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Amputate Your Head 08-07-2010 07:59 AM

Iran president: Sept. 11 exaggerated
 
Iran president: Sept. 11 exaggerated - Aug 2010
Ahmadinejad says U.S. used attacks as an excuse to invade Iraq, Afghanistan

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TEHRAN ? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks were exaggerated in a fresh broadside at the United States just days after President Barack Obama voiced willingness to talk to Iran. Ahmadinejad said the Sept. 11 attacks with hijacked airliners on New York and Washington D.C. had been trumped up as an excuse for the United States to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

Speaking at a Tehran conference, Ahmadinejad said there was no evidence that the death toll at New York's World Trade Center, destroyed in the attacks, was as high as reported and said "Zionists" had been tipped off in advance. "What was the story of September 11? During five to six days, and with the aid of the media, they created and prepared public opinion so that everyone considered an attack on Afghanistan and Iraq as (their) right," he said in a televised speech.

No "Zionists" were killed in the World Trade Center, according to Ahmadinejad, because "one day earlier they were told not go to their workplace." "They announced that 3,000 people were killed in this incident, but there were no reports that reveal their names.




:2 cents: As much as I don't like that guy, I have to agree with this: "Ahmadinejad says U.S. used attacks as an excuse to invade Iraq, Afghanistan" because it's dead accurate.

Ethersync 08-07-2010 08:03 AM

Yeah, he is right about that.

Highest Def 08-07-2010 08:10 AM

Sounds just as misinformed as most people do on this board discussing politics. This will be an interesting (and annoying) thread to read in a few hours.

Ethersync 08-07-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Highest Def (Post 17397600)
Sounds just as misinformed as most people do on this board discussing politics. This will be an interesting (and annoying) thread to read in a few hours.

Please share the truth with us then. Enlighten us.

Highest Def 08-07-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17397604)
Please share the truth with us then. Enlighten us.

I don't know the truth anymore than you do or that Iranian clown does. That's what makes these arguments pointless. Carry on. I'll be back later this afternoon to see how funny this gets.

J. Falcon 08-07-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Highest Def (Post 17397600)
Sounds just as misinformed as most people do on this board discussing politics. This will be an interesting (and annoying) thread to read in a few hours.

I'm sure you know more about it than the president of Iran :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Highest Def (Post 17397611)
I don't know the truth anymore than you do or that Iranian clown does. That's what makes these arguments pointless. Carry on. I'll be back later this afternoon to see how funny this gets.

I'm sure he has a bit more information on this than the average joe.

Amputate Your Head 08-07-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Highest Def (Post 17397611)
I don't know the truth anymore than you do or that Iranian clown does. That's what makes these arguments pointless. Carry on. I'll be back later this afternoon to see how funny this gets.

Are you suggesting there was some other reason (translation: excuse) that we invaded Iraq & Afghan?

seeandsee 08-07-2010 08:19 AM

even unborn children know that

dyna mo 08-07-2010 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17397573)
Ahmadinejad said the Sept. 11 attacks with hijacked airliners on New York and Washington D.C. had been trumped up as an excuse for the United States to invade .... Iraq.

"What was the story of September 11? During five to six days, and with the aid of the media, they created and prepared public opinion so that everyone considered an attack on ..... Iraq as (their) right," he said in a televised speech.

i know for a fact this is wrong.

Amputate Your Head 08-07-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17397630)
i know for a fact this is wrong.

What do you mean?

The White House (Bush) and the media did an exceptional job of justifying why we had "no choice" but to invade. When the rest of the world said no, Bush said we were going in with or without them, then declared "You're either with us or against us", and went in anyway. There were plenty of people that agreed with him and considered it our "right" to invade.

dyna mo 08-07-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17397634)
What do you mean?

The White House (Bush) and the media did an exceptional job of justifying why we had "no choice" but to invade. When the rest of the world said no, Bush said we were going in with or without them, then declared "You're either with us or against us", and went in anyway. There were plenty of people that agreed with him and considered it our "right" to invade.

that was more than 2 years AFTER 9/11. i quoted Ahmadinutjob saying 9/11 was trumped up over 5-6 days after 9/11 as our (u.s.) right to invade iraq, it wasn't.


you don't remember the iraqi resolution?

Ethersync 08-07-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17397651)
that was more than 2 years AFTER 9/11. i quoted Ahmadinutjob saying 9/11 was trumped up over 5-6 days after 9/11 as our (u.s.) right to invade iraq, it wasn't.


you don't remember the iraqi resolution?

This clip shows Cheney on Meet the Press on December 9th 2001 talking about Iraq being connected to 9/11. I will see if I can find something earlier.


dyna mo 08-07-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17397664)
This clip shows Cheney on Meet the Press on December 9th 2001 talking about Iraq being connected to 9/11. I will see if I can find something earlier.


i recall that. i enjoyed tim russert/meet the press and rip tim. but that video doesn't disprove anything. the fact cheney claims atta met with an iraqi official doesn't mean there was a conspiracy to tie 9/11 to iraq. and it didn't happen that way.

iraqi resolution, etc.

here's a counter video

Seth Manson 08-07-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17397615)
Are you suggesting there was some other reason (translation: excuse) that we invaded Iraq & Afghan?

The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Stop being like all the other sheep that forgot the real reason we invaded them.

Remember Bush telling everyone about Iraq's WMD based on 'faulty' intel? 9/11 was never used as an excuse for the invasion of Iraq.

I cant tell if you have a sheep brain or are just trying to be a troll, or both.

Amputate Your Head 08-07-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 17397704)
The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Stop being like all the other sheep that forgot the real reason we invaded them.

Remember Bush telling everyone about Iraq's WMD based on 'faulty' intel? 9/11 was never used as an excuse for the invasion of Iraq.

I cant tell if you have a sheep brain or are just trying to be a troll, or both.

Oh right..... the magical WMDs. I apologize, I forgot about those. I tend not to remember fairy tales.

Ethersync 08-07-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 17397704)
The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Stop being like all the other sheep that forgot the real reason we invaded them.

Remember Bush telling everyone about Iraq's WMD based on 'faulty' intel? 9/11 was never used as an excuse for the invasion of Iraq.

I cant tell if you have a sheep brain or are just trying to be a troll, or both.

They used the WMDs fable and an implied connection to 9/11 to get support of the American people.

Are you implying that the Bush Administration was duped into believing the Iraq had WMDs because of faulty intel?

dyna mo 08-07-2010 09:14 AM

a c&p from wiki but this is how i recall the events from that time:

The rationale for the Iraq War (i.e. the 2003 invasion of Iraq and subsequent hostilities) has been a contentious issue since the Bush administration began actively pressing for military intervention in Iraq in late 2001. The primary rationalization for the Iraq War was articulated by a joint resolution of the U.S. Congress known as the Iraq Resolution.

The U.S. stated that the intent was to remove "a regime that developed and used weapons of mass destruction, that harbored and supported terrorists, committed outrageous human rights abuses, and defied the just demands of the United Nations and the world".[1] Additional reasons have been suggested: "to change the Middle East so as to deny support for militant Islam by pressuring or transforming the nations and transnational systems that support it."[2] For the invasion of Iraq the rationale was "the United States relied on the authority of UN Security Council Resolutions 678 and 687 to use all necessary means to compel Iraq to comply with its international obligations".[3]

Deputy Chief Command 08-07-2010 09:16 AM

Iraq invasion was justified if after 9/11 , . . Saddam was a nutcase who had a grudge against the US , , and this nutcase had a whole lot of money ... money he could use to attack the US . . money he could use to fund terrorism .. . based on that fact Iraq invasion was justified .. .

DaddyHalbucks 08-07-2010 10:35 AM

Iran will get theirs.. soon it appears.

Dirty Dane 08-07-2010 10:39 AM

He also deny holocaust.

dyna mo 08-07-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17397914)
Iran will get theirs.. soon it appears.

what will that be?

TheDoc 08-07-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17397923)
what will that be?

He's a sympathizer, waiting on free party balloons and the peace rallies to start.

CaptainHowdy 08-07-2010 11:20 AM

I support in advance our future president of the world Mahmoud Ahmadinejad...

cambaby 08-07-2010 11:21 AM

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Ethersync 08-07-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17397914)
Iran will get theirs.. soon it appears.

Get theirs? For what exactly?


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