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kane 08-02-2010 05:02 PM

Looks like Peepshow cash is scamming. Is Webair involved?
 
I have promoted Peepshow Cash for a while and they missed their last payment to me. When I emailed to ask about it all three emails I sent were not responded to. To humor myself I email them from my gmail account and I just ask them if they are still an active program accepting new affiliates. That email got a quick response from them telling me that the are still around and they would answer any questions I had. When I then asked about the payment owed to me there was silence. No response.

The guy who replied to me is named Steve Covert with an email addy of [email protected]

I'm not sure if the program has anything to do with webair or or if this is just a general email anyone can get who is a webair customer.

Anyway, I guess Peepshow Cash can be added to the list of those who will take your traffic and not pay.

~Ray 08-02-2010 05:06 PM

http://www.advertisingsex.com/drama.jpg

alias 08-02-2010 05:07 PM

In before post proof. Good luck kane.

~Ray 08-02-2010 05:08 PM


MaDalton 08-02-2010 05:46 PM

lol - fast response to lure in new affiliates but no response to please pay me mails - this biz is sooo full of shitheads

CYF 08-02-2010 05:48 PM

doesn't look good.

Nikki_Licks 08-02-2010 05:51 PM

I hope you get this resolved. Seems like everyday there is a new story of someone getting screwed over...sigh

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-02-2010 05:53 PM

Webair email address?

that means one thing.

imabro 08-02-2010 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17382720)
I'm not sure if the program has anything to do with webair or or if this is just a general email anyone can get who is a webair customer.

never heard of a web host that gave email accounts like that

Phoenix 08-02-2010 06:37 PM

that sounds strange..hope you get paid

kane 08-02-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imabro (Post 17382836)
never heard of a web host that gave email accounts like that

Yeah it struck me as odd too.

Platinumpimp 08-02-2010 06:45 PM

Whats the IP it came from, as you can trace it back.

Agent 488 08-02-2010 06:46 PM

i just opened a support ticket with steve. we'll see what he says.

kane 08-02-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17382888)
i just opened a support ticket with steve. we'll see what he says.

Cool. I never thought of that. I wasn't sure if Steve was someone who worked for webair or not.

Agent 488 08-02-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17382942)
Cool. I never thought of that. I wasn't sure if Steve was someone who worked for webair or not.

ha ha was just kidding.

kane 08-02-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinumpimp (Post 17382885)
Whats the IP it came from, as you can trace it back.

Any idea how I can find this out? I sent the email to him from Gmail, but I'm no expert so I'm not sure how to see what IP his reply was sent from.

kane 08-02-2010 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17382957)
ha ha was just kidding.

LOL. If I had an webair account I would do this :)

Ethersync 08-02-2010 07:15 PM

Peepshow Cash is hosted by Webair.

Phoenix 08-02-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17382964)
Peepshow Cash is hosted by Webair.

are you sure about that?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-02-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17382720)

The guy who replied to me is named Steve Covert.

http://www.websourceinfo.com/Games/i...0Operation.jpg

I hope you get paid...

ADG

Agent 488 08-02-2010 07:21 PM

http://www.markosweb.com/www/peepshowcash.com/

This site hosted at
Webair Internet Development Company

CYF 08-02-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17382958)
Any idea how I can find this out? I sent the email to him from Gmail, but I'm no expert so I'm not sure how to see what IP his reply was sent from.

when you're looking at the message, at the top right is a dropdown menu that says reply. One of the options is "Show Original". Choose that.

imabro 08-02-2010 07:26 PM

Tracing route to peepshowcash.com [67.55.104.37]

8 94 ms 94 ms 98 ms 208.178.245.150
9 107 ms 104 ms 96 ms dsa010.nyc6.webair.net [209.200.28.59]
10 111 ms 91 ms 101 ms epcashnats.webair.com [67.55.104.37]

Trace complete.

lagcam 08-02-2010 07:31 PM

Please wait, I need to just consider something for a moment.

A webhost that hosts many adult programs, owns an adult program themselves......

OK, carry on.

BigDeanEvans 08-02-2010 07:46 PM

http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/...s-is-going.jpg

Black Ops 08-02-2010 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imabro (Post 17382986)
Tracing route to peepshowcash.com [67.55.104.37]

8 94 ms 94 ms 98 ms 208.178.245.150
9 107 ms 104 ms 96 ms dsa010.nyc6.webair.net [209.200.28.59]
10 111 ms 91 ms 101 ms epcashnats.webair.com [67.55.104.37]

Trace complete.

You need to back trace it. :2 cents:

kane 08-02-2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17382981)
when you're looking at the message, at the top right is a dropdown menu that says reply. One of the options is "Show Original". Choose that.

Interesting what I find when I do that.

Received: by 10.231.157.145 with SMTP id b17cs71598ibx;
Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:29:00 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 10.227.157.70 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.227.157.70;
Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 10.227.157.70 as permitted sender) [email protected]; dkim=pass [email protected]
Received: from mr.google.com ([10.227.157.70])


Looks like he is using a gmail account too, but the name says it all. Looks like Webair is involved with this site.

ilbb 08-03-2010 02:44 AM

good gfy detectives

RazorSharpe 08-03-2010 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17383284)
Interesting what I find when I do that.

Received: by 10.231.157.145 with SMTP id b17cs71598ibx;
Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:29:00 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 10.227.157.70 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.227.157.70;
Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 10.227.157.70 as permitted sender) [email protected]; dkim=pass [email protected]
Received: from mr.google.com ([10.227.157.70])


Looks like he is using a gmail account too, but the name says it all. Looks like Webair is involved with this site.

Why does it mean webair is involved with this site? By that logic, if I create a gmail address like [email protected] this could be interpreted as Steve working for google? Perhaps I'm missing something here 'coz what you are insinuating doesn't make sense to me.

erooup 08-03-2010 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 17383547)
Why does it mean webair is involved with this site? By that logic, if I create a gmail address like [email protected] this could be interpreted as Steve working for google? Perhaps I'm missing something here 'coz what you are insinuating doesn't make sense to me.

If they host with Webair, use [email protected] as his public email, and use a google mail called webairsteve, I think its fair to ask if they have something to do with webair.

I doubt they have something to do with it, and would guess its just a default name from a NATS install.

But nothing wrong in asking.

DVTimes 08-03-2010 05:00 AM

bump 4 you

CDSmith 08-03-2010 05:09 AM

Does the scumbaggery in this business know no bounds?

Kane, does this program have a phone number? I'm more of a get them on the line and get shit sorted out kind of guy meself, and so far it's worked well for me.

Best of luck with it either way.

seeandsee 08-03-2010 05:09 AM

try on icq: 158480125

Ethersync 08-03-2010 05:20 AM

PeepshowCash.com is registered to J2 Incorporated in Florida which is an inactive corporation according to the Florida Secretary of State: http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...fili ng_type=

J2 Incorporated is also the company that Netbilling references: https://secure.netbilling.com/gw/nat...0318063061:001

I did see that some of PeepshowCash's sites are registered to PSTAR, LLC which is still active:
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...f iling_type=

On the Rules page they list this address and phone number:

PeepShowCash
1333A North Avenue
Suite 342
New Rochelle, NY 10804

Phone Number: 1-877-878-6050
Mon-Fri, 9am – 5pm EST.

The address 1333A North Avenue seems to be a popular post office/remailing address: http://www.google.com/search?q=1333A+North+Avenue

The domains are registered to [email protected] and a quick search for jfbane came up with:
http://twitter.com/JFBane
http://whois.domaintools.com/jfbane.com
http://whois.domaintools.com/tush.net

Tush.net Whois gives the phone number: 917-612-1797. Might be worth a try.

RazorSharpe 08-03-2010 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erooup (Post 17383641)
If they host with Webair, use [email protected] as his public email, and use a google mail called webairsteve, I think its fair to ask if they have something to do with webair.

I doubt they have something to do with it, and would guess its just a default name from a NATS install.

But nothing wrong in asking.

"Looks like webair is involved"
"Looks like webair maybe involved"

Probably a matter of semantics but the first example reads to me like he is pretty sure they are involved.

In any case, this industry has shown us time and time again the lengths that certain individuals will go to cover up their nefarious activities and creating an email address like [email protected] just seems kinda suspicious if they [webair] have managed to cover up their involvement with the site/program in question for this long.

Food for thought; I don't host with webair and I never have or will so I don't have a horse in this race.

Agent 488 08-03-2010 05:53 AM

i showed my dad my gmail addy he almost cried he was so happy that i finally made it in life.

pradaboy 08-03-2010 05:53 AM

Well that certainly looks like WebAir is involved.

BigDeanEvans 08-03-2010 06:06 AM

No comment from webair??

BigDeanEvans 08-03-2010 06:33 AM

wakey wakey webair...the community would like to know if you're involved in this unscrupulous site...

erooup 08-03-2010 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 17383726)
"Looks like webair is involved"
"Looks like webair maybe involved"

Probably a matter of semantics but the first example reads to me like he is pretty sure they are involved.

In any case, this industry has shown us time and time again the lengths that certain individuals will go to cover up their nefarious activities and creating an email address like [email protected] just seems kinda suspicious if they [webair] have managed to cover up their involvement with the site/program in question for this long.

Food for thought; I don't host with webair and I never have or will so I don't have a horse in this race.

That is why it's ok to ASK before we start assuming :pimp

CaptainHowdy 08-03-2010 06:52 AM

Welcome to 2010...

webair 08-03-2010 11:12 AM

WOW that got out of control rather quickly! Apologies for the delayed response, been busy with the new http://www.webair.com site launch!! (shameless plug =)

We are just the host for peeshowcash.com, and provide web design for some of their campaigns. As for [email protected] I have no idea who that is...
I contacted the program owners and pointed the contact email to them accordingly.

If you have any issues with the program itself it should be directed to the following contacts:

[email protected]

The other address posted above [email protected] is the direct PERSONAL contact for the program manager as well...good detective work Ethersync ;)

Or you can simply Call: 954.401.9999

The program is owned by EOL (Erotica Online) Communications Corp. If you would like to look them up as well, feel free. They have been in business for close to 15 years =) I'm sure if you have any issues wit payment they will handle it accordingly.

Carry on...

kane 08-03-2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webair (Post 17384602)
WOW that got out of control rather quickly! Apologies for the delayed response, been busy with the new http://www.webair.com site launch!! (shameless plug =)

We are just the host for peeshowcash.com, and provide web design for some of their campaigns. As for [email protected] I have no idea who that is...
I contacted the program owners and pointed the contact email to them accordingly.

If you have any issues with the program itself it should be directed to the following contacts:

[email protected]

The other address posted above [email protected] is the direct PERSONAL contact for the program manager as well...good detective work Ethersync ;)

Or you can simply Call: 954.401.9999

The program is owned by EOL (Erotica Online) Communications Corp. If you would like to look them up as well, feel free. They have been in business for close to 15 years =) I'm sure if you have any issues wit payment they will handle it accordingly.

Carry on...

Thanks for the info.

kane 08-03-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 17383547)
Why does it mean webair is involved with this site? By that logic, if I create a gmail address like [email protected] this could be interpreted as Steve working for google? Perhaps I'm missing something here 'coz what you are insinuating doesn't make sense to me.

I guess, ultimately, you are correct. I should have said that it looks like they might be involved. I suppose it is easy for someone to get/create an email address that made it look like they were affiliated with a particular company.

alias 08-03-2010 12:54 PM

Gotta be careful with wording.

ponyman 12-10-2010 06:28 PM

I have been promoting PeepShow Cash for several years with nice ratios and always received checks on time from J2 Incorporated. As of Nov 22, 2010, I noticed that clicks were not showing up in my stats any longer. Seems they changed their linking codes without notice! I have updated my linking codes and now the clicks are being counted. The FHGs are ALL down. No response to emails. Also, no place i webmaster area to update or even view my account info!

CyberHustler 12-10-2010 06:46 PM

:1orglaugh

webairalex 12-10-2010 07:56 PM

Wow ...this thing grew quickly!

kane 12-10-2010 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponyman (Post 17765851)
I have been promoting PeepShow Cash for several years with nice ratios and always received checks on time from J2 Incorporated. As of Nov 22, 2010, I noticed that clicks were not showing up in my stats any longer. Seems they changed their linking codes without notice! I have updated my linking codes and now the clicks are being counted. The FHGs are ALL down. No response to emails. Also, no place i webmaster area to update or even view my account info!

yep, I noticed the same thing. Back when I had this problem I eventually got a hold of someone who told me they were in the process of hiring an affiliate manager to run the program and good things were coming. Apparently those good things mean no auto forwarding link codes.

fatfoo 12-10-2010 07:59 PM

Peepshow cash is scamming? That sucks. Good luck.


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