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Fat Panda 05-07-2010 07:09 AM

Thank you Nasty Dollars...
 
...your $100 promo yesterday fucking rocked. Looking forward to today!

http://www.naughtyjulieblog.com/nd.gif

TrainWreckContent 05-07-2010 07:10 AM

why cant there be more positive threads like this....way to go sac and nasty dollars :thumbsup

Andy CHOOPA 05-07-2010 07:11 AM

Nice work :)

seeandsee 05-07-2010 07:13 AM

Sweet payout

TeenCat 05-07-2010 07:24 AM

yeah i got two sales also i am a happy guy :)

EthnicLover 05-07-2010 07:25 AM

That is downright Naaasty!

yuu.design 05-07-2010 07:30 AM

lucky guy!

Vendzilla 05-07-2010 07:46 AM

Way to go

Jake 05-07-2010 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 17117349)
...your $100 promo yesterday fucking rocked. Looking forward to today!

http://www.naughtyjulieblog.com/nd.gif

So let me know when you'll be sending our share of those sales you generated to NastyDollars yesterday. Julie would like her cut and as the program owner I would also like mine.

1. I see that you posted your NastyDollars stats screenshot to http://www.naughtyjulieblog.com/nd.gif.

2. You're quite obviously using her branded name as your URL http://www.naughtyjulieblog.com to generate traffic and then send it off to sponsor sites unrelated to NaughtyJulie or NaughtyBank.

3. You have lifted the actual header graphic directly from her site http://www.naughtyjulie.com/1/ for use on your "blog".

4. You're using a large amount of her content to generate traffic and then siphon it off to another sponsor program.

I most likely would not have made an issue out of any single one of the above items however all 4 items together and the fact that you've got the audacity to post your NastyDollars screen shot to this forum on a domain that capitalizes on our branding efforts and Julie's content is just a bit too much!

That's really great for NastyDollars that you sent them 8 sales yesterday using Julie's branded name and content but since you sent exactly 0 sales to NaughtyJulie it's not such a great deal for us now is it? Hit me up asap to let me know when I should expect my share of your NastyDollars profits and we'll also discuss your use of naughtyjulieblog.com going forward.

Grisey 05-07-2010 08:13 AM

3 yesterday was expecting about 6 so a lil disapointed, but 3 already today

Grisey 05-07-2010 08:21 AM

SAC seems you just lost your blog,

But i see 3 links at the very top and webcam thumbs thats it, so jake i see him pushing julie allover the blog and a few other sponsors to fill gaps, i see nothing wrong with that.

Grisey 05-07-2010 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 17117490)
That's really great for NastyDollars that you sent them 8 sales yesterday using Julie's branded name and content but since you sent exactly 0 sales to NaughtyJulie it's not such a great deal for us now is it? Hit me up asap to let me know when I should expect my share of your NastyDollars profits and we'll also discuss your use of naughtyjulieblog.com going forward.

You honestly belive 1 link to RK sent 463 hits and 8 sales from that blog ?

That would mean the blog gets 0000's of hits a day and you probally get daily sales from it.

Jake 05-07-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grisey (Post 17117507)
SAC seems you just lost your blog,

But i see 3 links at the very top and webcam thumbs thats it, so jake i see him pushing julie allover the blog and a few other sponsors to fill gaps, i see nothing wrong with that.

So it's ok if I just put up 3 links to other sponsor programs in our tours and not compensate the affiliate for sales I make to those programs from the traffic that they send to our sites? "nothing wrong with that", right?

Cyber Fucker 05-07-2010 08:31 AM

hot promo :pimp

Barefootsies 05-07-2010 08:32 AM

Hot promo, nice conversions.

alias 05-07-2010 08:39 AM

http://www.naughtyjulie.com/1/images...ader_crzda.jpg

Shitty header, if he gives you a % are you going to spend it on design?

BSleazy 05-07-2010 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 17117490)
So let me know when you'll be sending our share of those sales you generated to NastyDollars yesterday. Julie would like her cut and as the program owner I would also like mine.

1. I see that you posted your NastyDollars stats screenshot to http://www.naughtyjulieblog.com/nd.gif.

2. You're quite obviously using her branded name as your URL http://www.naughtyjulieblog.com to generate traffic and then send it off to sponsor sites unrelated to NaughtyJulie or NaughtyBank.

3. You have lifted the actual header graphic directly from her site http://www.naughtyjulie.com/1/ for use on your "blog".

4. You're using a large amount of her content to generate traffic and then siphon it off to another sponsor program.

I most likely would not have made an issue out of any single one of the above items however all 4 items together and the fact that you've got the audacity to post your NastyDollars screen shot to this forum on a domain that capitalizes on our branding efforts and Julie's content is just a bit too much!

That's really great for NastyDollars that you sent them 8 sales yesterday using Julie's branded name and content but since you sent exactly 0 sales to NaughtyJulie it's not such a great deal for us now is it? Hit me up asap to let me know when I should expect my share of your NastyDollars profits and we'll also discuss your use of naughtyjulieblog.com going forward.

I dont see a problem. That blog is mainly pushing your site. Just a few small links to other sites....and I highly doubt those ND sales cam from that blog.

Jake 05-07-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 17117597)
I dont see a problem. That blog is mainly pushing your site. Just a few small links to other sites....and I highly doubt those ND sales cam from that blog.

I'm glad you feel that way, so then I'm sure you wouldn't "see a problem" with me adding links in our affiliate tours to other programs then, right? Last time I checked that was called a "traffic leak". It honestly don't get the double standard. Affiliates freak out and programs get slammed if tours have a single link to another sponsor or an alternate billing processor, etc. However it's perfectly ok for an affiliate to use a sponsors branded name for their domain and the sponsors content to send traffic from that site (the sponsors branded domain and the sponsors content) to an unrelated sponsor. The mentality of some people in this industry never ceases to amaze me.

alias 05-07-2010 09:23 AM

No such thing as an affiliate traffic leak, choose your weapon man.

Jake 05-07-2010 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17117556)
http://www.naughtyjulie.com/1/images...ader_crzda.jpg

Shitty header, if he gives you a % are you going to spend it on design?

Not that this thread has anything to do with the "quality" of the header design but please feel free to hit me up with your design critique when you've built a site that consistently generates 7 figures in annual revenue year after year after year.

fatfoo 05-07-2010 09:33 AM

Congratulations, SAC and $100 promo at Nasty Dollars.

Grisey 05-07-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 17117531)
So it's ok if I just put up 3 links to other sponsor programs in our tours and not compensate the affiliate for sales I make to those programs from the traffic that they send to our sites? "nothing wrong with that", right?

Now your taking it out of context

Ie the affiliate sends you a sale therefore hes entiled to a % of your members area upsells, from the sales he sends you.

Fat Panda 05-07-2010 10:09 AM

Wow, didn't expect this thread to turn out like this...Jake contacting you now on ICQ...

BabeHunter 05-07-2010 10:38 AM

i was never able to make sales on promo days :(

SmokeyTheBear 05-07-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 17117646)
I'm glad you feel that way, so then I'm sure you wouldn't "see a problem" with me adding links in our affiliate tours to other programs then, right? Last time I checked that was called a "traffic leak". It honestly don't get the double standard. Affiliates freak out and programs get slammed if tours have a single link to another sponsor or an alternate billing processor, etc. However it's perfectly ok for an affiliate to use a sponsors branded name for their domain and the sponsors content to send traffic from that site (the sponsors branded domain and the sponsors content) to an unrelated sponsor. The mentality of some people in this industry never ceases to amaze me.

sorry i have to say that i dont see a problem with the scenario you posted. You always have a choice to discontinue the affiliate if you have a problem with it. Plain fact is you and the affiliate are in it to make money, if you don't feel it makes you more money or morally object to something , don't allow it, otherwise its a rather moot point.

example
i am affiliate , i make 10 "tribute" blogs etc like one posted make x sales per day make $x per day total all ads are for sponsor

i then add some other sponsor ads and make $x + extra , i can now afford to buy extra traffic, promote my sites, thus increasing my sales to you.

do you want x sales per day or x sales * 2 ?

alias 05-07-2010 10:50 AM

7 figures or not, that header sucks balls. Ask around. If you have an exclusive clause in your terms so be it. If not.. .

Phoenix 05-07-2010 10:53 AM

looks like he sends you sales....anyway nasty dollars rules

Jake 05-07-2010 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17118054)
sorry i have to say that i dont see a problem with the scenario you posted. You always have a choice to discontinue the affiliate if you have a problem with it. Plain fact is you and the affiliate are in it to make money, if you don't feel it makes you more money or morally object to something , don't allow it, otherwise its a rather moot point.

example
i am affiliate , i make 10 "tribute" blogs etc like one posted make x sales per day make $x per day total all ads are for sponsor

i then add some other sponsor ads and make $x + extra , i can now afford to buy extra traffic, promote my sites, thus increasing my sales to you.

do you want x sales per day or x sales * 2 ?

Smokey there are a couple of issues here.

1. I don't have a problem with an affiliate picking up some extra cash and having links to other sponsors in association with our content, it's pretty much industry standard anyway. However when priority placement is given to those other sponsors on a page that features our content and is on a domain using our branded name that's where I have a problem. The first thing a surfer sees when they hit http://www.naughtyjulieblog.com/ is three prominent links to another sponsor at the very top of the page.

2. Take "naughtyjulie" out of the domain name, remove any text on the page that reference "naughtyJulie", and remove her content from the page and this affililate has no traffic coming to this page, period. Thus no ability to siphon traffic off to another sponsor.

3. Back to the double standard I mentioned earlier. It's ok for the affiliate to pick up some extra cash by adding links to other sponsors on a page that only has traffic because of my content and my branding efforts, right? I'd like to pick up some extra cash too, I can't imagine how much revenue we could add annually if I were to use a couple of sponsor links on our tours but that's not acceptable now is it? "What's good for the goose is good for the gander!" No?


Again we're not talking about a generic blog here, we're talking about a blog that only has traffic because our our content and our branding efforts, period!

alias 05-07-2010 11:11 AM

Traffic does not come from content or branding. If it did you wouldn't need affils.

Jake 05-07-2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17118175)
Traffic does not come from content or branding. If it did you wouldn't need affils.

So using "naughtyjulie" in the domain name and keyword loading the page with "naughtyjulie" has nothing to do with capitalizing on our content or branding to generate traffic to that page? And that page would continue to get the traffic it's getting if all reference to "naughtyjulie" and her content were removed? Are you really taking that position?

Fat Panda 05-07-2010 11:36 AM

Aside from making a split second decision on where to host the screenshot (which obviously backfired) I feel as though I've done nothing wrong. I'd estimate that 95% of the clicks the Naughty Julie site generates are sent to her site...

That site has been on the front page of Google for years for all Naughty Julie keywords and phrases and only generates a handful of signups a year. I can almost certainly assure you it hasn't generated any Nasty Dollars sales.

Yes the site has 3 header links (that I change every once and a while), a cam section in the sidebar and small dating ad on the single posts. Other than that the complete blog is dedicated to promoting Naughty Julie and sometimes Allie. If you have a serious problem and plan on dropping me from your program I understand.

Lastly I have been nothing but a good affiliate, hell I've even contacted you numerous times concerning full scene Naughty Allie and Julie videos all over the tubes. Sent you urls, information, etc. I've emailed you and tried to contact you today via icq to no avail.

Please contact me...and check the links below before you continue to bash me please.

http://www.youjizz.com/search/naughty-allie-1.html
http://www.wankspider.com/search?q=naughty+allie

There are plenty more too...

alias 05-07-2010 11:37 AM

I'd tell you to sue me, and pull your links.

alias 05-07-2010 11:41 AM

Your heavy handed approach is not going to win you any fans in the affiliate community. :2 cents:

Fat Panda 05-07-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17118372)
Your heavy handed approach is not going to win you any fans in the affiliate community. :2 cents:

My approach?

Jake 05-07-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17118372)
Your heavy handed approach is not going to win you any fans in the affiliate community. :2 cents:

Now protecting your intellectual property is considered "heavy-handed"? BTW, in case you haven't noticed there are a growing number of sponsor program asserting the rights to domain names containing their branded intellectual propety, and rightfully so. That being said I have not stated that it is my intent to do the same with www.naughtyjulieblog.com so I'm not really sure exactly what it is that you consider to be "heavy-handed" here?

Fat Panda 05-07-2010 11:58 AM

Jake I am on ICQ to discuss this problem...

alias 05-07-2010 12:02 PM

SAC: No, Jake: No offense. I have no stake in this.

Hoping you both do well. Opinions are like assholes.. .

Jake 05-07-2010 12:38 PM

Issue resolved and for the record SAC has always been an honest/reliable NaughtyBank affiliate. I think this situation reflects a bigger picture issue that is still being sorted out industry-wide.

Fat Panda 05-07-2010 12:55 PM

Everythings all good Jake! Now you just need to get me in a room with Naughty Allie for about hour :banana

Jake 05-07-2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 17119007)
Everythings all good Jake! Now you just need to get me in a room with Naughty Allie for about hour :banana

:thumbsup


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