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IllTestYourGirls 06-19-2010 09:03 AM

Sheriff: Mexican Drug Cartels Control Parts Of AZ Up To Metro Phoenix
 


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Amputate Your Head 06-19-2010 09:13 AM

End prohibition and it all ends instantly.
"Drug cartels" become "Farmers".
"Drug runners" become "Delivery Men"
and the "War on drugs" becomes "International Commerce".

Instead of wasting astronomical amounts of money and lives, no one has to die, and astronomical amounts of money come IN, instead of going out. And just as with cigarettes & alcohol, people who don't drink and don't smoke don't buy the product. Why this is turned into some sort of a "huge problem" is beyond me. The solution is simple.

If cigarettes were outlawed tomorrow, you know there would be "Cigarette Wars" and "Cigarette Cartels" springing up the same day. It's not the substance, it's the broken backwards law.

IllTestYourGirls 06-19-2010 09:21 AM

Booze is a perfect example of that.

Amputate Your Head 06-19-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17263018)
Booze is a perfect example of that.

Yep. Which is why there's no excuse. They already have history as a perfect reference. People want what they want, and no "war on drugs" is ever going to stop that. It is a completely futile effort. Take down a cartel, another one will always replace it.

ottopottomouse 06-19-2010 09:40 AM

I know he is asking for assistance but it's not very good PR to do a press conference saying you can't cope.

Paul Markham 06-19-2010 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17262997)
End prohibition and it all ends instantly.
"Drug cartels" become "Farmers".
"Drug runners" become "Delivery Men"
and the "War on drugs" becomes "International Commerce".

Instead of wasting astronomical amounts of money and lives, no one has to die, and astronomical amounts of money come IN, instead of going out. And just as with cigarettes & alcohol, people who don't drink and don't smoke don't buy the product. Why this is turned into some sort of a "huge problem" is beyond me. The solution is simple.

If cigarettes were outlawed tomorrow, you know there would be "Cigarette Wars" and "Cigarette Cartels" springing up the same day. It's not the substance, it's the broken backwards law.

I agree with every word you said. However in the real world it will never happen.

IllTestYourGirls 06-19-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17263057)
I know he is asking for assistance but it's not very good PR to do a press conference saying you can't cope.

The Cartels already know they cant cope, so might as well get the presidents attention and call him out in public. :2 cents:

Vendzilla 06-19-2010 10:25 AM

SO the president is on the cartels side?

marketsmart 06-19-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17263057)
I know he is asking for assistance but it's not very good PR to do a press conference saying you can't cope.

that's how bad the situation is... this shit is getting completely out of hand... :2 cents:






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brassmonkey 06-19-2010 03:21 PM

off 16th street and oak 35th ave and van buren thats where they dwell and 32nd street and mcdowell

IllTestYourGirls 06-19-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17263133)
SO the president is on the cartels side?

And half of congress, remember the standing O they gave the president of the cartel erm I mean Mexico?

fl_prn_str 06-19-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17263090)
I agree with every word you said. However in the real world it will never happen.

actually it could.......it would only take one thing.....lobbyists.

but the sad reality is that the same way the porn world doesnt want to pay the game.....and its PAY not PLAY.....you will not advance in that type of environment.

why do you think the financial institutions, tobacco companies, alcoholic beverage companies, automobile industry and oil companies get away with so much while other "industries" that forget to "share the wealth" and have a simplistic approach to get rich quick.....and never play ball like the big boys.....the big boys learned a long time ago......contribute to the PAC of your choice and everything will be fine and good for you and your side on the hill.


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mikesinner 06-19-2010 03:59 PM

Problem is there really is no war on drugs in Arizona. For a war you need soldiers on both sides. I say send in the troops and let the American soldiers get active duty pay to send home to their families.

brassmonkey 06-19-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 17263651)
Problem is there really is no war on drugs in Arizona. For a war you need soldiers on both sides. I say send in the troops and let the American soldiers get active duty pay to send home to their families.

:1orglaugh well your talking two things there. i dont want troops in the city. are you talking about the border if so they need to be in all bordering states.

SpongeBub 06-19-2010 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17262997)
End prohibition and it all ends instantly.
"Drug cartels" become "Farmers".
"Drug runners" become "Delivery Men"
and the "War on drugs" becomes "International Commerce".

Instead of wasting astronomical amounts of money and lives, no one has to die, and astronomical amounts of money come IN, instead of going out. And just as with cigarettes & alcohol, people who don't drink and don't smoke don't buy the product. Why this is turned into some sort of a "huge problem" is beyond me. The solution is simple.

What's it like in that fantasy world of yours?

smax 06-19-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17262997)
End prohibition and it all ends instantly.
"Drug cartels" become "Farmers".
"Drug runners" become "Delivery Men"
and the "War on drugs" becomes "International Commerce".

Instead of wasting astronomical amounts of money and lives, no one has to die, and astronomical amounts of money come IN, instead of going out. And just as with cigarettes & alcohol, people who don't drink and don't smoke don't buy the product. Why this is turned into some sort of a "huge problem" is beyond me. The solution is simple.

If cigarettes were outlawed tomorrow, you know there would be "Cigarette Wars" and "Cigarette Cartels" springing up the same day. It's not the substance, it's the broken backwards law.




Agree but unfortunately since our "war on drugs" has been going on for over 35 years, our government and many private industries have figured out a way to capitalize on it.

If all drugs became legal tomorrow, The DEA, Judges, prosecutors, police officers, the many many private and government run prisons out there over filled with mandatory minimums drug offenses would all be put out of a job on that day.
That is several hundreds of thousands of people, unemployed in a day

fatfoo 06-19-2010 08:04 PM

I don't buy drugs. I don't sell drugs.

Rangermoore 06-20-2010 12:08 AM

I think I will buy some land in AZ and just shoot them as they come on my property... If more people would stand up to these punks the problem would go away.. Many years ago (25) I was afraid of death but after staring it in the face many many times since then and winning, I fear NO man...

Mr. E 06-20-2010 12:52 AM

If its spilling over into the US, it becomes a problem for the US and the solution is quite simple. They have to know where the leaders of these cartels live and where these guys meet. You send 4-5 blackhawks and a few bombers and you reduce every one of their mansions and places they meet to fucking rubble and kill as many as you can in the process. Thats should make them think twice about fucking around in the US. Then you put up a 20foot high electric fence over the border, station soldiers around it and shoot any fuckr that could actually make it over on sight. If Mexico wants to give us shit over it, big fucking deal, do something about it.

Rangermoore 06-20-2010 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. E (Post 17264199)
if its spilling over into the us, it becomes a problem for the us and the solution is quite simple. They have to know where the leaders of these cartels live and where these guys meet. You send 4-5 blackhawks and a few bombers and you reduce every one of their mansions and places they meet to fucking rubble and kill as many as you can in the process. Thats should make them think twice about fucking around in the us. Then you put up a 20foot high electric fence over the border, station soldiers around it and shoot any fuckr that could actually make it over on sight. If mexico wants to give us shit over it, big fucking deal, do something about it.

right on>>>!!!

brassmonkey 06-20-2010 06:20 AM

problem is the government milks the dealers. they let it happen.

$5 submissions 06-21-2010 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17262997)
End prohibition and it all ends instantly.
"Drug cartels" become "Farmers".
"Drug runners" become "Delivery Men"
and the "War on drugs" becomes "International Commerce".

Instead of wasting astronomical amounts of money and lives, no one has to die, and astronomical amounts of money come IN, instead of going out. And just as with cigarettes & alcohol, people who don't drink and don't smoke don't buy the product. Why this is turned into some sort of a "huge problem" is beyond me. The solution is simple.

If cigarettes were outlawed tomorrow, you know there would be "Cigarette Wars" and "Cigarette Cartels" springing up the same day. It's not the substance, it's the broken backwards law.


Exactly. Also a redefinition of "addiction" and a rethinking of addiction-related stigma.

NickB. 06-21-2010 08:14 PM

they should send some troops jesus christ

ASW 06-21-2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17262997)
End prohibition and it all ends instantly.
"Drug cartels" become "Farmers".
"Drug runners" become "Delivery Men"
and the "War on drugs" becomes "International Commerce".

Instead of wasting astronomical amounts of money and lives, no one has to die, and astronomical amounts of money come IN, instead of going out. And just as with cigarettes & alcohol, people who don't drink and don't smoke don't buy the product. Why this is turned into some sort of a "huge problem" is beyond me. The solution is simple.

If cigarettes were outlawed tomorrow, you know there would be "Cigarette Wars" and "Cigarette Cartels" springing up the same day. It's not the substance, it's the broken backwards law.

i 110% agree with you man

L-Pink 06-21-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17263057)
I know he is asking for assistance but it's not very good PR to do a press conference saying you can't cope.

Oh I'm sure he could handle the "problem" on his own. Is the rest of the country ready to see state controlled tanks take on a neighboring countries citizens is the question. I don't think they are ......


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GAMEFINEST 06-21-2010 09:29 PM

what an idiot...

leg4 06-21-2010 11:55 PM

I feel bad for these men trying to fight this war on the border.

ajrocks 06-22-2010 06:53 AM

America is a joke.... but Canada is worse. We legalized or tried to and let the US pressure us into not doing it. At least its only a small fine now.

brassmonkey 06-22-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 17269177)
America is a joke.... but Canada is worse. We legalized or tried to and let the US pressure us into not doing it. At least its only a small fine now.

canada isn't a super power. and there is a big difference in population.

canada

Population
2010 estimate 34,147,000

United States
Population
2010 estimate 309,558,000

like a giant town. :) you can't sit at the big people table yet. :pimp


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