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MrDeiz 05-23-2010 11:31 PM
Read people COMPLAINING on what we call "shady x-sells". Interesting
 
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http://www.darntoothysam.com/blog/20...om-a-new-scam/

MrDeiz 05-23-2010 11:39 PM
http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...tml?sort=rated

another one.

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I signed up for the 1 dollar trial through this site, and it was only supposed to be a one time thing for one day access. Well I am obsessed with my money and where it goes so to make sure it went through I called to check my card balance. I noticed they charged me the 1 dollar four times and proceeded to charge my card 44.29. I called and asked what in the hell they thought they were doing they appologized and said they would be refunding ALL the money within five to seven business days. I called my card company today to see what the score was with it and if they had refunded the money as of yet. The customer service rep said they had not and it was a great thing that I called because I was going to need to cancel my card and get a new one, because a bunch of companies since the third of this month had been trying to charge my card back to back. This company is a scam if I have ever seen one. Buyer beware


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12 days ago by Laroc8 0 Votes

I just got the same upgrade scam from SOBVSITES.COM .. these guys are literally thieves and should be shut down. For one, the content is garbage ( realteeniegfs.com ) and most of it pulled from various free sites. But the bigger issue is the traps they set for the $1 trial customers.
Once you are processed for the $1 trial the site is very limited in what you are able to access. You get a few previews and links everywhere to UPGRADE to full membership.
Now I happened to click on a link to one of their sister sites they were promoting with the Full Upgrade.. Note I was not interested in upgrading by any means in fact i was surprised at how bad the content was and was simply trying to see what else might be offered by them.
Lo and behold I click on this image and a pop up says "Congratulations, you've just been upgraded" there was no consent no approval or confirmation allowed to me.. just the one act of clicking on that image and they had now charged my card $39.95.
I did not access any content from that point.. I looked up the cancellation information and proceeded to cancel and also call the customer support 800 number to explain this was in error.
The customer support agent at gfassist.com said i needed to send an email to [email protected] in order to get a refund.
I explained this all again in the email and got a response saying:
"Our records indicate that after you signed up for the trial membership
you accessed the site and decided to upgrade your membership in order to
view additional content that was not available to members with a trial subscription. "


I replied again explaining I DID NOT decide to upgrade and cited the specifics of what happened again and demanded a refund.

They responded with the exact same text as the first email response.

So i went online to chat live with someone from support..
We went back & forth with him ultimately saying I had to email support in order to get a refund.. so I carefully documented everything and responded for a 3rd time to billing..

They have so far refused to credit this amount back.. I've cancelled the card
and will dispute the charge.. I will also write a letter to Visa to try and get their merchant account revoked. These people are straight up criminals and need to be shut down now!!
15 days ago by davey_the_warrior 0 Votes

I am having a similar issue with sobvsites.com. I chose the $1.00 option and immediately unsubscribed so that after two days I would not be charged the $39.91. I logged in to the site and there are videos. As far as I could tell they were all available to me. There was no indication that you could only view certain videos. So I scrolled down to the video I wanted to watch and there was text that said "Click here to watch this video." When I put my mouse over the link, it showed in the bottom left corner that it was going to the website's url/upgrade. It bothered me that I had to pay more than what I already did because there is no description on the $1.00 offer in terms of what you get out of it. My next step was going to be to review over the previous pages and figure out what it is I was entitled to. However, since the url of the link was pointing towards a page named "upgrade", I figured I would at least see what they were asking for in order to access the rest of the content (if it was cheap enough, I would have considered it). When I clicked the link, instead of being brought to a page where it would ask me whether or not I wanted to charge my card the $39.91, the page said instead something to the effect of "...now authorizing your upgrade..." WTF??? It didn't even give me an option to upgrade - it just upgraded me and charged my card without warning!!!

I immediately checked my bank account and saw the charge. I called the vendor and they said they would not refund me and that they had no way to verify what I was saying was true. I pointed towards the fact that I called them very quickly after the mischarge and also pointed out that they could look at my record and see I have watched no videos. In addition, they should log in like I did as a trial customer and see what I see. They said the only thing I could do is email [email protected]. I emailed them telling them the exact same thing. They responded back and said that their records show that I authorized the charge. Yes - I clicked on the link that authorized the charge, but I so without being explained that I would be charged if I clicked on the link. In fact, it is my understanding that on the web if you're going to charge someone's card, you have to provide an interface that allows them to confirm they want to charge their card before proceeding to do so. Masking an authorization in a non-button, normal text font reading as "Click here to watch this video" is criminal.

Either these people do not know how to design their interface correctly or their are thieves. What's more is that on their website it explicitly says on http://www.sobvsites.com:

Customer fraud alert
A high percentage of fraud claims are by Customers who willingly make the purchase, only to deny it later. Please note that completing a legitimate purchase, then claiming fraud and filing a chargeback is a form of fraud and is an illegal practice punishable by law.
After a Fraudulent transaction is claimed the Account will be blacklisted, making future online purchases difficult with us and other E-Businesses. Please help us preserve the stability of Online Shopping.


What is SO sad about this is in this case, I am the one being frauded. What they have done is really immoral. It looks like their company is in the Netherlands so I'm not sure how easy it will be to sue. The only thing I can do is dispute the charge as far as I can tell.
63 days ago by gbpack13 0 Votes

I too was told of the 1 dollar offer but was charged 39.95, 12.00, 12.00, 39.91, & 39.91 all in one day never did get access but they sure took alot of money for nothing they are a rip of company I had to cancel my card with no reimbursement I am planning on taking further action of fraud charges it probably won't do any good but I have the time so crooks beware.
83 days ago by richme 0 Votes

I have had the same problem. I just got automatically signed up for Super Adult Pass and have no idea how. I have now instantly been charged from multiple sites (www.p7s7yark.com & www.wonhlp.com) for Super Adult Pass.

Please help! Is canceling my credit card the only thing that I can do to avoid being charge from these sites?

This also happened approximately 30 days ago to me as well! How do I cancel all this crap and stop being charged????
111 days ago by nottsguy05 0 Votes

I have had the same trouble with the same website superadultpass.com. I got in touch with them by online chats to cancel them and all they did was tell me the account had been closed and I would not be charged again, but this wasn't the case. I still got charged and have had to cancel my card. I am now going to contact the fraud department and try and get all the money back that they have taken from my bank account!!
124 days ago by Kim Eagle 0 Votes

I am pretty ticked! Does anyone know how to contact Safe 2collect? $1 turned into $40 and I would like to be reimbursed!
141 days ago by tikitic 0 Votes

All these compagnie are scammers.

Theyare related and will try to charge you as much as they can even if you cancelled they will keep going:

YOUNGCS.COM 1-888-363-8704
SOBVSITES.COM #4
SOBVSITES.COM #6
ST-SAFE2COLLECT.COM


Their front business is:
SuperAdultPass.com
youngasiantrannies.com
TotalTrannyPass.com


and many other sites including porn but also more legit sites.
155 days ago by R2300 0 Votes

I have also been charged the same way, do not let this horrible site scam you too. Other sites linked to this one:

ST-SAFE2COLLECT.COM, EnzoSupport.com, PAY8HLP2.COM, suppatm7.com, ASSISTUHELP.COM, webushlp.com

they have multiple sites so they can charge your card if you block one company.

MrDeiz 05-23-2010 11:41 PM
http://www.rawtop.com/porn/2008-08/n...illed-with-cum

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10 Comments

1. bry Says:

yeah, good luck trying to cancel the subscription, i’ve had serious trouble….and, be aware that they will charge you the full fee before two full days are up
2. rawTOP Says:

@Bry – Sorry to hear that…

The other sites owned by the same people have a pretty good track record. I’ve had zero chargebacks and 4 “credits” out of 131 sales and 106 rebills. That means 4 people have called or e-mailed and gotten their money back, and none have had to contest the charge with the credit card company. In other words, there are no signs of problems in the stats…

HOWEVER, the sites were sold a little over a month ago. I don’t have enough of a track record with the new owners to know whether there will be problems. However, I’ve never heard anything bad said about them either.
3. canadian Says:

I got suckered by the popboys site! Its a hot site but when I tried to cancel it said that it couldn’t locate my membership. My email for help was replied to several hours later and said my membership was cancelled. 3 days later my credit card was billed for $150.00!!!! I couldn’t believe it and VISA told me that because I authorized the $1.00 charge that the companies could argue they had permission and it was up to the vendor (website) whether they wanted to refund my money but they would argue on my behalf. I emailed these companies over 200 times calling them every name in the book. The managers are only reachable by email and many of the toll free numbers don’t work from canada. I was livid! I am still waiting for 2 more refunds from sobvsites.com (bastards) and prize-help.com (techassist.com did refund my money).

What a scam. Ben Haller is so fucking hot he deserves a better sales representative. I woulda paid 10 times that if I got what I was actually paying for. I didn’t want memberships to hetero sites with tits and snatch. Ben… your cocks worth money… you just gotta sell it better.

Canadian BB Boy.
4. rawTOP Says:

In case anyone else has billing problems with these sites (popboys, cumintomyass, stretchhisass, harry-forman, qsolo, twinksfilledwithcum, twinkfuckfest, etc.) and can’t get a response from the site owners – let me know ([email protected]) and I’ll contact them via ICQ for you. Email to them seems “problematic” – some e-mails I sent them never got a response. But I can IM them on ICQ and get quick answers…

Once I got a hold of them they resolved my issue pretty quickly and the manager seemed like a nice guy to boot… I’m not getting the sense there’s any intent to screw people – just technical problems with their e-mail…
5. Brendon Says:

Really? My friend works with one of these places (none of the sites listed here) and they definately intend to screw people. It’s how they make their (your) money.

There’s so much porn on the internet, you don’t even need to pay to see anything really anymore.
6. rawTOP Says:

@Brendon – Just yesterday there was a thread on one of the gay webmaster forums about the company that bought all those sites and launched the two new ones. It is a bit of a game, unfortunately, where they try to get you to sign up for things you don’t intend. If you’re careful, there’s no problem, but if not you can get things charged to your card you didn’t want. That said, they say they have a low chargeback rate which means when people ask for refunds they get them.

I’m going to write up a “buying porn” page that goes over this type of stuff. It’s unfortunate it’s necessary, but it is…
7. Severin Says:

I agree with all the remarks here. The billing website doesn’t recognise username and email. Tip: start a customer service chat and it should be cancelled quickly.

Until the summer, popboys.com was quite a good site, with regular new content and refreshingly uncomplicated. Then the updates stopped, and the billing continued and I cancelled. Out of interest I bought a trial membership to have a look and, yes, the last update from september is still the most recent one.

I do have the feeling now that it is a purely money-making operation, earning from people who forget to cancel. Perhaps the other websites in the popboys “family” are good. I never cared for them. Such a shame to see Ben sell out as he had such a good site.
8. Truman Says:

I’ve also had a bad experience. The SBVMEDIA / SOBV INTERNET portfolio of sites is impressive in its content however, they really need to work on their billing practices. Customer service leaves alot to be desired with this business regardless of whether you contact them via phone / live chat / e-mail. I’ve canceled two of my credit cards and had them reissued in the past month simply because their membership cancellation process never canceled my re-occuring memberships and a follow up call to their toll free customer service number got me through to a very abrupt man who said he couldn’t find my membership details from my username or e-mail address and that I should give him my full name, address and credit card details so he can do a search. I declined and asked to speak to his manager at which time he hung up.

rawTOP, you have probably never had a bad experience with their sites as you give them positive content reviews. They aren’t going to bite the hand that feeds them..
9. rawTOP Says:

@Truman – That company is the reason why I put up the “porn buyers guide” at the top of every page in the porn section. Good content, but you need to be careful.
10. billibud Says:

Definite BAD EXPERIENCE. I would definitely advise anyone to stay away from this site.

Jack Sparrow 05-24-2010 12:47 AM
Welcome to the internet, great info for all the surfers here.

Zango 05-24-2010 12:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim The Password Trader (Post 17167713)
I want to thank daizzzy for all the free passwords he gave me. I'm not sure how he got them, some say he gets them direct from the site owners and he claims he is going to review the site but in turns gives them to his readers.

This guy rocks. Really.

And he crusades on slimy cross sale companies, but come on, NONE OF US PAYS FOR PORN anymore since he gives us all the passwords we need.

Thanks bro! Now how about a members pass to met-art?
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

FrozenJag 05-24-2010 01:12 AM
Wow. SOBV guys sound like total thieves. I had heard it before but hadn't seen proof until now.

I actually had just signed up to a couple of thier programs but thinking otherwise now.

greg80 05-24-2010 01:21 AM
and now we can see why people just go to tubes and don't even care about pulling out their credit card

Jdoughs 05-24-2010 01:33 AM
This has been going on for longer then I've been a webmaster. And mainstream shit is even worse.

This thread is almost like listening to a 21 yr old who thinks he invented eating pussy.

tical 05-24-2010 01:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg80 (Post 17167875)
and now we can see why people just go to tubes and don't even care about pulling out their credit card
today this chick was telling me how she was horny today and how she went to redtube to download porn... "it's free there!"

sigh

BIGTYMER 05-24-2010 02:02 AM
SOBV runs GFProfits?

Or maybe just the xsales were SOBV.

Agent 488 05-24-2010 02:41 AM
sobv was going to give you like 40 grand to prove your allegations and you couldn't. just drop it man. the visa shit that went down had to do with mainstream, not porn.

do something constructive with your life.

seeandsee 05-24-2010 03:26 AM
Big PPS continues :) there is always loop hole

TeenCat 05-24-2010 03:35 AM
mr daizzy, i have domain porncrap.com, where will be wp or phpbb up in near future, and where i will be collecting all those shit on surfers, if you want to talk about it and help, as you know where to search, i will be more than happy. please ping me at radimcillik at gmail if you are interested, it will be not about much money, just about few banners or textlinks, but it will help surfers where not to get fucked. but more in email ... :winkwink:

Jack Sparrow 05-24-2010 03:53 AM
Every single post daizzy makes backfires within 3 posts.
Go share some passwords of the sites you review, this stuff is old as caveman on the 64.

Zango 05-24-2010 04:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17167918)
sobv was going to give you like 40 grand to prove your allegations and you couldn't. just drop it man. the visa shit that went down had to do with mainstream, not porn.
I remember that. They offered him a ton of money for proof and he couldn't provide it. :1orglaugh

MrDeiz 05-24-2010 04:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17168003)
Every single post daizzy makes backfires within 3 posts.
Go share some passwords of the sites you review, this stuff is old as caveman on the 64.
lol, it's like anyone listen to what fool like you say :1orglaugh
friskie i just have no time for you, idiot

Signbucks Daily kicks ass and i'm counting new referrals

Paul Markham 05-24-2010 05:36 AM
The real problem lies with Visa and MC. It would take them only minutes to check out these sites and suspend them. And maybe the banks that issue the merchant accounts. Like they do with some forms of porn.

Until then the Internet will be a scammers paradise. Mainstream or porn.

LoveSandra 05-24-2010 05:51 AM
nice reading

TheDoc 05-24-2010 06:00 AM
Daizzzy, I have a problem with your list because clearly some companies on the list aren't fraudulent to people and never have been. You personally never tested them... which is the key issue.

Basically, you slander them with zero proof.

MrDeiz 05-24-2010 06:53 AM
hit me up and let's discuss. there's a solid reason for every program why it's there

angelsofporn 05-24-2010 07:10 AM
Man, get a job.

GrouchyAdmin 05-24-2010 08:03 AM
Happy Monday to the winners!

sponsorpimp 05-24-2010 08:26 AM
Here we go again, daizzzy is like an old broken record stuck in the same old groove and can't jump out :2 cents:

Jack Sparrow 05-24-2010 09:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 17168260)
hit me up and let's discuss. there's a solid reason for every program why it's there
No there isnt you fucking retard lol.
Go lick some windows, share some passwords and gfy because nobody cares for your bullshit anymore.


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