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Redrob 06-18-2010 11:13 PM

Patent for Website Technology.......enforce or give a pass?
 
Everybody is always coming down on Acacia for their buying other people's patents and trying to license the technologies or collect damages.

If the shoe was on the other foot and you developed and owned your own fundamental patent for an internet technology spending say $20,000 on development and legal expenses, would you try to license it and collect damages from other companies?

Just wondering? What would you do?

Intrinsic 06-18-2010 11:16 PM

Patents seem more enforceable than trademarks. Interesting.

crockett 06-18-2010 11:17 PM

There is a very distinctive difference here. Someone that spends money and "DEVELOPS" their idea deserves every right in the world to protect it.

Acacia, doesn't develop anything but lawsuits as a business model to clog the legal system and make money. Fuck them they deserve nothing.

XPays 06-18-2010 11:29 PM

enforce, speaking as an inventor. get paid for making those building blocks of the internet.

kane 06-18-2010 11:43 PM

Haven't you guys heard. This is the Internet. Once you create something you are supposed to give it away for free.

Redrob 06-19-2010 07:01 AM

Bump for additional comments.

rowan 06-19-2010 07:14 AM

Buying up patents that you think are broad enough to scare potential "offenders" into paying for a license is not being inventive or innovative. That's a fucked up business model.

marcop 06-19-2010 07:59 AM

Over the last twenty years or so, there's been a problem in the US with patents being granted that are overly broad, or not original enough. Congress has made a couple of half-hearted attempts to fix things, but hasn't managed to do so yet.

Paul Markham 06-19-2010 08:06 AM

There needs to be a big shake up over patents. So that those who create something can prosper from it, even if they sell the patent, and those that use it without a license are made to pay for it.

And companies who try to use an overly broad patent to blackmail people into paying for a license should be taken to court for fraud. If they lose a case in the courts they need to be made to pay all the costs of the defendants as well. At the moment it's too easy for these companies to prosper.

brentbacardi 06-19-2010 09:11 AM

In general, you should have to pay the costs of the defendant if you lose, the legal system in the US is fucking clogged already with bullshit lawsuits IMO

DaddyHalbucks 06-19-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrinsic (Post 17262362)
Patents seem more enforceable than trademarks. Interesting.

It's actually just the reverse.

DaddyHalbucks 06-19-2010 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 17262363)
There is a very distinctive difference here. Someone that spends money and "DEVELOPS" their idea deserves every right in the world to protect it.

Acacia, doesn't develop anything but lawsuits as a business model to clog the legal system and make money. Fuck them they deserve nothing.

Without the support people to fund and enforce and manage, the actual inventors have nothing.

Relentless 06-19-2010 09:22 AM

Failure to enforce your IP rights is grounds for losing them.
If you don't plan to enforce... don't patent or trademark in the first place.

Redrob 06-19-2010 09:51 AM

Some patent companies like Acacia do help small inventors monetize their patents by splitting any profits after covering the licensing and enforcement expenses without the inventor covering a share the expenses upfront.

baddog 06-19-2010 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 17262363)
There is a very distinctive difference here. Someone that spends money and "DEVELOPS" their idea deserves every right in the world to protect it.

Acacia, doesn't develop anything but lawsuits as a business model to clog the legal system and make money. Fuck them they deserve nothing.

So, if I buy something it is not mine?

Redrob 06-20-2010 07:14 AM

One last bump for comments. Thank you for you opinions as they have been helpful.

DiF0r 06-20-2010 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17262390)
Haven't you guys heard. This is the Internet. Once you create something you are supposed to give it away for free.


:2 cents: :thumbsup

sortie 06-20-2010 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 17262354)
Everybody is always coming down on Acacia for their buying other people's patents and trying to license the technologies or collect damages.

If the shoe was on the other foot and you developed and owned your own fundamental patent for an internet technology spending say $20,000 on development and legal expenses, would you try to license it and collect damages from other companies?

Just wondering? What would you do?

You are asking people who got run out of business because of a complete lack
of copyright protection of their real product to believe that acacia's abstract theories of
web interfaces should get protected.

Not a chance in hell that acacia has a single thing that is protected.
There would only be one kind of computer if this was true since all computers
use the same "theory" of function.

It's not like Acacia developed actual computer code to do anything.

Redrob 06-20-2010 05:03 PM

Sortie, you beg the question....What would you do if you financed (paid for developers, attorneys, and filing fees) and developed a new technology (wrote the code).....would you license and protect it or would you allow later copycats to use it for free?


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