Irish blockade runner heading towards Gaza
 

I wonder if the Israelis will storm aboard it and shoot at the Irish, especially as the Irish parliament has given their backing to the activists.

http://palsolidarity.org/2010/06/12648/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_...d/10198003.stm

Screw the Irish. The Israels have thousands of rockets hitting them from Gaza... they are in a war for survival. They have a blockade set up to keep weapons from getting in.... (A blockade that is also set up by Egypt BTW.) They have said many times that all these ships need to do is to come into port, and allow their cargo to be inspected, and then it will be delivered, along with the other 15,000 tons of aid going in every month.

Personally, I think that the Israeli commandos should simply get in on the ships rudder, and blow it out. Then they can offer to either tow the ship in, or let them sit there.

It was obvious that this whole thing was a set up. the 5 other ships gave no problems when they were boarded.... only the one ship was crewed with the guys that were picked to attack the Israelis with knives, axes and pipes. The Israelis should have retreated as soon as they were attacked, and then just disabled the rudder of the ship.


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lol thats an act of war.

Civilians armed with knives, axes and pipes attacking commandos armed with assault gunboats, attack choppers and machine guns.

Do you understand how silly this sounds?

world is cooking again, army industry needs new wars...

Wow. Sitting pretty in Florida and yet so much hate in you.

Imagine if you had spent all your life in an open air prison like Gaza. You'd already be strapping your backpack :1orglaugh

Sorry but your frame of mind shows you have a lot more in common with your ennemy than you think :2 cents:

My god! Stupidity has become a plague!

Look at his avatar. The guy is a 100% certified Yid.

Why take sides? Fuck the Zionist Khazar filth and fuck the Muslim fundies. I love this shit. Its like watching a pedophile and a spammer in a knife fight, does anyone really lose? Just sit back and enjoy the show.

And I hope Israel fucks this Irish shit up in a grand manner just so we can all sit back and watch those incompetents do nothing about it.

About the only thing I like about Israel is they dont give a fuck what anybody thinks. And Boregore.

In the US, try attacking a police officer (armed with a gun) with a knife, ax of lead pipe....

...He will shoot you.


Do you understand how silly that sounds?


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Actually, the US, as well as almost every other country in times of war, have had blockades to prevent weapons being transported to their enemies. This involves boarding and inspecting any ship that tries to run that blockade. If the crew of that ship attacks the boarders with violence, then violence will be the reaction. Rather than get anyone hurt, if the crew of the ship attempting to run the blockade resists, then simply cripple the ship without hurting anyone.



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Technically israel can board your boat anywhere on the globe and search it, and you shouldn't fight back.

Key words there are, 'in the US'.

so are you saying israel is at war or that palestinians are terrorists? it can't be both.

Except that they were on their own land (ship) in international waters. And they weren't attacking - they were defending.

Your example is really fucking stupid.

If a US police officer shoots at me in the middle of the night while I am still in Mexico...

I'll fight back with whatever I can get my hands on.

I don't have hate. I'm angry that people think that when they run a blockade set up by Israel and Egypt to prevent weapons from coming into Gaza, that there should be no reaction to it.

As for Gaza itself.... the fact is that when the Palestinians were persuaded to leave by their Arab neighbors with the promise of help to "drive the jews into the sea", and it didn't work out that way.... those same arab neighbors would not then allow the palestinians to leave those border camps and become citizens of those countries.... They kept them locked into those camps. By contrast the 800,000 Jews that were thrown out of their homes all over the middle east were allowed to become citizens of Israel. Meanwhile, the Arabs that stayed in Israel are full citizens, serve in the Kinnesett, and have more rights and freedom than most Arabs throughout the rest of the middle east do. Hell, when the governments of Lebanon, and Jordan roll tanks through the palestinian camps (that they keep them prisoners in), and raid houses, etc.... It gets NO coverage in the news.

You do all realize that anything could come through the border with Egypt into Gaza.... except that Egypt has a blockade also, and will not allow things through... Why isn't that news? All the aide in the world could come right through Egypt... Why doesn't it???

The reality is that this issue would have been solved generations ago.... if the Arab countries had absorbed displaced Arab like Israel absorbed the Jews that were thrown out of the rest of the middle east. Instead the palestinians have been used as pawns by the rest of the arab world.... cannon fodder to brainwash and throw against Israel.


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but why should the other arab countries take them in when the palestinians have their own land that over the years is being slowly taken over by israel?

Not true... I'm not yiddish. Mostly Sephardic.



NEXT!!!


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Why should Israel have taken in the 800,000 jews that were thrown out of the homes that they had been living in for thousands of years all over the middle east when they were taken over by the arabs in 1948-49?

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as many articles have stated Israel is not in war or at war and cannot just board and take over ships in international water, end of story

besides you didnt say board and inspect, you said blow it up and leave it there LOL :1orglaugh

The only thing scarier than israel, is all the jews in america that will defend israel at all costs. And Aipac which controls our house and senate. 100%

Why would you twist my words like that? I said cripple their rudder, not blow up the ship.

And what about the Egyptian blockade? All those ships would have to to, is to go around to Egypt and then come across the egyptian border to Gaza... Do you know why they don't? Because it's better to try to defy the Israeli blockade. If they try to defy the Egyptian one, then it doesn't make Israel look bad, it makes Egypt look bad.... and no one gives a crap about that.....


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all the Israeli navy has to do is put a floating bar between the Rachel Corrie and the Gaza Strip.

oh ok blowing up part of the ship to disable it isnt considering blowing it up LOL

the way you guys justify the hate you have for humanitarian aid is astounding!

lemme spell it out for you, you support placing bombs on ships carrying aid and no weapons, we get it. :1orglaugh oh and im sure the bombs wouldnt actually have a chance of sinking the ship would it? LOL just sit back in your luxury home and watch the show like the rest of us, its all just make believe, no one was really harmed... LOL

you support the same type of terrorism you claim to hate LOL

the Israeli state has always wanted to increase its population size. strength in numbers. that doesn't give it the right to continually erode the Palestinian land by building settlements etc. this is why Israel doesn't want peace, because it knows it will have to give back some of the land that now hass jewish settlers on. whenever there's a cease fire and the prospect of serious talks, the Israeli government will do a provocative act to derail those talks. just as they did recently that pissed off the current US administration.

Wow perfect timing, isn't that around when israel was formed? Zionist would do anything to get Jews to israel. They are the true cannon fodder.

Remember this? Keep in mind they were dressed lie arabs when they did this.

The King David Hotel bombing was an attack carried out by the militant right-wing Zionist underground organisation, the Irgun,[1] on the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946.[2] The hotel was the site of the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities of Palestine, the Secretariat of the Government of Palestine and Headquarters of the British Forces in Palestine and Transjordan.[3][4] The attack was the deadliest directed at the British during the Mandate era (1920?1948) and more people were killed than by any bombing carried out in the subsequent Arab-Israeli conflict.[5]

Or this one?

The Lavon Affair refers to the scandal over a failed Israeli covert operation in Egypt known as Operation Susannah, in which Israeli military intelligence planted bombs in Egyptian, American and British-owned targets in Egypt in the summer of 1954 in the hopes that "the Muslim Brotherhood, the Communists, 'unspecified malcontents' or 'local nationalists'" would be blamed.[1] It became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the incident, or euphemistically as the Unfortunate Affair (Hebrew: העסק הביש‎, HaEsek HaBish). In 2005, Israeli President Moshe Katzav honored the nine Egyptian Jewish agents who were involved

Or this one?

The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter planes and motor torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and a civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Aris

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what a comparaison .... :warning

So I will go over it again.... Egypt and Israel both set up a blockade on Gaza to prevent weapons going in there.... not that unreasonable if you consider 8000 rockets fired out of there in the last few years. (What would you do if the local indian reservation started firing rockets into your neighborhood? just asking)

So with Israel and Egypt both requiring that the ships stop, be boarded, and then inspected to be sure that there actually is AID and not weapons (at which point the aid will be transported into Gaza overland), and when they do that on this ship they are attacked.

So their choices are: Let the ship go on, and break through the blockade, and don't find out what is on board, aid, weapons, whatever... or... render the ship unable to go through.


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all this has nothing to do with why i quoted you above, you clearly said board and place bomb to blow it up LOL you claim to be peaceful and want peace then voice your support to place bombs on vessels who pose no military threat.. no diff than hamas my friend.

all this talk of Egypt is your friend in this is nothing to do with what you said.

I bet Egypt wouldnt help you set bombs on boats loaded with aid, THAt is what you supported and voiced your support of. end of story LOL

So again I ask all the Israel haters here.... Why doesn't the aid go straight though Egypt to Gaza?



You all seem to be avoiding that...

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Both sides would rather play the blame game than take any responsability.

Like you are doing now with the Flotilla incident, I would have a lot of respect for anybody that came in here and said yes to a certain extent we fucked up.

I am not pro-Arab, I just think the situation calls for at least minimal critical thinking.

Try running a bus through the Egyptian border with Gaza and not allowing it to be boarded for inspection.

Try coming into US waters and refusing an order by the US coast guard to heave to, and be boarded..... which they have every right to do within 20 miles of the US coast. If you refuse to stop, they will fire upon you.... even if you are actually carrying rainbows and unicorns. And if they board you and you attack them with axes and knives.... you will get shot.


End of Story... LOL


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are you lumping me in that group just becuse I deal with facts and not biased support for bombing of vessels? I dont hate Israel, I hate murderers.

I agree.... I think Israel DID fuck up. I think that they should have put a ship in between the one that fought back and the shore line... and simply physically blocked the ship.

I think that Israel definitely messed this one up...


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Some people will never understand because the truth for them is only what they think, the rest of the world doesn't mater.

I would never set foot in that area for any amount of money, religious terrorists on both sides and no wall you guys build will stop it.

As we have seen, even when you are unarmed, they will board your ship and kill you, simple as that you and I have it made to sit back in air condition and yap about this on a message board, but had you been born a Pali you would be singing a different tune, just be glad you have it made in Florida and stop with the loyalty to another foreign land.

Im american, dont care about egypt or gaza, fuck em all. You on the other hand, seem to encourae bombing unarmed vessels for the sake of some foreign land

I think that Israel government are terrorists.

What is Israel's Blockade For?
Jun 2 2010, 10:37 AM ET | Comment

Many of my commenters seem to think that the point of the Gaza blockade is simply to keep war materiel from reaching insurgents in Gaza. That is not the reason for the Gaza blockade, though it may be one goal. But the strategy is much farther reaching than that: it is to topple Hamas by immiserating the people who elected them. Check out some of the war materiel being blockaded:


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...f5e9970c-550wi

and more :


Meanwhile, EGYPT has lifted the blockade:

Like I said, I was talking about a very small charge to disable the rudder.

....and I will say THIS again.

Try coming into US waters and refusing an order by the US coast guard to heave to, and be boarded..... which they have every right to do within 20 miles of the US coast. If you refuse to stop, they will fire upon you.... even if you are actually carrying rainbows and unicorns.

And if they board you and you attack them with axes and knives.... you will get shot. I know this for a fact, as I have several friends in the coast guard, one of which actually was attacked with a boathook during a boarding, and the attacker was shot and killed. ...and as a boater returning the US waters from the bahamas, I have dealt with them directly.

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Within 20 miles...................

1. doesnt matter how you reword it now, you clearly supported placing bombs on unarmed ships to disable them LOL not only do you risk sinking the ship you are encouraging acts of war when Israel has no declaration of war, make no mistake its war you want though.


2. The ship wasnt in Israeli waters, fail. 70 miles from gaza. period.

As I said, just be glad you sit in comfy Florida home (what israel does has nothing to do with you) while the blood is spilled over there. In my opinon both sides are savages and want nothing but war and death. I refuse to side with either of them

but they weren't 20 miles offshore they were in international waters.

Fair way to end it.... though I have been there, I certainly don't live there...


So anyway, you should come down and visit sometime... It's a comfy place on the water... :) You are welcome anytime! :thumbsup



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is the humidity as bad as down here in new orleans? LOL its been so hot and humid past week, but gotta love central AC.

LOL

id add though, the fact that americans were on board some of these ships means americans should see this different.

You attack and kill Americans and I will sid with them over any foreign land. My loyalty is to this land not some middle eastern religious homeland thats for sure.

The idea that part of this fleet was american flagged speaks alot that they were attacked.

but yeah good note to end on, its about to storm gotta go pull in some plants and get the dogs inside Lol

causing basically no damage , more israeli's die from bee stings than rockets from gaza

at the current "kill" rate of hamas, israel would vanish in the year 5,654,394,012 ( in laymans terms "war for survival" is a crock of shit )


an illegal blockade, one the rest of the world says needs to stop
I bet egypt gets nothing from that deal LOL

tell that to the starving children who don't have food or medicine because israel ISN'T letting it in.

FACT: israel has one of the lowest infant mortality rates
FACT: literally 30 miles away gaza has one of the HIGHEST infant mortality rates.

You should be ashamed for supporting the gaza death camps.

If you were truly concerned about loss of life you would be suggesting an IMPARTIAL observer inspect the shipments , like the U.N. or let internationally recognized aid groups deliver aid like the Red Cross.


Personally i think they should just have allowed aid into gaza to begin with. Only a truly sick person would keep medicine from children.:2 cents:

Yeah, because you can't kill someone with a fucking pipe, a knife, or an axe....

Sure it's humid, but we live on the water and I have a boat.... plenty of breeze.... and yes, gotta love central AC....and a well stocked bar.


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