With a border like this all the laws will not stop the problem.
 

Seriously do you think that the law they want to pass in Arizona will stop people coming over?

If so watch this.

The border's a joke. The commentator says it's hard to build a wall to stop the flow. Tell that to the people who lived in the Iron Block, between 1950 and 1989. I've saw what those States put up and it was awesome. Very very few got across. If the US or any State is serious about stopping Illegals, they should build something to stop them

I've driven down the freeway from LA to San Diego and seen the Mexicans walking along side the freeway. :Oh crap

As for the farmer who helped illegal immigrants by giving them jobs. There's also your problem.

You have no idea!

Or we could do it the easy way and simply admit that our border is not secure and be upfront with the American public by telling them, look, a certain amount of illegals are going to come in every day. That's just the way it is. We aren't going to build a wall, and we aren't going to arm the border with soldiers. That means, the border will never be secure. People need to get used to it.

A wall is only as good as it's length, width and thickness. So unless that wall goes from the Texas end of the Mexican border to the Pacific Ocean, it's useless. Unless it has armed guards monitoring every inch of it, it's useless.

That border is no where near secure. It's a joke.

With all the money spent on controlling that border to stop drugs and immigrants you would think someone in the US would of worked out how useless that border is.

Having armed guards shooting people is extreme. Having motion detectors and intercepting people isn't.

Passing a law to send them home when you find them is pretty useless as well. Politicians think problems can be solved by laws.

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That claymore is no good without a detonator.

But a mine field is...

I prefer bouncing betty, but that still has to be set :winkwink:

That will get some attention :thumbsup

I used to love setting those fuckers off.

well that's a defeatist attitude

Pardaon me but you are telling us all that there is nothing we can do, which is a complete lie; just the sort of thing perpetrated by the Looney Left.

But I expect nothing else.

Sally.

Okay Sally, then what can we do? (that isn't absurd, ridiculous or impossible)

What we can do is streamline the process that allows people to become legal american citizens. Demand to be admitted is super high, and the number of ticket takers cant possibly deal with the crowd rushing the gates. Stamp their hands and be done with it. Screw testing.

What we need to do it make it so illegals aren't winning the lottery by getting over the border. Repeal the 14th amendment, don't let illegals have free health care, free food, free housing, free education, stop hiring them, arrest those that do hire them, and put some teeth into the laws that are already in place.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

are you serious? :eek7

Repeal it? No, Rewrite it yes, the reason it was written for is being abused and should be fixed

Doesn't need rewriting, just needs to be applied as written. (Hint: Gays are US citizens too).

Honestly, I wasn't aware you could "rewrite" it. I didn't pay a lot of attention in school :helpme We didn't rewrite the 18th Amendment, we repealed it and created a 21st Amendment. If we can rewrite it, great. :) But as it is now, I don't see it protecting anyone except children of people who are here illegally. Remove that from the table and you won't have hospitals on the border overwhelmed with women who are there merely to have anchor babies, you won't have to provide medical services, food and housing to the kids, etc. And as seen by folks leaving AZ, once the freebie party is over, they will leave on their own.

I know a woman who is here illegally (from Germany, not Mexico - I want this to affect EVERYONE here illegally). She had 2 kids here. Because they are under 18, not only are they covered for everything, she has a free place to live, and SHE gets free medical and dental care. Multiply that times a few million. :disgust

And I agree with Tom - streamlining also needs to be put into place. But the fact remains, too many people are here illegally.

:2 cents:

Every country in the world can take care of their borders except the USA. Riiiiight.

They don't want to take care of the border problem. That is the real problem.

It's called "insourcing."

This is the global corporate agenda at work. The corporates control the government, they control the border. If they wanted illegal immigration stopped, it would stop tomorrow. Instead, corporate profits remain king. In their pursuit of ever growing profit margins, any American job that cannot be outsourced (to cut wages paid), will be insourced. Mexicans are a cheap (low wage) labor pool easily insourced and exploited for higher corporate profits.

:2 cents:

Seeing how open the Southern border of the US is almost makes me wonder whether terrorism isn't a threat anymore to the US.

In the face of all of the security measures that we are put through as passengers in airports, why would terrorists use airplanes anymore? They easily could come through any part of the southern border of the US quite easily, wreak havoc and leave the same way they came.

They could ship in a whole enemy army inside shipping containers through our ports. No one would be the wiser.

I suspect that's very close to the truth. Spending bucket loads of money to fight the problems of drugs and immigrants has to be a lot more expensive than building a decent wall. Look at what Israel did.

Blaming it on any President is weak. The border has been like that for decades.

WE (The USA) can do whatever we have the WILL to do!

The deteriorating socio/economoic conditions in Mexico will lead to attempted mass migration to the North in order to avoid the violence and the results of the impending collapse of that failed government.

2,000 mile border?

20 guys to the mile, all armed with night vision, proper field equipment, a Ma Deuce for each mile, a healthy mix of Humvees, Bradleys and Strykers, with rotary wing and drone air support, combined with effective communications and supply delivery and you got it made.

Shoot to kill orders beyond a certain point with warning shots fired beforehand.

The USA can go to the Moon, can invade Iraq, can fight a war in Afghanistan but cannot secure its own borders?

LEFTIST, APOLOGIST, AMERICA HATING PROPAGNADA!

Sally.

Uhhh, but, they don't want to stop illegals from flowing in. They just say they do, so they get voted in.

Now you;re talking and I like your style. We just need a president with balls, which we have been lacking for many many years :thumbsup

It's time to play hardball because that is the only thing these idiots will understand.....they certainly do not understand the word illegal nor our laws.









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And who is going to pay for that? I hope you're not planning to use what's left of MY tax dollars for that experiment in failure.

I asked for a solution that wasn't absurd, ridiculous or impossible.

California is already helping solve the "border problem"

If they finally make pot 100% legal (no prescription needed) and then other states pick up on that too...then we'll be back to peaceful wetbacks doing the menial labor like picking fruit and veggies and cleaning the kitchens in restaurants and lawn services and all the other things they have been doing since the beginning of time.

Of course, if other states do NOT follow Cali and end the idiotic "war on drugs"...then we are going to have a NEW problem.
We're going to have to station the entire army on the California border to keep people from smuggling pot to the rest of the U.S. :1orglaugh

Fuck it! Let's build walls around every state! :pimp

Well, the government is wasting mine and your tax dollars on a bogus war, at least we will be taken care of here and we stand to save billions ;)







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We're not saving anything. We're trillions in debt with no end in sight. The US is bankrupt.

No, you don't understand how we work.

First we INVADE. And then we declare the natives to be "insurgents" :1orglaugh

Once the balance has changed and the burden the illegals now put on our tax dollars has disappeared along with them, the tax dollars saved could be used towards an ongoing effort to secure our borders.

Oh my, oh my!

When you speak of states legalizing ot you are talking REVOLUTION, you know!

Pot is STILL ILLEGAL under FEDERAL LAW and BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA does NOT support either decriminalization or legalization.

Do you mean that you are saying that the states should tell the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO GO FUCK ITSELF?

The FEDS can quash the whole "legal pot" thing any time they want and they will just to show the people WHERE THE POWER LIES.

Or where they think it does.

The Federales forget that true power lies with THE PEOPLE!

Oh, dear, oh dear!

My Dad gave me this one!

Sally.

We never went to the moon:2 cents:

Thank you and since the current occupant of the White House has no balls, we need a president who spends more time dealing with real issues than licking whatever it is that he has that passes for his dick!

"PIG'S HEAD!"

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"Downtown there’s another disaster

Pig’s head and a loaded gun

Day by day things are going faster

Get off the street the killing’s begun



Sucked up in all the confusion

Shot down and there’s no place to run

Night and day it’s a new revolution

Get off the street the killing’s begun



Pig’s head, polish your pistol,

Pig’s head

Downtown it’s the first and last chapter

Ape man tearing limbs from the trees

Up tight doesn’t know what he’s after

As far as he knows it’s him or it’s me


Downtown there’s another disaster

Pig’s head and a loaded gun

Day by day things are going faster

Get off the street the killing’s begun

Get off the street the killing’s begun


Pig’s head, polish your pistol,

Pig’s head, yeah"


Sally.

Yeah, because of that fine bogus war, bailing out of corrupt organizations?, and giving these fucking illegals a free ride, that is why we are in the hurt locker and it is time for things to change and the first change needs to be the moochers getting the free ride.






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Nikki I got to say that I don't much care of the word illegal or our laws either. I plan on breaking a shitload of laws tonight here in Vegas! :pimp

Well, I don't particularly care for illegals and the laws of this country, but we have laws and no matter how much I don't like them, I have to obey them or pay the price for not obeying them.....:2 cents:







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Come on Nikki! It's Friday night brother! Break a law or two! I'm gonna start with a couple of drug laws, and then see if I can't make my way into a sex act law or three. :1orglaugh

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Sally.

They need to go ruthlessly after those who hire illegals and those who house them. Without employment, their isn't much incentive to come.


Jack

Sounds like you are going to have a wild time......:1orglaugh:1orglaugh










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As my Dad would say, "That's a big 10-4, Good Buddy!"

Sally.

If the USSR could do it to keep people in the USA should be able to do it to keep them out.

People blaming Obama, what did Bush or any of the other Rep Presidents do about it?

Robbie if you think legalising pot will stop the drugs trafficking between US and Mexico you live in a dream world.

Sounds about right :thumbsup

It'll definitely shut down the cartels smuggling pot. You could then finish them off completely if you let grown people snort cocaine if they feel like it.
Obviously they do because WE here in the U.S. are the number one consumer of it.

Prohibition didn't work with alcohol (which kills more people every day than every "illegal" drug known to man combined), and it doesn't work with drugs.

UNDENIABLE FACT: People are going to do what they want to do no matter what any govt. tries to force them to do. Legalize it? They will then do it legally. Keep it illegal? You make the drug cartels rich.
Either way, millions of Americans WILL smoke a joint and WILL snort a line.
It's fun to do drugs and party on a Friday or Saturday night no matter how many bullshit propaganda commercials the govt. tries to brainwash people with. And the numbers show it.

Yep. And we don't really need Mexico for weed. Cali is the weed supplier to half the US. Canada grows plenty themselves. But illegals & Mexico in general will continue to be blamed for the "drug problem", nevermind the facts you just stated and the reality that WE are demanding the stuff. The "drug problem" would probably not be such a problem if they stopped labeling it "a problem" and let adults do as they please with their own bodies.

Conservatives especially should be all over this. They're always hollering for less regulation and more capitalism and free market and all that.... well then repeal prohibition (that doesn't work), put the "drug war" to bed once and for all, legalize for adults, and let's move forward instead of backward.

$.02

don't forget all the tunnels under it, lol.