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Mutt 07-04-2010 05:14 PM

possible for adult industry to launch a class action lawsuit against Google?
 
It's been going on a long time, Google's top search results dominated by copyright infringing sites and sites that enable it. it's reaching almost 100% saturation now where you can search for a popular pornstar or web model and it is all torrents, rapidshare, forums/blog with direct download links.

that's not Google's secret algorithim at work serving up quality sites that best match a surfer's search query, it's Google giving surfers what they think/assume they want, free copyright infringing content.

is there a good legal case to be made you think?

Agent 488 07-04-2010 05:18 PM

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Jakez 07-04-2010 05:22 PM

Google doesn't know the inner-workings of a site, which is why they will list all the free tubes first, because those free tubes are actually what surfers want and are flocking to. However it definitely wouldn't hurt to get them (illegal tubes) taken out of the equation.

Edit: on second thought, since porn is a MAJOR traffic giant on the internet, they should be doing some kind of look into the sites they are listing for the most popular terms, but who knows what their motive is.. if these major illegal tubes are really doing something illegal then there should be a way for Google to get access to this information and ban their domain.. obviously no one is stopping the illegal tubes?

Mutt 07-04-2010 05:24 PM

well there ya go - the music industry is doing it. so should we.

Brujah 07-04-2010 05:26 PM

Viacom lost its YouTube battle. I'm not sure I'd bother.

Mutt 07-04-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17308021)
Viacom lost its YouTube battle. I'm not sure I'd bother.

i didn't see that news - shit if it's true.

Mutt 07-04-2010 05:38 PM

wow, it is true, dismissed the case before it even went to trial.

i really thought that case was going to be huge and might be a partial victory for Viacom and all copyright owners.

we're fucked, until a new law gets passed - and when it does it will also be a law with holes a copyright infringer can run through.

JBlack 07-04-2010 05:41 PM

^ its true alright.... shits sucks big time for the adult industry. We need to infiltrate more lobbyist or get a few senators to work for us...

Zorgman 07-04-2010 05:49 PM

Google is god, he will strike you down.

Nysus 07-04-2010 05:53 PM

Google and big search engines should partner with porn producers to get a cut. Everyone will win.

Oh wait, the surfer won't - it won't be as easy to find free porn..

signupdamnit 07-04-2010 05:57 PM

I don't believe going after Google makes sense. Go after the sites directly. Issue takedown notices. Make it so those rankings are meaningless, so the Rapidshare links all go to "File not found" pages. Sure it means a lot of work but it can be done.

Dirty Dane 07-04-2010 06:00 PM

Considering the size of this industry, all the past Google spammers and everything told by the SEO "experts" within it, it's kind of weird that the infringing index sites can duplicate each other and push themselves to the top on Google.

signupdamnit 07-04-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17308066)
Considering the size of this industry, all the past Google spammers and everything told by the SEO "experts" within it, it's kind of weird that the infringing index sites can duplicate each other and push themselves to the top on Google.

Keep in mind that they have been tracking outgoing clicks for a while now. If the algorithm takes those results into account (and even more so if it is more dynamically adaptive than we imagine) it can over time favor such results moving to the top. It's only natural that surfers learn to click known pirate tube sites and pirate forums before other unknown links once doing so in the past has already yielded them favorable results.

RogerV 07-04-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17308005)
It's been going on a long time, Google's top search results dominated by copyright infringing sites and sites that enable it. it's reaching almost 100% saturation now where you can search for a popular pornstar or web model and it is all torrents, rapidshare, forums/blog with direct download links.

that's not Google's secret algorithim at work serving up quality sites that best match a surfer's search query, it's Google giving surfers what they think/assume they want, free copyright infringing content.

is there a good legal case to be made you think?

I totally agree with you:thumbsup

EliteWebmaster 07-04-2010 09:41 PM

Agreed, damn I hate those freaking torrent sites, if you are unfortunate to click on it thinking it's a legit site, you are either spammed or the pop ups attempts crashes your browser. Google should get their act together and curb those stupid sites

Jack Sparrow 07-04-2010 11:15 PM

Dont waste your time and money.

LickMyBalls 07-04-2010 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 17308014)
Google doesn't know the inner-workings of a site, which is why they will list all the free tubes first, because those free tubes are actually what surfers want and are flocking to. However it definitely wouldn't hurt to get them (illegal tubes) taken out of the equation.

Edit: on second thought, since porn is a MAJOR traffic giant on the internet, they should be doing some kind of look into the sites they are listing for the most popular terms, but who knows what their motive is.. if these major illegal tubes are really doing something illegal then there should be a way for Google to get access to this information and ban their domain.. obviously no one is stopping the illegal tubes?

Bullshit.. Google's little college kid cadets, running the backoffice legal dept, are on the take... big time.

papill0n 07-04-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 17308311)
Agreed, damn I hate those freaking torrent sites, if you are unfortunate to click on it thinking it's a legit site

:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nathan 07-05-2010 12:19 AM

Google can hardly ban tube sites which work under the same exact logic as youtube. That would be them admitting youtube is illegal... will obviously never happen.

Mr Pheer 07-05-2010 12:43 AM

Its not possible because you cannot get the idiots in this business to work together on anything. Its everyone for himself and they'll stab you in the back when you arent looking.

Jack Sparrow 07-05-2010 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackie Lantern (Post 17308444)
Its not possible because you cannot get the idiots in this business to work together on anything. Its everyone for himself and they'll stab you in the back when you arent looking.

Quote of the year, can i use it in my sig?:thumbsup

pradaboy 07-05-2010 02:10 AM

Well first problem would be how are you ever going to organize an alliance? Some, if not most really big programs have interests in the free tubes and forums. It's too much of a clusterfuck to ever work.

seeandsee 07-05-2010 03:32 AM

they will just say "it's algorithm" , we can't change that

ottopottomouse 07-05-2010 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 17308311)
Agreed, damn I hate those freaking torrent sites, if you are unfortunate to click on it thinking it's a legit site, you are either spammed or the pop ups attempts crashes your browser. Google should get their act together and curb those stupid sites

How do you manage to accidentally click on a torrent site thinking it's legitimate?

Maybe you're the sort of person looking for websites about kittens that accidentally types in 'pictures of athletic black men with big hard cocks' and is then shocked by the results.

billywatson 07-05-2010 10:13 AM

You're asking the "adult industry" to do something as a collective whole?

LOL

Nysus 07-05-2010 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17308038)
wow, it is true, dismissed the case before it even went to trial.

i really thought that case was going to be huge and might be a partial victory for Viacom and all copyright owners.

we're fucked, until a new law gets passed - and when it does it will also be a law with holes a copyright infringer can run through.

I still say they should be required to show they are removing the content as quickly as is technologically possible.

Nysus 07-05-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17309397)
You're asking the "adult industry" to do something as a collective whole?

LOL

"adult industry" is the wrong network to try to coerce into action - it's Content Producers / copyright holders that need to rally.


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