Arizona speaks
 

la justicia está aquí! :thumbsup

Supporters of Arizona's new immigration law put the rest of the country and Mexico on notice Saturday: We're standing steady; you can't shake us from our beliefs.

"Together we will secure our border and get our nation back," Pam Stephenson, director of the Arizona Tea Party, told a crowd of more than 5,000 people gathered at Tempe Diablo Stadium.

The "Stand with Arizona" event, organized by "tea party" groups, featured speeches and music and came after a peaceful march in Phoenix of those who oppose the law.

Larry Wachs, an Atlanta radio station host, gave the Tempe group a rallying cry: "Can you hear us, now Mexico? Can you hear us, now? Because this land is not your land. This land is our land," he said. "I pay for it. We work for it. We have our credentials; where are yours?"

One of the more emotional moments of the evening came when Maricopa County Sheriff's Deputy Sean Pearce spoke. Pearce, the son of immigration-bill sponsor Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, was shot by an undocumented immigrant in December 2004 while serving a search warrant at a Mesa home. The shooting was one of the events that drove the senator's effort.

"As my dad says, it (Senate Bill 1070) takes the handcuffs off the police and puts them on the right people," Pearce said.

His comments were given a standing ovation.

Mark Spencer, president of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association, urged the crowd to hold to their convictions. "Arizona citizens have decided to replace a longtime failure with a long overdue solution. It's called Senate Bill 1070."

Arizona's immigration law, set to take effect July 29, makes it a state crime to be in the country illegally. It states that an officer engaged in a lawful stop, detention or arrest shall, when practicable, ask about a person's legal status when reasonable suspicion exists that the person is in the U.S. illegally.

"The new law is now a state law," Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio told the crowd. "If we catch anyone here illegally, we will arrest everybody and book them into jail. I'm not going to turn them over to ICE."

Paradise Valley resident Scott Wesley Brown arrived to the rally early. "Right now, the rest of the country needs to see the solidarity of Arizonans," he said. "This is not a racial issue. Arizona embraces Hispanic culture. We're all, somewhere down the line, immigrants."

Central Phoenix resident Kathryn Kobor carried a "1-800-Deport" sign. "This is a very fair and equitable law for all colors and ethnicities, as long as they're citizens," she said. "You must put public safety first. Hispanics want to walk the streets safely, too."

The rally drew many from out of Arizona, including Terrance Lang of America's Black Shield, a California-based advocacy group that supports civil rights and economic empowerment for Black minorities. He said his group takes a different point of view than that of other Black civil-rights leaders who have spoken out against Arizona.

"We believe in the rule of law," he said.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...#ixzz0pRoNex2Z

the colored text makes it difficult to read

racist against what :helpme are you hi

Come on ... ya I am High lol, but beyond that.. you missing the joke I made makes it more funny.. lol He was calling the text "colored" and I said "Thats Racist"... damn it if I have to fucking explain it.. it kills the joke ya know :(:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That should be African American text.


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i know :1orglaugh

Man it was nuts yesterday in phx...

maybe downtown but it was nice and quiet here :pimp

Diablo Stadium? That's odd.

I read a standing ovation was given to the speech.

This is a very good sign of approval. :thumbsup

I don't understand the issue with this law.

It's pretty simple. If I live in California and I get pulled over by the CHP, and the officer smells booze.... I got pulled over for a ticket, but the officer thought there might be a much larger crime committed so he started asking questions. This is called "common sense".

Now, if your a police officer in Arizona and you pull over a car with four Mexicans in it, not one of them speaks English, and not one of them can produce any US ID.... Well, it's common fucking sense that all of them are here illegally and all of them have broken some pretty serious fucking federal laws.

This law doesn't mean the local pigs will be hanging out in the parking lot of Home Depot trying to arrest illegals ( although they should ).

This is a fucking joke already. Two decades ago I worked in a fucking Taco Bell in Northern California, just north of San Francisco. Once a month the Border Patrol would walk in, full uniform, and over half the staff would go running out the back door - right in the arms of a dozen officers waiting with a truck.

Some chick got pulled over in Phoenix and is fighting her deportation. She's a student. And I'm a little confused. She was driving a car that wasn't registered, wasn't insured, and she was driving without a license. I'm a US citizen, and if I do this I'm in big trouble. This doesn't take into account all of the other crimes she's commited - being in the US on an expired Visa, not paying taxes (she must have a job to support herself), and then lieing to her land lord and the college she was attending.

What happens when she hits another car without insurance? How many times has this woman been to the ER jacking up my fucking medical insurance?

At what point do we say "This is illegal" and put a fucking stop to it?

I'm not fucking done yet.

Years ago I was driving my wife's car when I was at a red light and rear ended by a jeep. The jeep took off, but was quickly arrested by the local PD. Turns out - you guessed it - the driver was here illegally, driving a car that wasn't registered and wasn't insured. I was hurt, my passenger was hurt, my car was totaled. I didn't have "uninsured motorist" insurance; The car was totaled. I was hurt, couldn't work and couldn't go to school (I was in college full time).

Some fucking illegal alien decided he could come to the US illegally, drive without a license or insurance, and fuck up my life for months and there was nothing I could about it.

In before a faggot liberal comes in here and calls you racist for supporting enforcement of a basic law that protect citizens and legal immigrants.

The worry some people have about the law is that it will require legal immigrants to carry their papers on themselves 24/7. Now, in theory, this isn't that big of a deal because they should only be questioned by the police of the are suspected of doing something illegal. However, we could end up with a situation similar to what recently happened in Illinois. A guy was taken into custody because he was suspected of being illegal. He was held for 48 hours by the police before immigration officials got there and they held him for another 48. Meanwhile his mom took his birth certificate to the immigration officials to show that he was legal and they basically ignored her. Eventually, after 4 days, he was released.

So now if you are of Mexican decent, but you were born in the US and are a US citizen and you are riding in a car with someone who gets pulled over and you don't have any ID on you, they can arrest you, take you jail and hold you for multiple days until they determine that you are not illegal. Maybe it will be just a few hours and as soon as they either drive you to your house to get your ID or you have someone bring it in all will be fine, but for some maybe it will be days, either way it would piss me off.

This is why some people are worried. Obviously, there are going to be some pretty cut and dry cases where the people are clearly illegal and those people should be detained and deported. But I would be willing to bet they will end wrongly arresting and detaining a few people the state will end up with some big lawsuits against them.

For me, I am just wary of any law that requires someone to carry papers on them 24/7. To me is sets a bad precedence and sends us down a road that might be hard to turn back from.

5,000 people = State of Arizona ???
Interesting.

hehehe you caught it, too, eh? Anyway, I wonder what the Fed 'solution' would be... Of course, it had to wait after November

true. It's sad when people use their race to fight something when they're in the wrong

she should be brought up on charges there are so many things that she has done one is she isn't a resident but she's paying her tuition like a resident which is way cheaper. :disgust did you see why the law was formed by the author of the law son was shot by an illegal. :helpme a deputy sheriff in maricopa county

Since when do local beat cops get to enforce FEDERAL LAW?
Maybe we should have them take over all IRS action too. They seem to have too much free time, so let's get these cops busy!

you live in cali :helpme home of the term 187 :uhoh killa cali it seems we may have won i see less illegals now and home depot is clear :1orglaugh i went to get some stuff the illegals were all over me cause i was driving my truck. :1orglaugh :helpme but about the law its at state level now the feds dont want to get in it.

Hey Kane, I hate to break this news to you but even in Portland, OR as a US citizen you are required by law to carry ID no matter where you go. You can't drive a car, cash a check, rent a car, buy a drink, get a job, go to school, get married, use your credit card or anything else without ID. As a citizen you are REQUIRED to carry ID at all times and you SHOULD have ID on you at all times. Act a fool in public, get sick and fallout, get hit by a car, get stopped by a cop and you are gonna get asked for it!!! So if citizens who are born here get asked for ID, why shouldn't citizens who were naturalized not be asked for papers??? You are NOT making sense!!!

While ID may be necessary for all of the practical applications you have stated, it is not a crime to not have ID on you.

it is here in Az

well, I meant with the exception of that southwestern police state.

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States and localities do have the power to require people to identify themselves. There are 24 states that have “stop and identify” laws.

Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Illinois
Indiana
Kansas
Louisiana
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Mexico
New York
North Dakota
Ohio
Rhode Island
Utah
Vermont
Wisconsin

It's still not a crime to not have ID. No one is doing time in prison because they didn't have ID. (unless you're Mexican and in Arizona).

Idiot,
this is not about about IDing yourself, this is about keeping proof you're legal in the US.
Someone perfectly legal can be detained for few days by some rookie cop, who has his head up his ass.. Can,t wait for some one to sue you morons.

your making it sound like illegal immagrants aren't committing any crimes man if you dont know im guessing you never will. :Oh crap ill try an explain it to you. :helpme we border south america therefore illegals are of hispanic descent. If we bordered africa illegals would be african descent if we bordered the french well we would have free pies and cakes :1orglaugh do you understand that its just a mexican is right because they border this country stop crying please. :)

You really believe there aren't illegals here from just about every country on Earth?
I never said being an illegal alien wasn't illegal. I said it's not illegal to not have ID.

in my state Arizona its like 98% illegals from south america

While you are correct that is common sense and practical that you should carry ID (as you say you need it for a lot of different reasons) it is not a crime to not have it. If I decide to go for a walk around my neighborhood I am not required to have ID on me. If I am a passenger in a car I am not required to have ID on me. Like you say it is something I should do even if for my own safety, but it is not REQUIRED of me unless I am doing something that requires ID like driving a car or cashing a check.

That said, this is not the main reason I am worried about the required papers law. To me it is a slippery slope. I can see it starting out where only legal immigrants need to have the green card/documents with them. But then in an effort to not profile they might decide to change the law so that anyone and everyone has to carry this information with them. This probably can be covered with a drivers license, but maybe not. If that isn't good enough to stop potential lawsuits they could ramp it up a little further. Maybe they make it so that at toll booths you also have to show your papers or they detain you. Things like this happening are not all that unrealistic to me.

I am for the law in Arizona. I think we need to give our police the power to detain illegals and help get them removed from the country. I just don't want to have to sacrifice my personal freedoms to do so. I know how our government works. They never take just an inch. If it is available they will take a mile and I don't want to see that happen.