pirate bay now protected by the swedish Constitution
 

http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party...iament-010702/

it sort of funny lobbiest spend ungodly amounts of money to get a bogus case pushed thru
the political backlash gets the pirate party elected to the government
then they are using the constitution of the country to actually protect the pirate bay.

robbie that an example of doing something creative
it never been done before, and what most impressive is that actually turns the strenght of the lobbist into a weakness.

do something useful and tell me how to use torrents to promote an ebook.

fuck these pointless debates.

it will be what will be, they are not going down soon...

We can always invade and bomb the shit out of them. :1orglaugh

i doubt even the swedes would start facilitating the trade of "ass fucked teens VII" within the parliment

the seeders are the next targets. and people who take the content from torrents. who cares about the useless twits at PB

Well nobody can say they aren't resourceful.

Whether it ultimately succeeds or not, it sure is entertaining.

Bad idea:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/bamse/

you can't - use article directories instead; torrents are good for something that is well-known and in high denamd or something very niche

"specifically Parliamentary Immunity" - another loophole

their dot com can be confiscated by our gov and something tells me it will in some future.

"Now" protected... Gideon you "forgot" to quote this:

Of course, the plan can only take place if the Party wins some seats in the September 19th Elections, where there is a 4% barrier to overcome.

:error

This piece of shit thieving "party" has no snowballs chance in hell of getting it into the parlament to pull this scum.

The pirate party are nowhere near getting elected into Parliament of Sweden.

They have less than 0.5% of the votes, nothing to take seriously. They are never going to be able to raise enough votes in that short amount of time. Plus, if you are not currently in the parliament, the Election Authority will not print and distribute your ballots, you will have to do this at your own expense and efforts. Since there are thousands and yet thousands of voting places, it will be very costly to do so.

However, they did snag one seat in the EU Parliament and are getting some funding/representation through those channels.

So this whole thread is just more gideongallery propaganda/wishful thinking.

Tick Tock gideongallery...the clock is ticking on your beloved thieving piracy. And all your desperate posts on GFY aren't gonna change the reality.

You'd be better off actually learning some skills so you can WORK for a living instead of stealing everything off the internet.

why are you so passionate about this?

... and Gideon, it would not protect pirate bay or its users, only those hosting the website under the parole free "political" speech.

Even if the Swedish voters manage to get them into parliament they will get some "immune" politicians who abuse the constitution to encourage and push:

- theft and non credited copyright work
- tax fraud
- warez
- hacking
- stolen credit cards and passwords
- child abuse

... and the list goes on and on. :disgust

I have no problem with politicians who host and work for freedoms but they have to leave out the criminal activities. If they abuse the constitution, then they are doing exactly opposite of what they are "fighting" for...

he is basically a broken soul.

Trade sanctions.

Is anyone actually surprised by this?

gideon you are a dick.

.

setup a private tracker properly.

ok but pretty close

considering the outrage against the pirate bay conviction got them 7% with no political push, no party credibility (it didn't exist as a party)

given the 60 trillion a year in technological enhancement that is being held back because we don't have the fair use of access shifting i totally agree with a statement like this.
Especially when you consider that the copyright holders can get exactly the control they want by embracing the technology.

i can make the processings!

your expecting the impossible, no matter how much money the copyright lobbist throw at the government, the law has to go thru a question period.
The safe harbor provision didn't exist in the DMCA until after that question period. Which means what every change happens there will be balance.

The current pro fair use arguement is the treat it just like any other monopoly when the laws' new rights are used to squash fair use (3 times damage or lose the monopoly)

expect that trade off to happen if a new law comes, and that assumes the access shifting fair use right doesn't get thru the courts by then.

wow and that coming from the guy who can't figuire out the solutions himself and simply copies other peoples idea

you were asking warchild how he was doing it.

knowing what i know warchild can definately make that kind of money with tube
add torrents to the mix and he is under earning by a hell of a lot.

Isohunt.com :1orglaugh He's pissed about the injunction against his site.

"ok but pretty close"??

You claim pirate bay is now protected... No, it's not now and it's not eventually pirate bay but the "host of free speech" (the party). Stop spreading lies/trolling. Even if they got the votes, the Swedish people or parliament will never accept hosting such criminality (including child abuse) protected as political immunity. Shame on you to even cheer this kind of practice.

Unfortunately you don't know much of anything about how to sell adult.

Pornhub is THE biggest tube. They are an affiliate of mine. I'm getting MILLIONS of views on the vids. But the ctr is only a few HUNDRED and they've only managed a couple of sales after three months. I make more sales to CM through my tgps in a couple of hours.

That isn't theory. That is fact. The only way they monetized tube sites was through pre-paid ads for cams and dating. And that well is running dry.

I have no proof one way or another what Warchild does or doesn't do. He's just another nickname on GFY to me. I've never known one sponsor to tell me face to face that the guy who goes by the nickname "warchild" on GFY has any traffic to speak of OR sales.

Doesn't mean he doesn't. It just means that nobody knows if what he says is true or not. And again, that's not a good or bad thing. It's his business.

But I am a pretty open and transparent person. I'm cocky enought to KNOW that I can show you and everybody else what I do and how I do it and you still can't beat me at this game.

So gideongallery, if Pornhub is the biggest tube site and can't make actual sales...and makes the only money to speak of through pre-paid ads...how the hell do you THINK that people can buy tube traffic from much lesser tubes and much less traffic numbers and make good sales?

You don't even have a clue what good sales are as an affiliate because you are NOT one and you have never made good sales.

Again I say: Tick Tock. Your time is almost up and you know it.

the guys who tried to sell porno movie tickets to vcr owners didn't make sales either.

yet the still made sales to the guys who didn't own the vcr.

history is repeating itself, just because your to stupid to see the pattern doesn't mean warchild is too.



robbie you don't see the pattern because instead of actually figuiring out the new technology you just copy cat

your entire site design is a copy cat of a tube site, and it a bad one at that.

CM is a perfect example of doing live interaction wrong, the difference between doing it right and doing it wrong is less then 25 minutes of work.

You would make more buying links on email lists.


A bit more to it than protecting your content through opt-ins... That alone doesn't mean you will get leads and for sure doesn't mean sales.

Simply doing this doesn't produce more downloads, it doesn't help with trust or brand growth, you won't get noticed on search more, listed under multiple listings or even know what to name your product so you can leach off of others popularity and so on...

With all this talk, you gota give up more than "setup a private tracker" that's like asking me how to make money in porn and I say, open a paysite.

Setup a tracker. Tell users it's legal and fair to share all they have and find. When they get used to it, then tell how evil "copyright industry" and authorities are. Tell them that's why they need anonymity and then sell them VPN connectivity. Of course VPN and proxies are useless on the transparent p2p but the users do not know or too stupid, so they will pay.
You do not have to produce, you can exploit the poor and the stupid, and you do not have to take responsibility for anything by claiming yourself a "search engine" and "freedom fighter".
That's a clever scam. Until you end up with Bubba...

Gideongallery, on your first point...there is no "pattern". We only have a finite amount of things to sell in adult. I sell them all. I promote almost 500 different programs: paysites, dating, cams, toys, dvds...you name it, I've promoted it (you never have by the way).
So you can babble on all you want to.

BUT, no mainstream products allow themselves to be marketed on a porn site. It's in their TOS. Again, you don't have a clue.

And you also have ZERO idea of the live interaction we do on CM. You just don't understand this business in any way, shape or form. CM is the number one solo girl site in the world in traffic, amount of members, and retention. But according to you (a guy who has NEVER done ANYTHING), I don't know what I'm doing.

Sorry brother, but you are a loser. And you've spent years on GFY telling experts in their fields that they don't know what they are doing.
You've babbled to paysite owners that they don't know how to run a paysite...hell, you've even told Michael Fattorosi that he doesn't know what he's talking about legally. And he's a freakin' lawyer!

Meanwhile, you've done NOTHING except come on here jabbering about how much money you could make using a bit torrent. And yet you've never made a dime.

And those bit torrent sites themselves? THEY can't monetize it either except through pre-paid ads to dating and cam.

I can't fathom why you can't see that.

We are PORNOGRAPHERS. We sell porn. We can NOT sell mainstream products on a porn tube site. You can't do it. And they ONLY thing that you CAN do is sell pre-paid spots. I just told you that the largest tube site in the world is unable to sell paysite memberships.

Don't you think they've already TRIED to sell everything that CAN be sold on a porn site?

Of course they have. And as I already tried to tell you, there are a FINITE number of products that can be sold on a porn site.

I've been doing this since the mid-1990's gideongallery. I've made well over 10 million dollars in that time...just as an affiliate.

You have never done it. You've never made any money.
I think I have proven over and over all these years that I know how to sell porn.

You on the other hand have proven over and over all these years that you have achieved exactly nothing.

Yet you keep telling all of us that we don't know what we're doing when you don't even realize what we CAN and CAN'T sell on a pornsite.

It's like you're trying to tell guys who own a car dealership that they should be selling forks and spoons. It's just ridiculous. That's why I am merciless with you. You bring it on yourself with your smug know-it-all attitude when you have NOTHING to back it up.

even when used musicans upsells as an example i never said you should do EXACTLY the same thing.

that being said that not what we are talking about here.

i didn't sell a single mainstream product in my test because i am not an idiot

likewise i would try and sell tampons to gay guys.


robbie that like saying guys shooting porn on film knew how to sell vcr tapes. The market has shifted, you still argue your an expert because you know the old way of doing things.

You can make that arguement as many times as you want, it will never be true.

Like i said history is repeating itself, your just to stupid to see it.

actually it like telling guys selling buggy and buggy whips they should be selling automobiles.




bottom line is your full of shit
i told you that i would show all your friends exactly what to do, all you had to do was agree that if you used any of the stuff i taught them your content would go in the public domain.

You have never agreed to that term

If you truely believed i didn't know what i was talking about you would have taken that deal in the second

it would have been like taking a bet that gravity would stop working tomorrow,
you know it would never happen so you would simply take bet.

how about we put it to the test again

i will show you how to do live interaction correctly
if use the idea you agree to put your content into the public domain

we can negotiate a fair price to buy back for the public domain penalty afterwards
if the price is too high you can simple continue to make the mistake forever.

you actually have nothing to lose, since you only going to be stuck making the mistake your already making.

gideongallery, why don't you just show us your websites. Then we can judge. It's public, right?

Thank you! I really appreciate your article, in fact I think you deserve a thumbs up.






Spam comment on my blog...

Gideongallery you don't even fathom what I'm saying to you.

The "old way". To do what exactly? Sell a porn membership? I can outsell anybody...IF the sites aren't already given away 100% for free.

End of discussion. You are totally out of your league and have been since the first day you logged onto GFY.

We SELL PORN. Got it?

You sell NOTHING. Including your "training"

NOBODY is buying it. NOBODY is paying you. Because everybody who is experienced knows you are completely insane.

And I'm not making any "mistakes". My paysite is kicking ass and paying the bills (something you don't do).
But my AFFILIATE WORK is suffering because I can't and NOBODY can sell sites that are already available for free.

And YOU are the stupid one. Everyday another big affiliate program closes it's doors to affiliates because we affiliates can not make the kind of sales we once could.

It's all type ins now.

If you EVER make one dollar in the adult business (which you are NOT a part of) then please let us all know. Because so far you have done exactly nothing.

And your "expertise" is ZERO.

As was said in the movie "A Knight's Tale":

"You have been measured. You have been weighed. And you have been found wanting."

robbie you keep challenging me to prove myself
to put my money where my mouth is and prove to you i know what i am doing

i have agreed to do as long as you put up something

that how a bet works robbie

interesting how you never seem to take up the offer

you have no idea how much money i am making.

it all word

and it words you don't even believe since you keep refusing to take the bet

based on what warchild said, i am 99% certain all he is doing is using tube traffic
the difference is he is sending it to a landing page that fixes the mistake your making
and then simply redirecting it to their join page.

he is doing what you claim is impossible now.


says the guy who won't put his money where is mouth is.

this is the third offer to show you your mistakes

you could shut me up completely by simply taking the offer on the table.

if you truely believed you were not making the mistake you would have jumped at the chance

actions speak louder than word

yeah, please show us some public domain stuff you working with

Robbie: Don't walk into his shit everytime.

GideonGallery: Why not do something productive?

I'd take you up on that.

:) I don't need to take him up on It. As I doubt you really do....

Did they do any time shifting?

i keep trying
i have offered to show robbie his mistakes three times

this would all be done with if he simply took the bet.

Are you Robbie actually arguing with him self? That extremely idiotic thought just crossed my drunk mind....

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I never asked for a "bet"

I simply pointed out that I walk the walk, while you have done NOTHING but talk.

Why should I offer you any goddamn thing? You're just another surfer in here running his dick suckers. Don't you have any ambition or drive? Any goals?

Nobody had to offer me a goddamn thing. I stepped up and made my way.

What's stopping you?

Oh, that's right...you can't.

Do you see that gideongallery?

There are a couple of guys with balls. They have confidence in themselves and feel they have the skill set to succeed and do it better than anybody else.

That's the prerequisite to success right there.

Where is your confidence? Why can't you do just ONE thing to make money ONE time and show me you are the man?

I'm making money right now...hey I just blinked my eyes and made a hundred bucks. And I'm doing it all day everyday 24/7. What are you doing?

If you're such a bad ass....then don't show anybody anything. Just become an affiliate and make all the money. Smartass.

I wonder if the guys at PussyCash would tell me what a big affiliate you are for them?

Nope. I'll bet you don't send them anything. All of those genius theories of yours and you can't even make them work on the easiest sell in the biz: cams.

gideongallery, we sell PORN here. If you can't understand that we are unable to sell our product when it's given away for free already and that there are only a FEW things we can sell on a porn site...then you are delusional.

Why don't you leave the PORN forum, and go hang out on your beloved torrent forums. And there, you and all the other couch potatoes with visions of grandeur can scheme how you could make millions selling OTHER things using porn if only you weren't being held back by "the man". :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

A new perspective and more info never hurt anything. :2 cents: