BP: Sub has collided with hardware - Oil leak now worse than ever
 

Just saw this on CNN:

BP: One of the robot submarines has collided with a piece of hardware and made the oil gush worse than it has ever been.

And a few days ago, Lighting hit the Discovery Enterprise, starting a big fire.

The Gulf, is completely fucked.

i'm surprised bp didn't say it helped contain the leak.

it's a useless clusterfuck down there ... i would be surprised if they ever fixed it. They should of nuked it last month

Too many stupid cooks in that kitchen.

Drill , Baby Drill !

again with the nukes, jeez. god, it's irritating!

They need to get more wells drilled to relieve the pressure. Otherwise, it will just continue to leak and kill us all.

nuke that bitch now.

How many are they currently drilling?

a little nuclear fallout never hurt anybody

fucking unbelievable amount of incompetence in the Gulf

I hope these people can't sleep at night. I am just disgusted

why can't they just ram the sub into the hole and plug it?

if this fucker was in charge ...

http://www.charmr.com/images/gordonramsay311.jpg

... he would of shaped up that brigade along time ago

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A robotic submarine bumped into the containment cap atop the gushing well, forcing BP to remove the cap as a safety precaution. It was collecting as much as 16,000 barrels of oil a day in the BP oil spill. BP said it will try to reattach the cap Wednesday night.

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BP has removed the containment cap that had been responsible for collecting as much as 16,000 barrels of oil a day from the leaking well in the BP oil spill. A robotic submarine reportedly dented a critical vent in the system, forcing BP to detach the cap Wednesday morning as a safety precaution.


An attempt to reinstall the cap is expected later Wednesday, Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen said in a briefing.

The damaged vent is used to send warm water into the containment cap to prevent hydrates from freezing and clogging the system. It is uncertain how the remotely controlled device disrupted the cap system, Allen said.


The containment cap is a crucial element of the oil-recovery system now in place on the floor of the Gulf of Mexico. Since its installment in early June, the cap has collected oil and sent it upward to the Discoverer Enterprise, a drill ship that separates the oil from the water and natural gas also collected by the cap.
Second containment method still working

Before its removal, the cap was working in tandem with a flexible hose that is connected directly to the blowout preventer that failed on April 20. This hose, connected to the blowout preventer's choke line, leads to the Q4000, a second ship that is burning off 10,000 barrels of oil daily. This collection method is still working even with the containment cap removed.

A third ship is expected to arrive by the end of the month and connect to the blowout preventer's kill line, burning off an additional 25,000 barrels of oil each day.

BP is also building a separate system of flexible riser pipes that is expected to increase capacity to between 60,000 to 80,000 barrels a day. The flexible pipes would also make it easier for ships to couple and decouple in the event of a hurricane.

Allen said this system would be ready to operate by Tuesday.

I think I just watched the cap get re-installed. The camera is pulled back pretty wide now, but it looks like minimal oil is coming out now.

When I say minimal, I still mean a lot -- but quite a bit less than earlier.

unbelievable ..wait, not.

Directly from Tony Hayward... "I was not aware our robots could colid with equipment, these robots where made by someone else, I was not invovled in controling the robots so I am not responsible."

Watch him resign before the whole mess is done... the fucking CUNT!!!!

big big wow.

And permits to drill should NEVER be given unless at least 3 wells are drilled at once in case of a problem. For the only known fix to take months to complete is is as stupid as thinking something mechanical won't fail.


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They would be better off training monkeys to fix the fucking pipe, I mean fuck me, we can build space stations and shit but cant fix a hole in a pipe under water ? ... they want to shoot the cunt that said the the blowout preventer was ok in the first place and then use his corpse to plug the fucking hole until they get the monkeys trained to fix it properly lol

i blame the oil leak for the earthquake we just had up here.

we went to the moon :1orglaugh

don't make me come over there! :1orglaugh

What a clusterfuck.

russians did it 6 times, worked 5 times. Seems like a MUCH better success rate than what we're doing.

no, they did not. but i won't be getting into it again.

Fantastic....

that shit is in worse shape than the adult internet

fuck, we're all going to die.

it's the ultimate clusterfuck.

i've already started drinking a quart of oil a day and will increase that to 5 gallons a day...

i am conditioning my body to be able to survive when the planet is engulfed in oil..

i suggest you all do the same if you want to see the apocalypse in 2012....

thats when the reptiles come....






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Just wait until the underground pipes break and the sea floor gives way.

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Quick, dyno get ur snorkle mask and plug that hole bitch. I'm sure u could musker up enough shit from gfy alone to clog that hole for good

Or they're just saying that so they can claim whatever the end readings are were higher because of this, and not always gushing so much.

i'm on it! :1orglaugh

Agreed. Won't happen, but it should.

Might as well.

No they did not.

Definitely.

We had years of experience going into space. I believe this is the first time we have had this particular scenario.

That's the new concern popping up now. The piece underground is broken and tilting and probably going to snap off. They can't try to stop the flow, they need it to keep going, because if the line breaks, and the other holes they're making miss, the whole thing will weaken and collapse and there will be no way of ever stopping it.

I say we seize all of BP's money and shove it in the hole. There should be enough to plug several of them.

actually, its scary how much of the same position we have been in before



even trying the exact methods of capping it. that failed in 79 LOL "Operation Sombrero" LOL

There are 2 options:

1) Nuke the sea floor and kill a piece of the gulf.

2) Keep putting cotton balls in the pipe and hope that a really good speech will justify killing both the atlantic and gulf

Damn,getting from bad to worse..fuck

i continue to be optimistic that one of the 2 relief wells will work.

that will be at least 9 weeks away though, maybe longer. not to mention, actually capping the well after that with the drilling mud/concreting process.

and that's just 1 of the relief wells, add 2 weeks for the 2nd

And what happens when that nuke turns a basketball sized hole into a downtown sized glass dome, and then the dome breaks. Then you've got a downtown sized hole, ALL of the oil coming out, no chance of ever stopping it, and a shit ton of radioactive oil and fish.

put a smaller pipe in the hole with seals that inflate hydraulically, then heat the pipe, plain and simple

Don't they have nuclear weapons on subs to blow up russians?

Why all this craze with the term nuke, how about let's put a couple bombs on the floor to collapse the ground atop the oil reserve to stop all oil leaks?

Franz Gayl, a former science adviser to the US military, has proposed sealing off the leaking oil well in the Gulf of Mexico using a massive conventional bomb.

BBC News asked Mr Gayl how the idea might work and how successful it could really be at stemming the flow of oil from the Deepwater Horizon well. Mr Gayl stressed that he was speaking only on his own behalf.

Franz Gayl: I am speaking on the record as a concerned American citizen. My views do not represent my employers, namely the Marine Corps or the United States Government.

My information sources in the development of the idea are all open source such as Internet, other news sources, and my education. Finally, the idea has not been subjected to rigorous modeling, and remains at this time educated guesswork.

BBC: How long-lasting would the Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) bomb method be - would any additional techniques be required to secure the oil well longer-term?

FG: "If the implosive forces generated by the passing shock wave are sufficient to collapse metal plumbing and related low density cavities the desired deformation would be permanent. It is not known whether or not the collapse of pipes and cavities would be absolute with one detonation. Continued leakage, though reduced, is conceivable.

After assessing the effects of the first detonation the technique could be repeated to further constrict residual flow. However, once the released flow becomes negligible other non-explosive encasement techniques could be employed to decisively seal the well. Modelling must proceed immediately to better define shock wave requirements, and predict effects in this regard.

BBC: Also, how confident are you that this would work - is there a way you can quantify that?

FG: The technique must be modeled in order to get a ballpark estimate. Several variables can be relied upon up front.

The explosive force and dimensions of the MOAB, the explosive force of the cocktail of liquid oxygen, aluminum powder, and other potential accelerants added to augment the MOAB, the dimensions of the pressure vessel, the ambient water pressure, and the exact construction of the well head and all equipment in direct contact with the flow.

Other quantities that would need to be known for the model include the composition and structure of the seafloor immediately surrounding the well head out to the distance at which the radially expanding shock wave loses its peak pressure potency.

Also, the distance between the seafloor and the oil reserves below it would need to be considered to avoid unintended consequences., Finally, the effect of the oil plume, having different acoustic properties than the water, would have to be understood as this will affect shock wave propagation.

It is noteworthy that, as reported on CNN on 10 June, the Lawrence Livermore National Lab (LLNL) has modelled interactions of interest using different devices in the past and this data can be used to guide to new models. In summary, quantification of the workability of the idea depends on that modeling.

BBC: Are there any other potential outcomes from using the MOAB which could make the problem worse? How likely are they compared to the model you have proposed?

FG: The composition of the seafloor and the distance of oil reserves below that floor are key considerations. Without caution one could fracture natural containment structures if the oil is a shallow depth below the seafloor.

Also, if any man made structures in contact with oil flow are brittle, such as concrete, ceramics, etc. a lack of caution could crack those structures undesirably.

Finally, modeling will have to determine whether it is advantageous or disadvantageous to have the relatively small blast bubble of the enhanced MOAB intersect the targeted equipment. It is a safe prediction that metal plumbing will collapse under implosive forces of the passing shock wave.

However, it is less predictable what shearing, heat, and blast effects would have on that equipment if it is encompassed by the blast. It could improve the outcome, or it could be counter-productive. Again, quantification of unintended consequences also depends on modelling.

BBC: Just lastly - how quickly could a MOAB system be deployed to the leak?

FG: Educated guesswork leads me to believe that given the will this could be done within one to two weeks.

This is based entirely on the following assumptions, that 1) MOABs exist, 2) a pressure vessel can be found, converted, and/or constructed easily.

3) The easy accessibility of several tons of liquid oxygen canisters and several tons of sealed canisters of powdered aluminum (or magnesium), 4) the rapid availability of known MOAB data from the Air Force Research Lab and the contractor of government armaments manufacturer.

And 5) the willing assistance of the Department of Energy to provide past lab data on similar tests as well as in conducting the modeling of the present idea.