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notime 06-05-2010 02:06 AM

Visa introduces new card with eight-digit keypad and built-in screen that displays single-use codes
 
http://translate.google.com/translat...C1&sl=nl&tl=en

AdPatron 06-05-2010 02:42 AM

No photos?

BIGTYMER 06-05-2010 02:49 AM

Lets hope this doesn't take off.

notime 06-05-2010 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 17216049)
No photos?



http://www.gearlog.com/images/visa_LCD.jpg

PhDV 06-05-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17216173)
Lets hope this doesn't take off.

Why?
Looks cool and much secure...
I'd get one

Domain Diva 06-05-2010 03:10 AM

im trying to figure how visa verifies the code the card has produced ? does the card produce random digits or pre-stored digits ( if pre-stored..it makes it vunerable to be cracked !???).....looks neat but im totally lost on this concept.:(

Raf1 06-05-2010 03:47 AM

seems interesting, but I'm pretty sure they're going to fuck it up somehow

Jack Sparrow 06-05-2010 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberClaire (Post 17216717)
im trying to figure how visa verifies the code the card has produced ? does the card produce random digits or pre-stored digits ( if pre-stored..it makes it vunerable to be cracked !???).....looks neat but im totally lost on this concept.:(

Not sure if its like the dutch internet bank accounts, but those interact the produced codes with that from the bank through a callback algo. Then it verifies the code with another code the bank sends. If they match it will go through.

Domain Diva 06-05-2010 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 17217348)
Not sure if its like the dutch internet bank accounts, but those interact the produced codes with that from the bank through a callback algo. Then it verifies the code with another code the bank sends. If they match it will go through.

I have the data somewhere....that stated over 60 percent (or something like that ) of people screw up filling in all online credit card order forms already......so I can only imagine what will happen if they own one of these cards then ! :1orglaugh

ottopottomouse 06-05-2010 04:09 AM

If you can make it someone else can crack it, nothing is the perfect solution to card fraud.

Jack Sparrow 06-05-2010 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberClaire (Post 17217451)
I have the data somewhere....that stated over 60 percent (or something like that ) of people screw up filling in all online credit card order forms already......so I can only imagine what will happen if they own one of these cards then ! :1orglaugh

Its actually a bit simpler the that lol.

eroticsexxx 06-05-2010 05:21 AM

I can appreciate the added security, but I'm an impulse online buyer if there ever was one.

My card #'s are memorized. Having to dig out my CC every time I made a purchase would be annoying.

BIGTYMER 06-05-2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PhDV (Post 17216391)
Why?
Looks cool and much secure...
I'd get one

Rebills. You can't rebill a single use card #.

stonehammer 06-05-2010 06:08 AM

the added security is great

notime 06-05-2010 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17218898)
Rebills. You can't rebill a single use card #.

I don't think it's a single-use card but it just generates a single-use code that is valid for a short time. So if your creditcard info gets stolen, the info becomes useless to others after, say, 15 minutes. Maybe the extra security codes can be used with rebilling, if that is what the user ordered and used the code for that subscription order.

Maybe the charge backs will be even less since the surfer cannot say anymore that it was not him who used the card on a pornsite. Since nobody else had the code, it must have been him IMO.

candyflip 06-05-2010 06:17 AM

Its ever so obvious these days that "CyberClaire" is some dude using that dumb chicks GFY nick.

madawgz 06-05-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17218898)
Rebills. You can't rebill a single use card #.

all its doing is apparently generating a new cvv2 number on the back, which is longer than the normal 3 digits

notime 06-05-2010 10:55 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete....html?ITO=1490

Users have to input their Pin every time they make an online purchase.

The card then displays a security code, which must be entered into the website. If the code is authorised by Visa's servers, the purchase is approved.

The company hopes the card could boost shopping over the internet.

'We saw a big rise in online shopping, but consumers were still worried about fraud,' said Sandra Alzetta of Visa.

'We hope this new card will help allay those fears, and give consumers more confidence when shopping online.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0q0CTOJgX



http://www.pcworld.com/article/11591..._displays.html


http://www.switched.com/2008/11/16/n...ecurity-codes/

notime 06-05-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by madawgz (Post 17219352)
all its doing is apparently generating a new cvv2 number on the back, which is longer than the normal 3 digits

This is added extra, it's not replacing the cvv2.

The random number generator is simply an algorithm and it is intitialised with a secret code. This means the bank can set the secret prior to sending you your card and then keep their algorithm (on their server) in sync with yours.

That somebody would somehow break this algorithm is misplaced as their are internatioanlly recognised algorithms accepted and tested by the community/academics/NSA that cant be cracked within the lifetime of the universe using current computers.

A man in the middle attack would be a possibility but not in the presence of SSL which is being checked by the browser.

If this is a one time code then a man in the middle attack would only grab a code that can be used once and probably for a limited period of time or not at all if your transaction has gone through. This seerely limits the exposure of your card as the static card number is not being used to authorise a transaction.

All in all this idea is a good one that will protect consumers and make them more confortable using a creditcard to purchase online and feel safe doing so.

FlexxAeon 06-05-2010 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberClaire (Post 17216717)
im trying to figure how visa verifies the code the card has produced ? does the card produce random digits or pre-stored digits ( if pre-stored..it makes it vunerable to be cracked !???).....looks neat but im totally lost on this concept.:(

it's a built in security token

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_token

I have one of these for my biz bank account and also for an mmo video game (don't laugh) for fraud protection

in a nutshell - the tokens all have like a "id number" on them. i'm sure the number it generates is based on that and an internal algorithm or equation involving time. you register the id number with whatever company (bank) which also knows the equation, the two can generate the "one time password" whenever necessary.

they been around for a while - i've had my bank one (keychain kind) for 7-8 years. putting it on a card is brilliant

edit: damn you notime for beating me to it!!

SomeCreep 06-05-2010 11:05 AM

ya das koo

notime 06-05-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 17219422)
edit: damn you notime for beating me to it!!

The higher purpose is to get people buying online again with a creditcard that are now scared to do so. Also this could combat end user chargebacks and (affiliate) fraude.

Just imagine this :thumbsup
This is good for our industry :2 cents:

Manowar 06-05-2010 11:50 AM

very strange looking card

directfiesta 06-05-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 17219422)
it's a built in security token

I use something like that fore VPN access ... SAecurity token is provided by RSASecurity.
The codes changes randomly but sometimes the token needs to be resynced .

fatfoo 06-05-2010 01:46 PM

Anti-fraud protections are always good.


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