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dyna mo 06-18-2010 08:13 AM

U.S. auto build quality beats out imports in J.D. Power survey for first time in 24 years
 
we're back, baby!

Ford was tops amongst volume brands with an average of 93 problems per 100 vehicles, coming in ahead of Honda which scored 95. Ford and GM together had 22 vehicles in the top rankings for quality.

U.S. manufacturers overall beat out the reliability rating of imports in the J.D. Power & Associates' latest quality study with an average of 108 problems per 100 new vehicles. For import brands, it was 109.

Rochard 06-18-2010 08:39 AM

We've been back. But public perception says that American products are crap. And oh lord, they sure where in the 1970s and 1980s. But that was a long time ago.

IllTestYourGirls 06-18-2010 08:54 AM

Was this before or after GM cars started spontaneously catching fire and they recalled 1.5 million vehicles?

DateDoc 06-18-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17260278)
We've been back. But public perception says that American products are crap. And oh lord, they sure where in the 1970s and 1980s. But that was a long time ago.

a lot of the cars in the 1990s and 2000s were crap too. Until recently they only had a few decent cars.

Choopa Phil 06-18-2010 09:01 AM

ill take the interior of my infiniti/nissan over the rubbermaid plastic of a ford any day of the week! If they made some cars with some more appeal instead of just throwing the biggest displacement motor in them that gets 10mpg id be more apt to purchase an american sports car.

DateDoc 06-18-2010 09:03 AM

http://imgur.com/wyXOc.jpg

dyna mo 06-18-2010 09:03 AM

recalls don't mean anything in and of themselves. fact is, the media loves to hype recalls & misses the bigger picture in the process.

You could argue that when a car is recalled, it shows some bad engineering by an automaker. However, the reality is most recalled vehicles will never experience a problem.

JFK 06-18-2010 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17260315)
Was this before or after GM cars started spontaneously catching fire and they recalled 1.5 million vehicles?

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

dyna mo 06-18-2010 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17260315)
Was this before or after GM cars started spontaneously catching fire and they recalled 1.5 million vehicles?

recalls don't mean anything in and of themselves. fact is, the media loves to hype recalls & misses the bigger picture in the process.

You could argue that when a car is recalled, it shows some bad engineering by an automaker. However, the reality is most recalled vehicles will never experience a problem.

DateDoc 06-18-2010 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLXphil (Post 17260345)
ill take the interior of my infiniti/nissan over the rubbermaid plastic of a ford any day of the week! If they made some cars with some more appeal instead of just throwing the biggest displacement motor in them that gets 10mpg id be more apt to purchase an american sports car.

Not a Ford but still made in the USA and in the honda accord price range.

http://imgur.com/ueu99.jpg

Choopa Phil 06-18-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17260358)
Not a Ford but still made in the USA and in the honda accord

and driven by my grandma, lol

dyna mo 06-18-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17260315)
Was this before or after GM cars started spontaneously catching fire and they recalled 1.5 million vehicles?

you certainly enjoy posting misleading comments, there have been zero gm cars that have spontaneously caught fire due to the issue.

IllTestYourGirls 06-18-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17260357)
recalls don't mean anything in and of themselves. fact is, the media loves to hype recalls & misses the bigger picture in the process.

You could argue that when a car is recalled, it shows some bad engineering by an automaker. However, the reality is most recalled vehicles will never experience a problem.

I look at it differently, if my car gets recalled there is a huge problem with it, I have to bring it to the shop, get it fixed, maybe rent a car, lose time from work, thats a HUGE problem in my book. :2 cents:

DateDoc 06-18-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLXphil (Post 17260367)
and driven by my grandma, lol

Granny has a pretty fast, stylish car! :)

IllTestYourGirls 06-18-2010 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17260370)
you certainly enjoy posting misleading comments, there have been zero gm cars that have spontaneously caught fire due to the issue.

You seem to not know what you are talking about

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gm_recall

Quote:

GM said it was aware of five fires but there had been no injuries or crashes reported. Nearly 1.4 million vehicles are in the U.S. and more than 100,000 vehicles are in Canada, Mexico and other international markets.

dyna mo 06-18-2010 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17260382)
You seem to not know what you are talking about

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gm_recall

i mis-spoke, i meant to say zero injuries/fatalities/crashes, but my point remains, you like to post misleading comments.

IllTestYourGirls 06-18-2010 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17260394)
i mis-spoke, i meant to say zero injuries/fatalities/crashes, but my point remains, you like to post misleading comments.

Ok fair enough. But where did I misspeak? I said they caught fire and they needed to recall 1.5 million vehicles.

flip.green 06-18-2010 09:17 AM

I cant even get excited about this thread. I'd love to buy a car made in the US with parts made in the US that wasn't crap. Or have an economy that wasn't being exported away in little pieces. But whatever.

dyna mo 06-18-2010 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17260405)
Ok fair enough. But where did I misspeak? I said they caught fire and they needed to recall 1.5 million vehicles.

just my observation, from your comments in various threads. we prolly just don't see things the same, no biggie. fact is though, the media loves to hype recalls, yes, they are a pain in the ass.

anyhoo, to answer your original question, the j.d power results were after the recall.

ottopottomouse 06-18-2010 09:35 AM

Are the surveys on 3 year old cars/ownership the same as here?


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