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Vendzilla 06-10-2010 11:47 AM

FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol
 
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06...-near-el-paso/

Wow, this is only going to get worse.

Fletch XXX 06-10-2010 11:48 AM

cant say I blame them, imagine if canadians were shooting our kids and sending groups into our land? Id shoot em too LOL

Quote:

Pointing their rifles, Mexican security forces chased away U.S. authorities investigating the shooting of a 15-year-old Mexican by a U.S. Border Patrol agent on the banks of the Rio Grande, the FBI and witnesses told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

The killing of the Mexican by U.S. authorities — the second in less than two weeks — has exposed the distrust between the two countries that lies just below the surface, and has enraged Mexicans who see the death of the boy on Mexican soil as an act of murder.
the world is not a friendly place, i wouldnt be anywhere near that war zone. its pretty much a given bullets fly daily there. and have for 100s of years

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 11:50 AM

Eye for an eye.

Execute a Border Patrol agent.

Isn't this exactly what I suggested the other day? Mexico should put some troops up there and see how the Border Patrol likes it when someone shoots back. I guess they don't like it.

Why 06-10-2010 11:57 AM

mexico has much bigger problems then the US protecting its border.... how many innocent americans have died from the overflow of mexicos drug wars?

sperbonzo 06-10-2010 12:01 PM

This is not really new.... The drug lords have been paying the Mexican army for protection on the border for quite some time.



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Fletch XXX 06-10-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17235033)
This is not really new.... The drug lords have been paying the Mexican army for protection on the border for quite some time.



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not to mention the MS13 do it constantly just for fun and are paid to do it too... anyone involved in human smuggling shoots at border patrol, nothing new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:07 PM

Border Patrol needs to send their people back to the classroom and learn to do their job properly. As it is, they are getting close to starting a war. No one in Mexico is very appreciative of them murdering an unarmed boy, on Mexican soil.

This is not Cold War Berlin.

sortie 06-10-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 17235009)
mexico has much bigger problems then the US protecting its border.... how many innocent americans have died from the overflow of mexicos drug wars?

How may Mexicans die from American fugitives who flee there?

Maybe the illegals would be brave enough to go back home if we get all of
our criminal/raping/murdering fugitives to leave Mexico.

TheDoc 06-10-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17234983)
Eye for an eye.

Execute a Border Patrol agent.

Isn't this exactly what I suggested the other day? Mexico should put some troops up there and see how the Border Patrol likes it when someone shoots back. I guess they don't like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235067)
Border Patrol needs to send their people back to the classroom and learn to do their job properly. As it is, they are getting close to starting a war. No one in Mexico is very appreciative of them murdering an unarmed boy, on Mexican soil.

This is not Cold War Berlin.

You might want to go get checked out for mental stability issues... your lack of respect for people that are here protecting you - is utterly pathetic.

"A U.S. official close to the investigation told the AP that authorities have a video showing that the Border Patrol agent did not cross into Mexico. In fact, the official said, the video shows what appear to be members of Mexican law enforcement crossing onto the U.S. side, picking something up and returning to Mexico. The official was not cleared to speak about the video and spoke only on condition of anonymity."

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17235079)
your lack of respect for people that are here protecting you - is utterly pathetic.

"Protecting me"?! :1orglaugh

Fuck that murderous asshole. He should be stripped of his authority and thrown in a Mexican prison for his crime. Go ahead, defend that criminal. Hypocrisy fuels my resolve.

Fletch XXX 06-10-2010 12:15 PM

so the agent was on our side border but still shot a kid on mexican soil, lol SPIIIIIN

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/1...ead_on_mexican

they have video of border patrol pulling a BART cop

Ethersync 06-10-2010 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17235107)
so the agent was on our side border but still shot a kid on mexican soil, lol SPIIIIIN

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/1...ead_on_mexican

they have video of border patrol pulling a BART cop

Fucked up video.

TheDoc 06-10-2010 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235089)
"Protecting me"?! :1orglaugh

Fuck that murderous asshole. He should be stripped of his authority and thrown in a Mexican prison for his crime. Go ahead, defend that criminal. Hypocrisy fuels my resolve.

See, your claiming he's a criminal that murdered someone, when it appears the evidence is going to show he didn't. But being that he's authority and his job is to protect our borders - which protect you, however you literally can't show any respect... and that's pathetic.

You think hypocrisy fuels you.... shit stain stupidity fuels me.

Rangermoore 06-10-2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235067)
Border Patrol needs to send their people back to the classroom and learn to do their job properly. As it is, they are getting close to starting a war. No one in Mexico is very appreciative of them murdering an unarmed boy, on Mexican soil.

This is not Cold War Berlin.

Just like no one in America is very appreciative of illegal mexicans murdering Americans on American soil...! :2 cents:

http://www.poultrynetwork.com/Video-...N-VIDEO-CATTLE

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:30 PM

Okay, whew! I finally stopped laughing from TheDoc's comment.... man, that was a knee-slapper.

TheDoc, I really don't need protection from 14 year-old boys that aren't even in the U.S.
If a Mexican authority had shot & killed a boy on our side of the border, you would probably be the first one declaring war and shouting that we should invade. Somehow I don't see your sentiments going the other way...

"Oh well, you know... the Mexican authorities are "protecting" their public. the kid shouldn't have been there."

Stop drinking the Cop-Koolaid and give me a fucking break.

Rangermoore 06-10-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235089)
"Protecting me"?! :1orglaugh

Fuck that murderous asshole. He should be stripped of his authority and thrown in a Mexican prison for his crime. Go ahead, defend that criminal. Hypocrisy fuels my resolve.

Your just an ASSHOLE :321GFY

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 17235185)
Just like no one in America is very appreciative of illegal mexicans murdering Americans on American soil...! :2 cents:

http://www.poultrynetwork.com/Video-...N-VIDEO-CATTLE

What is this? Justification for cross-border murder?

Marcus Aurelius 06-10-2010 12:33 PM

kill all Mexicans.

Fletch XXX 06-10-2010 12:33 PM

all bullshit aside, I fucking love Amp 9.0

Shok 06-10-2010 12:35 PM

If they are brown, shoot them down

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:37 PM

Hahaha! I love it. I bring logic and common sense, and am met with "ASSHOLE", "kill all Mexicans", and "If they are brown, shoot them down".

Rednecks are fun. :)

TheDoc 06-10-2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235189)
Okay, whew! I finally stopped laughing from TheDoc's comment.... man, that was a knee-slapper.

TheDoc, I really don't need protection from 14 year-old boys that aren't even in the U.S.
If a Mexican authority had shot & killed a boy on our side of the border, you would probably be the first one declaring war and shouting that we should invade. Somehow I don't see your sentiments going the other way...

"Oh well, you know... the Mexican authorities are "protecting" their public. the kid shouldn't have been there."

Stop drinking the Cop-Koolaid and give me a fucking break.

Ahh see you think it's a vacation zone, when it's already a war zone. We don't need to invade, we need to protect at all costs those people that are protecting us.

His age makes no difference either... a young teenage is equally as deadly as an adult when they have a weapon, like rocks. And any arresting BP agent should have protected himself, he should get a sharp shooter medal for the shot too.

Ethersync 06-10-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 17235185)
Just like no one in America is very appreciative of illegal mexicans murdering Americans on American soil...! :2 cents:

http://www.poultrynetwork.com/Video-...N-VIDEO-CATTLE

So if someone is against US border guards executing teenage Mexicans on Mexican soil it means they are totally cool with Mexicans, who are in the US illegally, killing Americans on US soil? :error

Fletch XXX 06-10-2010 12:41 PM

Ive had a cop here in NOLA tell me if I shoot someone outside who was breaking in, make sure you drag him back inside your house LOL

Border Patrol agents cant be much different.... shoot him on one side, drag to the other is prolly their entire game. Having been told that by a police officer I can only imagine thats part of how border patrol agents work.

The Demon 06-10-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17235079)
You might want to go get checked out for mental stability issues... your lack of respect for people that are here protecting you - is utterly pathetic.

"A U.S. official close to the investigation told the AP that authorities have a video showing that the Border Patrol agent did not cross into Mexico. In fact, the official said, the video shows what appear to be members of Mexican law enforcement crossing onto the U.S. side, picking something up and returning to Mexico. The official was not cleared to speak about the video and spoke only on condition of anonymity."

I am shocked at this post because I absolutely agree with you. That lack of respect is ridiculous. Amputate, you're a moron.

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17235232)
Ahh see you think it's a vacation zone, when it's already a war zone. We don't need to invade, we need to protect at all costs those people that are protecting us.

His age makes no difference either... a young teenage is equally as deadly as an adult when they have a weapon, like rocks. And any arresting BP agent should have protected himself, he should get a sharp shooter medal for the shot too.

The boy was in Mexico. He is a murderer, not a hero. He should be arrested, extradited to Mexico and made an example of. Then they can pin whatever medal you like, right to his forehead.

The Demon 06-10-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235196)
What is this? Justification for cross-border murder?

Does your stupid ass live in reality?

Shok 06-10-2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235263)
The boy was in Mexico. He is a murderer, not a hero. He should be arrested, extradited to Mexico and made an example of. Then they can pin whatever medal you like, right to his forehead.



was he?

or did he run back before collapsing

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17235255)
I am shocked at this post because I absolutely agree with you. That lack of respect is ridiculous. Amputate, you're a moron.

Sorry Demon, I don't give respect to murderers wearing a badge.

BestXXXPorn 06-10-2010 12:48 PM

I say kill anyone that tries to illegally cross the border! How ya like me now?!

If someone tries to illegally enter my house I'll also open fire. I advise you to do the same.

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17235282)
I say kill anyone that tries to illegally cross the border! How ya like me now?!

If someone tries to illegally enter my house I'll also open fire. I advise you to do the same.

Was the kid trying to cross? If he was, it was a pretty brazen attempt seeing as how, you know, the U.S. Border Patrol was right there. And even if he was, I wasn't aware that crossing illegally was instantly punishable by death.

TheDoc 06-10-2010 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235263)
The boy was in Mexico. He is a murderer, not a hero. He should be arrested, extradited to Mexico and made an example of. Then they can pin whatever medal you like, right to his forehead.

He wasn't murdered though...he was shot and killed because he was a threat. It makes no difference that it happened on Mexican or U.S. soil. (We aren't sure if it actually happened on Mexican soil though)

If the location makes a difference to you - that's really jacked up.

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17235296)
It makes no difference that it happened on Mexican or U.S. soil.

It makes all the difference in the world. This wasn't south Chicago. This is an international incident. And you think it makes no difference? You are truly naive.

kowalsky 06-10-2010 12:53 PM

Well done guys!!

BestXXXPorn 06-10-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235290)
Was the kid trying to cross? If he was, it was a pretty brazen attempt seeing as how, you know, the U.S. Border Patrol was right there. And even if he was, I wasn't aware that crossing illegally was instantly punishable by death.

I'm saying it should be punishable by death... correction, I'm saying an invasion of US soil should be protected by gun fire... only way to correct the illegal immigrant problem is to increase the risk...

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17235313)
I'm saying it should be punishable by death... correction, I'm saying an invasion of US soil should be protected by opening fire... only way to correct the illegal immigrant problem is to increase the risk...

Then someone better inform Mexico and Canada that we are shooting to kill now.

TheDoc 06-10-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235290)
Was the kid trying to cross? If he was, it was a pretty brazen attempt seeing as how, you know, the U.S. Border Patrol was right there. And even if he was, I wasn't aware that crossing illegally was instantly punishable by death.

It wasn't about crossing illegally... he was attacking the BP agents with rocks, the BP agent protected himself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235305)
It makes all the difference in the world. This wasn't south Chicago. This is an international incident. And you think it makes no difference? You are truly naive.

Why does the location of the person being shot make a difference if it's murder or not? If you're throwing rocks from any location at the military or police, in any country - it's not ever going to be murder.

Are you actually reading what you write?

TheDoc 06-10-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235317)
Then someone better inform Mexico and Canada that we are shooting to kill now.

I don't think we need to tell Canadians if you throw rocks at the BP agents that they will probably shoot back instead of throwing rocks back.

However you may be correct in us needing to tell Mexico again for the 100th time.

Ethersync 06-10-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17235318)
It wasn't about crossing illegally... he was attacking the BP agents with rocks, the BP agent protected himself.

Did you see the video?

Fletch XXX 06-10-2010 12:57 PM

"protecting himself"

LOL even the video clearly shows the kid was running away, he wasnt even throwing rocks LOL

they always paint the image of someone having to shoot someone in self defense meanwhile the kid was running away, wasnt coming at the officer with weapon, nothing LOL

Amputate Your Head 06-10-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17235318)
It wasn't about crossing illegally... he was attacking the BP agents with rocks, the BP agent protected himself.



Why does the location of the person being shot make a difference if it's murder or not? If you're throwing rocks from any location at the military or police, in any country - it's not ever going to be murder.

Are you actually reading what you write?

Are you? The BP Agent executed an unarmed foreign fucking boy on his own soil for throwing a rock. In my professional opinion, that is an act of war. The U.S. Military is very clear when giving instructions to soldiers in combat: Do Not Fucking Shoot Someone Over The Border.

Apparently the Border Patrol didn't get the memo.

Coup 06-10-2010 01:00 PM

haha look at all these amerikkkans defending a border agent that committed fucking murder.

Tanker 06-10-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17235107)
so the agent was on our side border but still shot a kid on mexican soil, lol SPIIIIIN

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/1...ead_on_mexican

they have video of border patrol pulling a BART cop

great spin they dont mention that he was a known juvenile smuggle

TheDoc 06-10-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17235327)
Did you see the video?

Yeppers... of course you can't actually see the kid throwing rocks or the bp agent actually shoot him. So overall the video sucks.

However as the other article says, we have Video showing what happened and openly shared it with the Mexican Gov to speed the investigation along. IE: end the stupidity.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-10-2010 01:01 PM

I think they need to stage a shootout.

Ethersync 06-10-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17235348)
Yeppers... of course you can't actually see the kid throwing rocks or the bp agent actually shoot him. So overall the video sucks.

However as the other article says, we have Video showing what happened and openly shared it with the Mexican Gov to speed the investigation along. IE: end the stupidity.

I agree it is hard as fuck to see what is happening in that video, but the kid was clearly running and I did not see rocks being thrown anywhere. Hopefully a better video is released...

TheDoc 06-10-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17235339)
Are you? The BP Agent executed an unarmed foreign fucking boy on his own soil for throwing a rock. In my professional opinion, that is an act of war. The U.S. Military is very clear when giving instructions to soldiers in combat: Do Not Fucking Shoot Someone Over The Border.

Apparently the Border Patrol didn't get the memo.

If it was an act of war, America would have declared it long ago. Being that Mexicans have attacked and killed many Americans at the border.

What profession are you in that would make you a professional to a point that you claim this was an act of war?

I have never been given that order before... Our orders were always two things: Kill everything or kill nothing. If we have the orders to protect ourselves, you trow rockS (yes rock as you put it as an S on the end) at me - I'm going to light you up.

BestXXXPorn 06-10-2010 01:06 PM

In the United States, a civilian may legally use deadly force when it is considered justifiable homicide, that is to say when the civilian feels their own life, or the lives of their family or those around them are in legitimate and imminent danger. However, self-defense resulting in usage of deadly force by a civilian or civilians against an individual or individuals is often subject to examination by a court if it is unclear whether it was necessary at the point of the offense, and whether any further action on the part of the law needs to be taken. -Wikipedia

The question is whether he felt his life was threatened...

Vendzilla 06-10-2010 01:07 PM

OK, the point that should be made. America has the right to protect it's borders. If you throw rocks at someone wearing a gun trying to protect the border, you came from the shallow end of the gene pool and should be shot, border agents have the right to protect themselves. End of story.

The guy that got stunned after running from the cops at the border, got what he deserved. The kid that got shot, what was he doing there? Sorry, don't feel bad for him, I would like to see the video that the border patrol has! They probably have a better one somewhere

AMP, fine, lets declare war, they have been invading us for years, I'm thinking internment camps, mass shipping of illegal aliens back to Mexican soil, cut off all western union money grams and all foreign aid, that would kill off the country.

TheDoc 06-10-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17235359)
I agree it is hard as fuck to see what is happening in that video, but the kid was clearly running and I did not see rocks being thrown anywhere. Hopefully a better video is released...

You never see the gun fire either... so I figure it's probably not the actual video but some other day.


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