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crazytrini85 07-20-2010 09:54 AM

Anyone else having VERY slow ccbill sales the past 2 days?
 
What the shit happened? I was rocking and then the past 2 days literally nothing, which is very unusual for me. A no sale day for me, let along 2 no sale days is like a solar eclipse.

cybermike 07-20-2010 09:57 AM

Man I usually wake up to a few sale emails and today its dry as hell

Fat Panda 07-20-2010 09:59 AM

thats been the story with ccbill lately.....

The Porn Nerd 07-20-2010 10:09 AM

Had to switch my cascade to Epoch because: 10,000 uniques to my best converting site overnight and......2 fucking sales. TWO! Should've been 8-15, somewhere in that range.

This shit has been happening since Sunday. Sales are great, you think you're gonna have a good week - BLAM! Two shitty days that ruin your whole week.

Maybe Epoch will perform better.

Paul&John 07-20-2010 10:15 AM

Yap, the last few days were a lot slower, before that it was pretty awesome

TeenCat 07-20-2010 10:21 AM

i dont know i am making my one or two sales daily :) cant help much here :)

iSpyCams 07-20-2010 10:36 AM

I have been browsing through my decline reason emails and it looks like there are alot of bank processing errors and similar stuff in the declines. I think there may have been a loose wire that needed to be jiggled somewhere, I am sure they'll fix it soon, if they haven't already.

Jakez 07-20-2010 10:40 AM

Some sales with one sponsor back to back some days, then none for a few days while other sponsors sell on those none days.. it's kinda like leapfrog, gotta be pushing more than one site lol.

Although my ccbill ratios are way down compared to usual, only half of the sites I push are with ccbill and a larger majority of the ones non-ccbill convert great compared to the ones on ccbill..

spunky99 07-20-2010 10:42 AM

yesterday was a pretty good day for us

Argos88 07-20-2010 12:07 PM

are you kidding?

when will people learn to take the whole month into consideration?..

a single day means shit... nothing.. zero, nada... take the whole month period.. or at least 15 day.. otherwise you are not serious.

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CCBill Paul 07-20-2010 12:24 PM

I would be happy to take a look or run some tests if anyone thinks there is a problem.

paulk @ ccbill.com

The Porn Nerd 07-20-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul (Post 17349394)
I would be happy to take a look or run some tests if anyone thinks there is a problem.

paulk @ ccbill.com

PLEASE feel free to "run some tests", "look under the hood", "kick the tires", etc etc, because I'm getting fucking SICK of these oddball sales patterns Paulk (and everyone else at CCBill). I have 3 sales today - THREE - and that is fucking ridiculous. My "opinion"? CCBill either isn't putting through the forms because they KNOW they'll get rejected by their merchant banks, or the merchant banks themselves have told CCBill et al to "slow it down/turn down the submits". There IS such a thing as "put-through" ratios.

So yes Paulk, run a thousand tests, then please tell me how everything is fine and how it's summer, explain all the x factors again, etc etc. But what I would like to see, the data I mean, is how many fill out the form, submit it to CCBill, then.....what happens? Does CCBill absolutely, every single time submit the form to the banks or does CCBill et al do a bit of their own 'screening'? I wouldn't get a decline notice if the form was never even submitted to the banks in the first place, would I?

Listen, I understand, I really do. It can't rain sales 24/7. But having to anticipate these 'patterns' like I'm some fucking psychic every day is getting really, really old. Switch the cascade? Find another biller? Go merchant account so I can better control billing? Yeesh. How about a few fucking weeks where everything remains THE SAME? That would be so nice.

18teens 07-20-2010 12:57 PM

Things are slow across the board, not just at CCBill.

The Porn Nerd 07-20-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18teens (Post 17349539)
Things are slow across the board, not just at CCBill.

Yes true, and it's Tuesday, and it's summertime, and we're in a recession, and Wall Street took a hit, and there's always the tubes....

Sigh grrrr sigh is all I can say. :D

Caligari 07-20-2010 01:15 PM

yep, last few days for me have been crap. not just ccbill, across the board.

first two weeks in july kicked butt, then after the 17th....sucking.
but this is a pattern, seems to happen most months to a greater or lesser degree.

CCBill Paul 07-20-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17349497)
PLEASE feel free to "run some tests", "look under the hood", "kick the tires", etc etc, because I'm getting fucking SICK of these oddball sales patterns Paulk (and everyone else at CCBill). I have 3 sales today - THREE - and that is fucking ridiculous. My "opinion"? CCBill either isn't putting through the forms because they KNOW they'll get rejected by their merchant banks, or the merchant banks themselves have told CCBill et al to "slow it down/turn down the submits". There IS such a thing as "put-through" ratios.

So yes Paulk, run a thousand tests, then please tell me how everything is fine and how it's summer, explain all the x factors again, etc etc. But what I would like to see, the data I mean, is how many fill out the form, submit it to CCBill, then.....what happens? Does CCBill absolutely, every single time submit the form to the banks or does CCBill et al do a bit of their own 'screening'? I wouldn't get a decline notice if the form was never even submitted to the banks in the first place, would I?

Listen, I understand, I really do. It can't rain sales 24/7. But having to anticipate these 'patterns' like I'm some fucking psychic every day is getting really, really old. Switch the cascade? Find another biller? Go merchant account so I can better control billing? Yeesh. How about a few fucking weeks where everything remains THE SAME? That would be so nice.

I cannot go into all of the checks that we do when processing a transaction but yes, there are a few reasons why a transaction would not make it past our checks. If a decline is given on a transaction before it is sent to the banking network we record it as a 'pre-auth' decline and you and the customer are notified. We have full reports detailing the declines we issue and we are happy to point you in the direction of them or compile them for you whenever you would like.

The Porn Nerd 07-20-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul (Post 17349670)
I cannot go into all of the checks that we do when processing a transaction but yes, there are a few reasons why a transaction would not make it past our checks. If a decline is given on a transaction before it is sent to the banking network we record it as a 'pre-auth' decline and you and the customer are notified. We have full reports detailing the declines we issue and we are happy to point you in the direction of them or compile them for you whenever you would like.

Thank you Paul. You know I love and trust CCBill. It's just that on days such as these - oh, days such as these (sounds like a song or a bad soap opera) - I search for reasons and, finding few, look deeper.

It IS mid-afternoon here in NYC so perhaps by day's end sales patterns will return to 'normal'. Good to know about those 'pre-auths', too. :)

stocktrader23 07-20-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17349347)
are you kidding?

when will people learn to take the whole month into consideration?..

a single day means shit... nothing.. zero, nada... take the whole month period.. or at least 15 day.. otherwise you are not serious.

.

You're right. If I get 1,000 or more joins per day then drop to 0 for a couple of days it means nothing.

Actually, you're wrong. What you say is true up to a point but once you hit a certain number of joins going 2 days with none is so astronomically impossible that you are allowed to say "Hmm, what the fuck is up?" without some douchebag being smarmy about it.

Cheers :)

The Porn Nerd 07-20-2010 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17349694)
You're right. If I get 1,000 or more joins per day then drop to 0 for a couple of days it means nothing.

Actually, you're wrong. What you say is true up to a point but once you hit a certain number of joins going 2 days with none is so astronomically impossible that you are allowed to say "Hmm, what the fuck is up?" without some douchebag being smarmy about it.

Cheers :)

Exactly.

Klen 07-20-2010 03:12 PM

This month ccbill ratio:1:40000

Argos88 07-20-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17349694)
You're right. If I get 1,000 or more joins per day then drop to 0 for a couple of days it means nothing.

Actually, you're wrong. What you say is true up to a point but once you hit a certain number of joins going 2 days with none is so astronomically impossible that you are allowed to say "Hmm, what the fuck is up?" without some douchebag being smarmy about it.

Cheers :)

Really? Wow.. you must be Billionaire... you make at least 1000 joins per day with ccbill.. incredible... What are your secret and magic sites?

so, 99% of webmasters must be wrong then...

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stocktrader23 07-20-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17350769)
Really? Wow.. you must be Billionaire... you make at least 1000 joins per day with ccbill.. incredible... What are your secret and magic sites?

so, 99% of webmasters must be wrong then...

.

Is your IQ 60 or something?

crazytrini85 07-20-2010 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17350769)
Really? Wow.. you must be Billionaire... you make at least 1000 joins per day with ccbill.. incredible... What are your secret and magic sites?

so, 99% of webmasters must be wrong then...

.

You really just showed how inexperienced you are what just what small potatoes you are. :2 cents:

While I personally do not make 1000+ of joins a day, I know several guys who do, with a 1000+ rebills a day on top of it.

Barefootsies 07-21-2010 12:14 AM

It sounds like you need to talk to mcfadden about your CCB join page.
:winkwink:

Argos88 07-22-2010 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17350895)
You really just showed how inexperienced you are what just what small potatoes you are. :2 cents:

While I personally do not make 1000+ of joins a day, I know several guys who do, with a 1000+ rebills a day on top of it.

u don't even make 20 per day... so, better shut up, boy. :winkwink:

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Stephen 07-22-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17349940)
This month ccbill ratio:1:40000

Folks like to bullshit about their traffic volumes, conversion ratios and income, but discounting the reps that will come in and reply how their proggie converts at 1:10, the big question going forward, if folks want to accept this as "the new market reality," is:

Can YOU profitably sustain a legitimate paysite with ratios as poor as 1:100,000?

Personally, I think anyone in the paysite game (or entering it today) needs to calculate break-even points, etc. with that level of conversion in mind. This will also doubtless affect WHAT a paysite entails and the type / amount of content the customer expects for their cash -- but given the bounty of tubes today, you won't get away with content like the old "blowout" sites, with a handful of Z-Master galleries and some old feeds.

So, what can we do to please customers and PROFIT at 1:100,000?

RyuLion 07-22-2010 10:06 AM

nuf said.
http://ryulion.com/images/stats.jpg

footmonkey 07-22-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 17355159)

Great ratio!

I'm sure many people in this thread had a great June aswell, the OP was specifically about a few days in July!

Shoplifter 07-22-2010 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17349694)
You're right. If I get 1,000 or more joins per day then drop to 0 for a couple of days it means nothing.

Actually, you're wrong. What you say is true up to a point but once you hit a certain number of joins going 2 days with none is so astronomically impossible that you are allowed to say "Hmm, what the fuck is up?" without some douchebag being smarmy about it.

Cheers :)


Couldn't have said it better.

epitome 07-22-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 17355135)
Folks like to bullshit about their traffic volumes, conversion ratios and income, but discounting the reps that will come in and reply how their proggie converts at 1:10, the big question going forward, if folks want to accept this as "the new market reality," is:

Can YOU profitably sustain a legitimate paysite with ratios as poor as 1:100,000?

Personally, I think anyone in the paysite game (or entering it today) needs to calculate break-even points, etc. with that level of conversion in mind. This will also doubtless affect WHAT a paysite entails and the type / amount of content the customer expects for their cash -- but given the bounty of tubes today, you won't get away with content like the old "blowout" sites, with a handful of Z-Master galleries and some old feeds.

So, what can we do to please customers and PROFIT at 1:100,000?

1:100,000? Really? Has it gotten that bad for people out there? If a program doesn't do better than 1:2000 they won't get more links.

Outside of pop unders, my three worst ratios this month are 1:1735, 1:1371, 1:1101.

The three best are 1:41, 1:314 and 1:492.

Mostly tube, blog and TGP traffic.

I did not include programs I stopped actively promoting ... like one I am trying to filter out (still have some links here and there usually in blog posts) where it is 0:2227 for the month.


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