.

everything is so easy in THEORY!

12k clicks from tube to sponsor give you a beer and a slice of pizza, 2 slices if u are lucky

redwhiteandblue 05-01-2010 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17092843)
everything is so easy in THEORY!

12k clicks from tube to sponsor give you a beer and a slice of pizza, 2 slices if u are lucky

OK. Those ratios match my own for one specific niche but on a much smaller scale so probably doesn't count.. Nah fuck it, tube traffic sucks.

Jack Sparrow 05-01-2010 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 17092820)
If he's talking 120k/day then at a CTR of 10% and earning $0.10/click it adds up.

And that would be a low estimate. :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17092843)
everything is so easy in THEORY!

12k clicks from tube to sponsor give you a beer and a slice of pizza, 2 slices if u are lucky

Shows how much of a clue you have. None.
Sorry dude, but you seem to think that anything with the word TUBE in it must suck. Hate to break it to you, but it doesnt.

Much more involving factors.. not even going to explain. I thought you wanted to learn something but you dont obviously.

redwhiteandblue 05-01-2010 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17092920)
Sorry dude, but you seem to think that anything with the word TUBE in it must suck. Hate to break it to you, but it doesnt.

Much more involving factors.. not even going to explain. I thought you wanted to learn something but you dont obviously.

Do you think it's best to have the word "tube" in your domain or not? Or doesn't matter?

Jack Sparrow 05-01-2010 05:02 AM

It doesnt matter much.
Actually you are better of with a good keyworddomain.

Davy 05-01-2010 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17092840)
so they must be doing something right ?

The homepage is under construction.
The application timed out because the google api was not responding...
They should be doing something better.

TheDoc 05-01-2010 05:51 AM

While I don't own a legal tube worth two shits..... I help with a couple people that are a bit bigger than two shits.

Research your titles before you create them to find subjects people already search for and/or a power term that produces money too. This way you're not targeting free loaders that have already been circle jerked for an hour already that aren't going to ever buy.

And host your own geoip banners to keep the speed up on the ads and site.

All I can think of at 6am on a Sat morning.

Oracle Porn 05-01-2010 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17092920)
And that would be a low estimate. :thumbsup



Shows how much of a clue you have. None.
Sorry dude, but you seem to think that anything with the word TUBE in it must suck. Hate to break it to you, but it doesnt.

Much more involving factors.. not even going to explain. I thought you wanted to learn something but you dont obviously.

you can talk the talk I give you that.
Learn, lol. like you've given any value to this thread other then chit chat. People hit me up on icq cuz of this thread to tell me you are full of shit lol.

dropped9 05-01-2010 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17092920)
And that would be a low estimate. :thumbsup



Shows how much of a clue you have. None.
Sorry dude, but you seem to think that anything with the word TUBE in it must suck. Hate to break it to you, but it doesnt.

Much more involving factors.. not even going to explain. I thought you wanted to learn something but you dont obviously.

I'm all ears. Please explain.

Jack Sparrow 05-01-2010 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17093015)
you can talk the talk I give you that.
Learn, lol. like you've given any value to this thread other then chit chat. People hit me up on icq cuz of this thread to tell me you are full of shit lol.

Oh really. Ask them how they know me or what i did or still do.
Or even better, tell us who these "people" are.

I bet you cant come up with one decent name. It will be "i respect their privacy im not gonna tell" bullshit lol.

Next thing will be you asking for screenshots of proof huh? :)

Why do i even care? Its fun to see people like you asking for advice then going in rantmode when you have the possibilty to talk to someone whos primary biz has been tubes :)

halfpint 05-01-2010 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17092980)
The homepage is under construction.
The application timed out because the google api was not responding...
They should be doing something better.

Its just over a month old, give them some time and it will be the same as cpalead which makes a lot of people a lot of money

xp-ViT 05-01-2010 09:20 AM

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stever 05-01-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17093248)
Oh really. Ask them how they know me or what i did or still do.
Or even better, tell us who these "people" are.

I bet you cant come up with one decent name. It will be "i respect their privacy im not gonna tell" bullshit lol.

Next thing will be you asking for screenshots of proof huh? :)

Why do i even care? Its fun to see people like you asking for advice then going in rantmode when you have the possibilty to talk to someone whos primary biz has been tubes :)

hey mrfrisky im just curious nothing more

but most tubes i see have very aggressive ads pops/player/hover banners/etc

but im not seeing any of that on the site in question so just wondering if you changed this recently or if it is still being monetized the same way as always?

wouldnt that more aggressive approach generate more CTR and more money?

Choker 05-01-2010 10:23 AM

The days of making a tube site throwing a little traffic at it and getting massive bookies is over. Unless you have deep pockets I would not even consider a tube site at this point. If however you have a paysite program and own your own content a legal tube is the way to go. It's very hard to squeeze a profit out of a legal tube site unless your a program owner and use your own movies to upsell to your paysite and advertise dating sites on it also. And if your thinking of using less than full length movies on a tube site your just gonna waste a lot of time and money for nothing. Program owners using their content to advertise products other than just thier paysites are making money with tube sites.

Jack Sparrow 05-01-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17093635)
The days of making a tube site throwing a little traffic at it and getting massive bookies is over. Unless you have deep pockets I would not even consider a tube site at this point. If however you have a paysite program and own your own content a legal tube is the way to go. It's very hard to squeeze a profit out of a legal tube site unless your a program owner and use your own movies to upsell to your paysite and advertise dating sites on it also. And if your thinking of using less than full length movies on a tube site your just gonna waste a lot of time and money for nothing. Program owners using their content to advertise products other than just thier paysites are making money with tube sites.

Exactly!!:thumbsup

halfpint 05-01-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17093635)
The days of making a tube site throwing a little traffic at it and getting massive bookies is over. Unless you have deep pockets I would not even consider a tube site at this point. If however you have a paysite program and own your own content a legal tube is the way to go. It's very hard to squeeze a profit out of a legal tube site unless your a program owner and use your own movies to upsell to your paysite and advertise dating sites on it also. And if your thinking of using less than full length movies on a tube site your just gonna waste a lot of time and money for nothing. Program owners using their content to advertise products other than just thier paysites are making money with tube sites.

I am seeing a niche tube site that only offers 2-3 min movies as teasers and they have a members area which offers the full length movies whith both credit card access and a free survey access I know he is making $$ cause I referred him and I am also making $$ from it.

So in one way yes you need full length movies but you can still only offer teasers as an incentive to a members area with a tube site

harvey 05-01-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17092840)
What on earth are you tralking about ? Have you even tried it out ? You get paid for the surveys... Its a way to make money without the surfer having to pull out his credit card.

These are earnings taken from the chat

has earned $31.00 so far today with 5 leads and 240 clicks.

has earned $24.80 so far today with 4 leads and 173 clicks.

has earned $31.31 so far today with 5 leads and 38 clicks

The mainstream version has over 50k publishers and this adult one is new so they must be doing something right ?

Log into the site even if you dont want to try it out and you will see exactly what I mean

man, sorry, they can be the sweetest thing on Earth, but if they can't even hire someone to finish their own site, then that rings a bell. Seriously. Either they don't give a fuck, either they don't have the money to pay. And I still don't know why should I give people access to a premium area worth tens of dollars a month in exchange of a few cents. And since I don't see them explaining why should I do it..... simple maths.

And comparing them to cpalead.com and mainstream traffic.... sorry, but if you can't see the differences, then I don't even know what to say. For starters, traffic is absolutely different. Getting 10 cents from Google Ads or Chitika or whatever or getting those 10 cents from cpalead makes no difference.

the fact that Adult Access Now claims to be part of cpalead.com yet their whois don't match and cpalead.com says nothing about this relationship is weird to say the least. The differences about both sites (barring the logo) are day and night. And the list goes on and on and on

Again, not saying they can't be legit, it's just that they failed miserably in building any credibility and simple logic tells me I should be crazy if I go $30 recurring value in exchange of a few cents. Simple maths.


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