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$5 submissions 05-27-2010 10:37 PM

Is Wordpress a TICKING TIME BOMB?
 
Interesting thesis at http://www.ixdownload.com/news/wordp...protected.html

Old WP installs + malware scanners + exploits = malware distribution enabling sites (via redirect)

Do most hosts do automated WP upgrades/updates?

cgiGeek 05-27-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17182559)
Interesting thesis at http://www.ixdownload.com/news/wordp...protected.html

Old WP installs + malware scanners + exploits = malware distribution enabling sites (via redirect)

Do most hosts do automated WP upgrades/updates?

you really cannot/should not automate WP upgrades/updates,
even a simple theme may not work between versions,
worst for pluggings, much worse for custom things

LoveSandra 05-28-2010 02:06 AM

bump bump

bbobby86 05-28-2010 02:48 AM

i think it is...

seeandsee 05-28-2010 02:51 AM

i really think yes, if they find some exploit, it can be millions of sites down fucked "sharing" malware shit

Konkan 05-28-2010 02:52 AM

hmmmm......I start to worry about this :smokin

Davy 05-28-2010 03:25 AM

Not only malware. Could be all kinds of stuff.
Child pornography, chat servers...

The Duck 05-28-2010 03:28 AM

Too bad for the rogues it's such a solid piece of work.

Nurgle 05-28-2010 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 17183048)
Too bad for the rogues it's such a solid piece of work.

your kidding right!

Marcus Aurelius 05-28-2010 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17182559)
Do most hosts do automated WP upgrades/updates?

No .

prezzz 05-28-2010 03:45 AM

Most scripts that are not custom written are potential ticking time bombs, be it Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal or any other system running in obsolete version. There's still a huge amount of online stores running on outdated versions of Joomla and Virtuemart, which are vulnerable for attacks.

With updating to newer versions, there are two problems that are both costly and time consuming to be solved. First of all, many extensions are not written properly, utilize hacks and exploit bugs specific to a single subversion of a script. Secondly, in many cases some features and functions can not be achieved by templating system and that's when some core CMS files are being changed and tweaked, making the system hard to update without breaking its functionality...

fris 05-28-2010 04:11 AM

be smart, ive never had a wp site comprimised, lots of ways to protect the site

Hentaikid 05-28-2010 04:30 AM

Dreamhost has auto updates as an option but you have to switch it on manually.

I guess the wordpress installs they run for you also update automatically (That's another option when you create one)

cyber 05-28-2010 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cgiGeek (Post 17182588)
you really cannot/should not automate WP upgrades/updates,
even a simple theme may not work between versions,
worst for pluggings, much worse for custom things

I just upgraded a blog that was running WP 2.0.2 to the newest version...

Nothing 'broke'. I am going through the code and upgrading all the obsolete functions, though.

And I've never had a WP site compromised. Take some basic steps in protecting it, though, as in, don't prefix your tables with "wp_". Close your eyes and hit the keyboard.

Mine is similar to "faiufs98sgfrngsri_". :)

fatfoo 05-28-2010 07:59 AM

Malware and exploits sure suck. Good luck.

Horny Dude 05-28-2010 09:38 AM

http://securewordpress.com/

Came across this link a few weeks back, some pretty good info on securing your WP site.

Amputate Your Head 05-28-2010 09:45 AM

My host requires manual updating on all their packaged installs. That's a good thing because all my shit is tweaked and custom. An auto-upgrade would not be cool. (although I don't use WP)

Cyber Fucker 05-28-2010 09:59 AM

IMHO old releases are less vulnerable than new releases (off course if secured well and fixed). Every new release is a potential danger of security break. None of my wp installs was hacked yet and I don't have any spam as well.

cyber 05-28-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker (Post 17184048)
IMHO old releases are less vulnerable than new releases (off course if secured well and fixed). Every new release is a potential danger of security break. None of my wp installs was hacked yet and I don't have any spam as well.

it takes a few seconds to google for vulnerabilities for older versions of any software. it takes a little more to find up-to-the-minute hacks for newer releases.

Also, WP historically has been pretty good about releasing security updates quickly, within hours of major releases sometimes.

$5 submissions 05-28-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 17183048)
Too bad for the rogues it's such a solid piece of work.

If updated, yes.

$5 submissions 05-28-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17183061)
No .

That's cause for concern. Although there might be a marketing opportunity here for hosting companies that have a lot of WP blogger customers. For a small fee they can do upgrades. As mentioned earlier though, the owner must be well aware re impact on themes/plugins that might not be able to handle the upgrade.

GrouchyAdmin 05-28-2010 05:06 PM

Wordpress, no matter how often it is updated, is precisely that.

fris 05-28-2010 05:20 PM

its mainly these virtual hosts problem with running out of date software, hence why you should have your own vps or dedicated

$5 submissions 05-29-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 17185901)
Wordpress, no matter how often it is updated, is precisely that.

That would be extremely sad if true. WP is an awesome platform. It's just sad that blog owners feel like they are playing "whack a mole" with all these updates...

ottopottomouse 05-29-2010 03:35 AM

As well as just things like keeping it up to date - which applies to any packaged script - how many people just install any old plugin off of a completely random site that they find it on with no idea what it is actually going to do and no understanding of code?

GrouchyAdmin 05-29-2010 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17186647)
That would be extremely sad if true. WP is an awesome platform. It's just sad that blog owners feel like they are playing "whack a mole" with all these updates...

Shitty development, shitty code, so common it makes sense for blackhats to find a way to kill it.

Ask any of your managed host providers what they feel about WordPress. If you're lucky, you'll get a passive-aggressive shrug.

TheDoc 05-29-2010 07:35 AM

WP runs some some of the largest sites on the Internet without any issues or hacks. Don't use a lot of trash/unknown plugins, keep your skin clean and simple as possible, keep your wp updated. Then secure it, remove the header wp tags, pw protect the admin, shut comments off on old posts, and instead of blocking IP's in WP block them through the .htaccess file.

$5 submissions 05-29-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17186897)
As well as just things like keeping it up to date - which applies to any packaged script - how many people just install any old plugin off of a completely random site that they find it on with no idea what it is actually going to do and no understanding of code?

Exactly. Stay away from shady plugins.


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