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MrDeiz 05-25-2010 04:22 AM

Wow. Big news from Orgy Cash and ?Payserve
 
Isn't it too radical for one mail? )
Will be interesting to see how this will resolve/result
The only good news I see - Orgycash is partnering with Payserve

Follow other important sponsors changes at: http://www.signbucksdaily.com/adult-...rtant-changes/

Dear Orgycash Affiliates,

We have big news that we're excited to announce today as we've just
finished massively improving and updating of our network of sites,
Orgymax! The new and greatly improved version can now be found at
Tainster.com with all the same great content as before plus a whole
lot more! Please check out Tainster.com for yourself and get familiar
with everything it has to offer - all the same sites as Orgymax, plus
live shows, webcam shows, all our DVDs, chat rooms, third party
content soon to come, and a community section with a lot of the bells
and whistles that are a must on the net today and that we hope will
help retain members.

The issue that most concerns our affiliates is changes to the billing
setup for Tainster.com. As Tainster has been developed as a
pay-as-you-go credit system, with various types of live shows with
different rates and third party content soon to come, which will mean
those content producers will be getting their own cut of the revenue,
we had to change our payout system. Here is the breakdown (which will
make more sense once you get familiar with Tainster.com):

Webmaster Commission:
25% Senior Webmaster - more than 500 transactions in a month
20% Junior Webmaster - 500 or less transactions per month

RevShare:
5% of total earnings from referred webmasters, affiliates

Considering members are not limited to the flat rate system as they
were on the old Orgymax monthly membership format, there's much
greater potential for earning way more money than before!

Now you're definitely asking, what about all my affiliate links to
anything Orgymax related!? Not to worry, everything has been rerouted
to Tainster and nothing will change in that regard. We will be working
on changing our affiliate program in the weeks to come, but as for now
everything still works as it did before. We are working on partnering
up with Payserve, who will financially power our new affiliate
program, meaning you'll have more payout options than are currently
offered. Payserve is a well-established company that we have worked
with in the past and as such they are our trusted partner.

All of your current signups will automatically be transferred to
Tainster and they will be grandfathered into the same price they are
paying now (but remember, they can also pay more if they choose to buy
extra credits for special features on Tainster.com) in a special
monthly flat rate.

Orgymax will be no more as of June 1st , and as of today new
members cannot sign up to any Orgymax sites, but rather they will be
redirected to Tainster.com. We've been hard at work on Tainster for
quite some time and are very excited to launch it! We recognized the
need to keep of with the times in order to boost and help retain
memberships, and we're confident Tainster.com will result in much
better business for all of us! For you bigger webmasters and content
producers out there we're also working on setting up a system for
whitelabel solutions and much more, so stay tuned for more information
to come and a new and improved affiliate program!

We appreciate all of your efforts promoting us and keep up the great work!

MrDeiz 05-25-2010 04:36 AM

btw don't see link codes into admin
i mean there's no such option anymore

MrDeiz 05-25-2010 04:39 AM

and one more. what will be w/ ccbill program for orgy cash?

Oracle Porn 05-25-2010 04:45 AM

time to remove links

Pornopat 05-25-2010 05:11 AM

So basically they want to drop me from 65% to 20%
Links droped.

MrDeiz 05-25-2010 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat (Post 17171246)
So basically they want to drop me from 65% to 20%
Links droped.

i guess there will be increased volume of money surfer spends on that site.

sorry about my post on links. was trying to find them into vxsbill admin. everything is ok into orgycash.com admin

Pandemos 05-25-2010 05:26 AM

This is pretty shocking. No advance notice of the changes, payouts slashed and surfers deceived into signing up to something different than they're expecting.

Time to pull those galleries...

Vexes 05-25-2010 05:33 AM

Hey cool. A tube site... except its not a tube site. Its a fake tube site where you have to pay to see any video at all.

NICE

Will be great to get back to the days of 1:20 conversions.

LoveSandra 05-25-2010 05:35 AM

good to hear

brassmonkey 05-25-2010 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveSandra (Post 17171299)
good to hear

:1orglaugh

Bhunter 05-25-2010 05:47 AM

This is what I hate most from affiliate programs.. no announcements weeks before, but just doing mayor changes and then sending the news after it happend.

A BIG FUCK YOU!!

Links dropped!!


Pornpat .. do you have more fresh FHG's for PornRomance??
Now I'm dropping Fully Clothed Sex i have more space for you!

Naechy 05-25-2010 06:08 AM

cool, great looking :)

Abracadabra_nl 05-25-2010 06:09 AM

I have been an Orgymax affilate since 2005. All in all I have made aprox 200,000 dollars worth of sales.

But in spite of this they will drop me from 60% to 20%

Goodbye Orgymax. It was nice to do business with you. I hope you don't mind that I drop all my links to your sites.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-25-2010 06:12 AM

exciting news !!!! woot woot!!!

tranza 05-25-2010 06:43 AM

As always, Orgycash sends another annoucement that will reduce even more affiliates payouts.

I wonder if anyone will still promote them with a 20% comission only.

Also, did you guys get your last payment? It's way overdue for me. :(

DVTimes 05-25-2010 06:45 AM

bump 4 the news.

Bhunter 05-25-2010 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 17171488)
As always, Orgycash sends another annoucement that will reduce even more affiliates payouts.

I wonder if anyone will still promote them with a 20% comission only.

Also, did you guys get your last payment? It's way overdue for me. :(

I set my payouts to CCbill.. so they are always on time.

TheMaster 05-25-2010 08:01 AM

anyone have a clue what "Tainster" means?

spazlabz 05-25-2010 10:08 AM

I just wanted everyone to know that when I saw this thread I checked with Dennis (the CEO of Payserve) to ask him what this was all about. Apparently, there was some discussion about Payserve helping with OrgyCash's affiliates due to a large number of small payments being made through ePassporte. Orgycash discussed with Payserve the possibility for taking over these payments. That is the extent of our involvement in this issue.

Nothing had been finalized so this announcement caught us a bit by surprise and we are not entirely certain what is going on here. OrgyCash has always been a trusted partner with us and we enjoy a good relationship with them. Having said that we will need to have more discussions with them regarding this issue.

Abracadabra_nl 05-25-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMaster (Post 17171832)
anyone have a clue what "Tainster" means?

Doesn't it mean rip-off? :mad:

kristin 05-25-2010 12:37 PM

Wow .... just wow.

WeDesignet Lisa 05-25-2010 12:38 PM

that's total bullshit! They'll be stealing your money between now and the moment you remove your links. Fuckers!

Bhunter 05-25-2010 02:59 PM

well i would expect an reply from the program reps here...

but they did not.. they don't care...

bdld 05-25-2010 04:26 PM

i have lots of ccbill links up.

Abracadabra_nl 05-25-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhunter (Post 17173392)
well i would expect an reply from the program reps here...

but they did not.. they don't care...

I would be very surprised if they even read GFY. They are a bunch of Fxxxxx amateurs.

It's the same story as in April 2009 when they sent an email to all their affiliates which contained the following:

1) In an attempt to combat any fraudulent activity we will now be charging
the webmasters for any chargeback fines (24.95 Euros) that may be caused by
stolen credit cards or other such reasons. This will not effect 99% of
you, only those abusing the system.
2) We will be deducting a 5% credit card fee from all signups from now on.
We will continue to cover the rest of the credit card fees that our company
incurs.
3) There will now be a charge of US$2.00 for all epassporte transactions.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=897470&page=2

Many people got angry here on GFY because of these measures. But in spite of that, OrgyMax didn't respond. So why would they answer this time?

LickMyBalls 05-25-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld (Post 17173578)
i have lots of ccbill links up.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh wtf

fatfoo 05-25-2010 06:20 PM

20% and 25% webmaster commissions and 5% revshare. Sounds good. Good luck.

BIGTYMER 05-25-2010 06:25 PM

Thankfully I wasn't promoting them.

looky_lou 05-25-2010 10:54 PM

Links removed.

Abracadabra_nl 05-25-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 17173952)
20% and 25% webmaster commissions and 5% revshare. Sounds good. Good luck.

Please add to that:

1) chargeback fines
2) a 5% credit card fee from all signups
3) a charge of 2 US dollars for all epassporte transactions

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=897470&page=2a

TrainWreckContent 05-25-2010 11:21 PM

seems like a lot of these threads lately about affialtes....i dont promote any but man it sure seems like you have to be careful who you do promote :2 cents:

spunky99 05-25-2010 11:55 PM

gonna have to go with this response..

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17172831)
Wow .... just wow.


Mike Dutch 05-26-2010 12:07 AM

Is this only for this site or for all Payserve's existing sites, I assume only for this new site?

AnalProbe 05-26-2010 12:09 AM

620 links removed

NEXT

DennisK 05-26-2010 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dutch (Post 17174605)
Is this only for this site or for all Payserve's existing sites, I assume only for this new site?

As Spazlabs explained above it has nothing to do with the Payserve websites. They asked us if we are willing to take care of there epassporte payments, and we are still discussing about that.

Bhunter 05-26-2010 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abracadabra_nl (Post 17173579)
I would be very surprised if they even read GFY. They are a bunch of Fxxxxx amateurs.

It's the same story as in April 2009 when they sent an email to all their affiliates which contained the following:

1) In an attempt to combat any fraudulent activity we will now be charging
the webmasters for any chargeback fines (24.95 Euros) that may be caused by
stolen credit cards or other such reasons. This will not effect 99% of
you, only those abusing the system.
2) We will be deducting a 5% credit card fee from all signups from now on.
We will continue to cover the rest of the credit card fees that our company
incurs.
3) There will now be a charge of US$2.00 for all epassporte transactions.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=897470&page=2

Many people got angry here on GFY because of these measures. But in spite of that, OrgyMax didn't respond. So why would they answer this time?

Nou lekker business model dan!

Abracadabra_nl 05-26-2010 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhunter (Post 17174649)
Nou lekker business model dan!

Hm, wellicht voor de eigenaar, maar zeker niet voor de affiliates! ;)

teomaxxx 05-26-2010 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abracadabra_nl (Post 17173579)
I would be very surprised if they even read GFY. They are a bunch of Fxxxxx amateurs.

despite, all that shit, he is still the most richest paysite owner from our country(czech rep.), sometimes even fxxxx amateurs make big bucks. i remember reading some post on czech webmaster board from a friend of the owners, stating that they were doing around 500k net monthly in their best days (when hardcorepartying.com was new). of course, their best days are over.
now after my words, you are going to be surprised to seem them reading GFY and denounce my post :winkwink:

Jack Sparrow 05-26-2010 07:07 AM

And even in a thread like this daizzy spams his referlinks loool.

Bhunter 05-26-2010 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 17174788)
despite, all that shit, he is still the most richest paysite owner from our country(czech rep.), sometimes even fxxxx amateurs make big bucks. i remember reading some post on czech webmaster board from a friend of the owners, stating that they were doing around 500k net monthly in their best days (when hardcorepartying.com was new). of course, their best days are over.
now after my words, you are going to be surprised to seem them reading GFY and denounce my post

I loved their content.. so i was sure he was making bank..
but this movement is not how you treat thousands of web partners.

even with this change i would continue promoting their site.. but they should have let me know this before.


Quote:

Hm, wellicht voor de eigenaar, maar zeker niet voor de affiliates! ;)
beetje sarcasme... maar idd.. zo bedoel ik het ook..

Mike Dutch 05-26-2010 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisK (Post 17174614)
As Spazlabs explained above it has nothing to do with the Payserve websites. They asked us if we are willing to take care of there epassporte payments, and we are still discussing about that.

wow talking about some bad exposure lol, good to hear Payserve keeps it solid.

tonyparra 05-26-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vexes (Post 17171290)
Hey cool. A tube site... except its not a tube site. Its a fake tube site where you have to pay to see any video at all.

NICE

Will be great to get back to the days of 1:20 conversions.

who are you? but actually this may be true

MrDeiz 05-26-2010 01:15 PM

further OrgyCash explanation. got it from other guy which is promoting their gay sites

Quote:

We are simply rebranding our network, nothing is shutting down. Our hetero network is already up and running at Tainster.com and GuysGoCrazy will soon be up at Tainler.com (Bimaxx.com will have the same URL but with the same look as tainster/tainler). This essentially is just a new frontend with all of our videos re-encoded in much higher quality, now available in streaming as well as download, all the GGC DVDs available, and a Facebook style community. We are also going to be running live shows and webcams, which we're already doing on Tainster, but this will take a while to implement on our gay network. We will also be working with other content producers who want to put their content on our site (AEBN style, etc.) so there will eventually be a lot more for customers to choose from than just our parties.
So, ultimately all we're doing is breaking away from our dated network (Orgymax/GGC) and bringing it up to date in 2010 with a lot more features and better quality videos.
If anybody goes to guysgocrazy.com they will just be re-directed to Tainler.com (when it's up and running). All the affiliate linking codes will still work as normal and we are in the process of updating and rebranding our affiliate program as well (and partnering up with payserve to offer more payout options, etc, as mentioned in the email).
Thanks for the email, hope that clears some things up!
Camron
Orgycash

Hornydog4cooter 05-26-2010 02:02 PM

Come and get it free cookie stuffing from Daizzzzzyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!

Abracadabra_nl 05-30-2010 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 17176779)
further OrgyCash explanation. got it from other guy which is promoting their gay sites

All the affiliate linking codes will still work as normal and we are in the process of updating and rebranding our affiliate program as well (and partnering up with payserve to offer more payout options, etc, as mentioned in the email).

But what is meant with "all the affiliate linking codes will still work as normal"? Does this mean that a party hardcore link will not get redirected to this news teamster site? And does this also mean that affiliates who use the orgymax links will retain the 50% pay out?

Cyber Fucker 05-30-2010 10:17 AM

Links dropped :pimp

tonyparra 07-21-2010 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornydog4cooter (Post 17176975)
Come and get it free cookie stuffing from Daizzzzzyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!

ive been curious about this post


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