Israel, Where Do You Stand?
 

What do you REALLY think about Israel?

They make nice guns.

I don't think about israel

Right or wrong on particular issues aside, I think people and surrounding countries should just quit fucking with them. As in completely. They obviously have a low tolerance level for being fucked with. The sensible thing to do would be to just not do it.

I think there are some hot Israeli chicks walking around in military uniform and carrying guns. :thumbsup

Do you think an American politician can take an anti-Israel stand and get any positive media coverage?

Keeping the Arabs at war and against each other since 1947 :thumbsup

I hear it's hot there this time of year...

Pretty even results so far...

fuck isreal

In before thread is either bombed, or labeled antisemitic.

I think the country of Israel has some of the latest and best technology. I am not a jew.

I think the US should slice off a small piece of Montana and let them all move there. The world would be a safer place.

I think the same damn thing, I think the entire country will in LA city limits

And for the first time in history, you could get a decent bowl of Matzo Ball soup in Montana. :)

No, not just no, but a great big giant FUCK NO! To utter a single bad word towards Israel means an instant labeling by the Press as an Anti-Semite bigot and the person uttering this negative word will need to immediately take to his/her knees and blow Israel if they have any hope of saving their political careers

They already have Florida ...

Pathetic, isn't it?

What do I really think about Israel? In spite of my thread where I'm defending their recent actions (because I think legally they are in the right), I chose "fuck Israel".

The United States has been standing up to Israel since day one, and it's not always on the right side. Of course, this doesn't mention they've intentionally attacked a US ship and destroyed it.

Then factor in... Israel wouldn't have a leg to stand on if the US wasn't propping them up. How much money does the United States send to Israel on a year basis?

3.5 billion or so I hear.

I didn't vote...but agree with your post. The government sends them billions each year...more aid than any other country we supply aid to...in addition they receive more private aid than any other country...primarily from Christians...and what do we get in return...sometimes a sharp stick in the eye.

there should be a poll option "can't we just all get along"

Seems to me this is an adult porn board and not a political board, thats where I stand.
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It's a mutually beneficial relationship, with each side needing the other.

those are my only choices? fuck... im in the grey area. speaking as an israeli-american currently living in israel... once again can we get back to talking about the TA and how to sell porn?

lol yes some people think it's useful

what does the US get from its side of the deal?

I'm seeing the poll results are a pretty close race. Now we need a second poll asking how much of gfy is jewish or isreali because I suspect there may be a bias here.

Maybe I missed something, I don't really follow the news all that much on this topic so I may be wrong here, but is it not ironic to anyone that they are effectively exterminating palestinians, but if anyone says anything about it they cry holocaust and anti-semitism?

I'll one up that vote.. Where ever it is.

And I'll take one of those too :1orglaugh

"Important ally" ?

Please explain - in what way does supporting Israel help the USA?
Why is USA sending Israel $65 billion every year?

i'd say that as the only secular democracy in the entire Middle East it's pretty clear that Israel is one of America's most important allies.

the price paid for consorting with the Saudis, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein etc - that's cost the United States a lot more than the 65B a year to Israel.

america would have much better relations with the middle east if it took a more even handed approach with the israeli/palestine problem.

having israel as such a close ally even if they're a secular democracy, hasn't prevented any problems for the US in the middle east, its just made things much worse.

its in the US interests for there not to be democracy in places like saudi arabia. do you think the a governement voted for by the people of saudi would be more western friendly? that's why the corrupt saudi royal family was put in power by the west.

they're good partners in the fight against the Muzzies

I think they over protect them self, ww2 is over 60 yrs ago, ok we dont need to forget but come on, Hitler is dead, there is no new one in europe, let's not kill the people

Why should USA be concerned with what's going on in the middle east? Don't we have enough of our own problems?

And why stop at middle east? Let's start fucking with the Russians, Chinese and what not.

Results seem to have changed a bit over night.

No longer neck-and-neck at the moment.

You'll need 'em when Iran gets serious so...

oil - if there wasn't oil in the Middle East we'd ignore it completely as would every other country in the world.

i dont care one way or the other, let them blow each other up. they will be at war for eternity until they wipe each other off map.

I agree with you on this.

i chopped it, i really dont want to get into some israel debate lol that piece of the earth is cursed by jesus himself and will be blood shed every day until both sides are done.

Israel defends its borders, defends itself, is usually not the one to start the attacks and just responds ... yet anytime they do anything in self defence the whole world attacks them. The arab monkeys have become experts in media manipulation, much like this group of boats which were being sent to provoke. Hell Israel and Egypt both offered for them to dock in their ports and let the stuff be cleared then sent into Gaza, but no they wanted to cause as much trouble as possible.

Screw those towel head monkeys ... Israel should have wiped them off the map already.

Yeah and their female commando soldiers are sexy as hell :glugglug

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lol see thats what im talking about ^ "israel are the nice guys, dont blame them"

followed by "lets wipe the monkeys off the earth"

lol never ending war is all there will be.

Probably mate. Personally if they werent trying to 'destroy' me and my way of life I would be happy to have them just left alone. But they dance in the streets with joy whenever westerners are killed. Either they will be wiped out or we will .. I don't think the 2 cultures can ever live together because one is single mindedly bent on the destruction of the other.

they both want to see each other wiped off map. LOL

they both hate each other and it will never end, its like Kyle and Cartman, :1orglaugh

the Israeli/Palestinian problem means nothing to the rest of the Middle Eastern countries - it's a canard. they don't care about the Palestinians, the Palestinians have been the wandering sadsacks of the Arab world for centuries - nobody wanted them, and nobody wanted the land called Palestine - no oil, no fresh water, just dirt - what the Israelis have done over 60 years is beyond incredible for such a small population. The Arabs like that the problem exists, because it makes Israel look like bullies and any negative world opinion about Israel makes them happy.

I understand that the US has been forced to pick the lesser of two evils when they support the Saudi royal family and the likes of Saddam Hussein at times.

The Middle East is hopeless. Long after we're all gone the same shit will be happening there.