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neonlights 06-22-2010 03:36 PM

idolbucks unlicensed Japanese content ?
 
picking up from https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=974219

someone mentioned idolbucks like many other Japanese paysites are using unlicensed JAV content.

is this true ?

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2010 03:45 PM

fuck off.

LickMyBalls 06-22-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 17270676)
fuck off.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

crazytrini85 06-22-2010 04:56 PM

Most of the Japanese sites use illegal content, just like the GF sites. Very few have a license to use Japanese content.

It doesn't matter though because they can get billing and all of you will still push them even if it is stolen content.

neonlights 06-22-2010 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17270930)
Most of the Japanese sites use illegal content, just like the GF sites. Very few have a license to use Japanese content.

It doesn't matter though because they can get billing and all of you will still push them even if it is stolen content.

wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?

munki 06-22-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17271095)
wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?

Welcome to the industry...:disgust:disgust

$5 submissions 06-22-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17271095)
wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?

More like having contacts in Japan buying JAV stuff from all over Japan (JAV is also sold by vending machines. Imagine that!), rip them, upload via torrent, US-based distributor downloads, does some minor processing, posts, profits.

Score after this process

Rippers/pirates: 1 Rights owners: 0

:Oh crap

gleem 06-22-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 17271102)
Welcome to the industry...:disgust:disgust

indeed, they have been doing it for years.

Pics Traffic 06-22-2010 06:03 PM

I guess its not. Nobody from Idol Bucks wants to thow in 2 cents?

neonlights 06-22-2010 06:19 PM

I emailed [email protected] but it says could not send to the address....

I am kind of shocked because I have also been promoting asiamoviepass.com.... could they also be using unlicensed shit ?

Why are rest of us paying for content ?

Is it because Japanese companies can't do shit against american distributors jacking their shit and putting in their paysite ?

Noe 06-22-2010 06:24 PM

Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.

neonlights 06-22-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noe (Post 17271197)
Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.

even myracequeens.com ?

Barefootsies 06-22-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noe (Post 17271197)
Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them.


Agent 488 06-22-2010 06:32 PM

welcome to the internet dork.

neonlights 06-22-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17271216)

what about your celeb content ? is it licensed or is it jacked from the web ?

Barefootsies 06-22-2010 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17271264)
what about your celeb content ? is it licensed or is it jacked from the web ?

What about your fourth nick on GFY after the banning of doridori/edori/lativia?

You're about due to be BANNED FOR LIFE at this point under the three strikes rule I'm thinking.
:2 cents:

neonlights 06-22-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17271273)
What about your fourth nick on GFY after the banning of doridori/edori/lativia?

You're about due to be BANNED FOR LIFE at this point under the three strikes rule I'm thinking.
:2 cents:

What's all this thread about you selling "stolen" content ? You have ignored all questions directed to you regarding this matter for a long time.

neonlights 06-22-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noe (Post 17271197)
Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.

hmm I'm thinking this is a shameless plug now because after viewing sites, I can't find the ones on idolbucks on your site.

Barefootsies 06-22-2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17271322)
What's all this thread about you selling "stolen" content ? You have ignored all questions directed to you regarding this matter for a long time.

I'll never understand why you and DarkJedi go through this dance with each new nick on your way to being banned again. I typically never out you initially, even when I know it's you. Then you follow the same pattern of events over and over.

However, I am not going to do this every time you get outted, and work on your next ban. You will just have to do your usual melt down like you always do, and be banned again. Although, this time I think you are going to be BANNED FOR LIFE.

Tata.

stickyfingerz 06-22-2010 08:04 PM

Ahh makes perfect sense now. DoriDori suuuuuueeee priiiizzzee :uhoh

fatfoo 06-22-2010 08:11 PM

Japanese women are beautiful.

fris 06-22-2010 08:19 PM

doridori how much for a scraper

webgurl 06-22-2010 10:52 PM

mine are licensed , I buy from direct from the studios I even have the 2257 model
release , lots of time you can tell if they are legit or not when you have
the matching videos + photosets (only the studios have full sets and access to this)
The license is expensive though it's almost the same price as shooting exclusive scenes
here via their non-exclusive dvd content .

neonlights 06-22-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17271446)
Ahh makes perfect sense now. DoriDori suuuuuueeee priiiizzzee :uhoh

did you get your kids back ?

tonyparra 06-22-2010 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17271683)
did you get your kids back ?

ouch .....low blow?

stickyfingerz 06-23-2010 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17271683)
did you get your kids back ?

You'll be banned within hours, so not going to waste the effort typing what a little cunt you are. :321GFY

neonlights 06-23-2010 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17271847)
You'll be banned within hours, so not going to waste the effort typing what a little cunt you are. :321GFY

shall I post the little site you made regarding the whole thing ?

Barefootsies 06-23-2010 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17271844)
Collecting from imagefap and pornbb ?

Nope. However, I thought I would start here.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=scraper
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=scraper
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=scraper
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=scraper

Then I thought I would take advantage of your other nick's specials.
http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/906081-easy-email-harvestor-add-sites-watch-extracts-millions-emails.html
http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/904970-craigslist-escort-scraper-millions-escort-listings-pictures.html
http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/905338-quality-adult-industry-emails-studios-companies-models-performers-etc.html
http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/905619-100-000-company-domain-info-includes-email-address-etc-400-a.html
http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/905471-200-000-adult-video-embed-codes.html
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/906984-programs-cookie-stuff-spam-em.html
:pimp

NickB. 06-23-2010 01:47 AM

nipporn.com = fully licensed at triplexcash.com

Hit me up if you need anything special besides getting paid on time and solid pps

HEAT 06-23-2010 02:49 AM

Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


Proof:
the original picture
http://www.maleextra-review.com/gra_yui029.jpg


cropped picture Idolbucks using
http://www.maleextra-review.com/15.jpg
http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

jaawhores 06-23-2010 03:16 AM

Can't tell exactly, but i am working with them for a long time and never had problems, they always pay in time, even this time, when webmaster checks had problems they paid to me without any delays.

About content i think they had license because they simple can't stay on the market for so long time without it.

idolbucks 06-23-2010 04:15 AM

We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

Mutt 06-23-2010 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idolbucks (Post 17272028)
We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.


:1orglaugh

CHARGER 06-23-2010 04:26 AM

Who really cares ? any of those picts belongs to anyone here ? no ! correct? people is getting paid here on time so why the drama ?



Haters we cant be without em :2 cents:

Mutt 06-23-2010 04:32 AM

you can also tell who isn't legit by the sheer amount of content they have - like ActionJav.com and 50 others like it. I've joined a few, photo content taken direct from the studios' own .jp paysites. The DVD's can be bought cheap from sites like Asian Screens who have no rights to be selling them.

i can tell which Japanese porn paysites are legit - IdolBucks isn't one of them.

but anyway since I can't be 100% sure I will do the right thing and let IdolBucks post a scanned copy of any legal licensing contract with any of these studios whose videos I see on your tours so you can clear your good name - Alice Japan, S1 No. 1 Style, Max-A, h.m.p - if you can do that I'll send you or a charity of your choice $100 via Paypal.

Mutt 06-23-2010 05:12 AM

my favorite JAV star Yuma Asami

http://xcity.jp/ALICE/vinfo/0803/jpg7/DV888.jpg

BestXXXPorn 06-23-2010 06:25 AM

Technically it's a giant gray area...

Content licensed in Japan does not have a US license therefor it can be used without fear of prosecution...

It's the reason why Japanese animation gets fan subbed and released in the US. However as soon as a US company actually licenses that content... you'll get a C&D...

shunga 06-23-2010 06:37 AM

They are shameless thieves. My partners have had repeated issues with them. Another company had to shut a site down because IB were all over their content whenever they released it. They're also shameless about ripping picture content. CCbill have had a bunch of reports but still process for them. IB are nothing but shameless thieves pumping out infringing sites, with no 2257.

Barefootsies 06-23-2010 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17272247)
Technically it's a giant gray area...

Content licensed in Japan does not have a US license therefor it can be used without fear of prosecution...

It's the reason why Japanese animation gets fan subbed and released in the US. However as soon as a US company actually licenses that content... you'll get a C&D...

"Connorson, you smart cookie for Gaijin!"
:2 cents:

Mutt 06-23-2010 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idolbucks (Post 17272028)
We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

come back here thief.

Pics Traffic 06-23-2010 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEAT (Post 17271939)
Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


Proof:
the original picture
http://www.maleextra-review.com/gra_yui029.jpg


cropped picture Idolbucks using
http://www.maleextra-review.com/15.jpg
http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

Looks cropped to me.
Did you have that one licensed?

avrevenue 06-23-2010 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 17271676)
mine are licensed , I buy from direct from the studios I even have the 2257 model
release , lots of time you can tell if they are legit or not when you have
the matching videos + photosets (only the studios have full sets and access to this)
The license is expensive though it's almost the same price as shooting exclusive scenes
here via their non-exclusive dvd content .

at avrevenue, we also have only licensed studio which are : Tora Tora Tora, Kamikaze, Jspot and some AV Box.
Agree with Liz, The license is very expensive compare to US Dvds and recent content came with the matching videos + photosets

LickMyBalls 06-23-2010 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idolbucks (Post 17272028)
We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

Working on this,

Marcus Aurelius 06-23-2010 08:59 AM

Idolbucks sell like crap.

neonlights 06-23-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEAT (Post 17271939)
Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


Proof:
the original picture
http://www.maleextra-review.com/gra_yui029.jpg


cropped picture Idolbucks using
http://www.maleextra-review.com/15.jpg
http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

really graphis ? so they are not licensing ? so they can't do anything about this ?

so which studios license and which don't ? how can you tell ?

neonlights 06-23-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idolbucks (Post 17272028)
We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

thanks for the clarification.

CamJack 06-23-2010 11:50 AM

How can one tell the difference either way?

Shoplifter 06-23-2010 11:55 AM

Bumping this for the lulz.

shunga 06-23-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17273186)
thanks for the clarification.

They're thieves. Fact. You can't expect an honest answer from them.

neonlights 06-23-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA (Post 17273204)
How can one tell the difference either way?

:Oh crap

then again what's the likelihood these paysites are gonna get lawyered? where is the 2257 when it's just jacking shit off the web ? Who is going to ask for that 2257 in what possible scenario, I can't think of any unless the site hovers around obscene? are you telling me that why only a letter from the attorney general but how likely is that ?

so in the end 2257 only applies to North American shit ?


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