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billywatson 08-12-2010 09:00 AM

Are sites like VSex The Only REAL Way to Combat Piracy?
 
Or, is that business model just the future of our biz?

pornstar2fag 08-12-2010 09:01 AM

that is a great idea. who owns that?

PornNewz 08-12-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17409946)
that is a great idea. who owns that?

I heard it was a professor from MIT.

smutguy 08-12-2010 12:44 PM

i have been helping them with beta testing

i'm 1:400 raw with tube traffic

K R I S T E N 08-12-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PornNewz (Post 17410039)
I heard it was a professor from MIT.

Me too ... the brains!

alias 08-12-2010 01:56 PM

Looks cool, about time. Some cam sites have similar already but not pushing the angle as hard.

PornNewz 08-12-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 17410899)
Looks cool, about time. Some cam sites have similar already but not pushing the angle as hard.

Do you have any links to anyone else doing this type of thing? would like to check it out.

Thanks :thumbsup

alias 08-12-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PornNewz (Post 17411005)
Do you have any links to anyone else doing this type of thing? would like to check it out.

Thanks :thumbsup

http://www.sakuralive.com/ has vibrator control functions, have never checked it out but have seen it on banners and performer profiles.

Promote it: DTI Cash

PornNewz 08-12-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17411015)
http://www.sakuralive.com/ has vibrator control functions, have never checked it out but have seen it on banners and performer profiles.

Promote it: DTI Cash

Great, thanks! just breezed thru there and didn't see anything about dildo controls but i'll keep looking.

alias 08-12-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PornNewz (Post 17411058)
Great, thanks! just breezed thru there and didn't see anything about dildo controls but i'll keep looking.

I'll ask my AM tomorrow.

pornlaw 08-12-2010 09:44 PM

Its good but when the model can control getting the guy off.... now thats the future of the biz. Electronic prostitution.

billywatson 08-13-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 17411918)
Its good but when the model can control getting the guy off.... now thats the future of the biz. Electronic prostitution.

Is there such a thing as virtual pandering? :1orglaugh

Randy West 08-13-2010 01:11 AM

iFriends had this shit years ago. They called it cyberdildonics
MSNBC article from 1999: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3078776

lagcam 08-13-2010 01:23 AM

I have also seen this on another site a few years ago...... can't recall the name of the site but it must have been 6 years ago.

PornNewz 08-13-2010 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy West (Post 17412068)
iFriends had this shit years ago. They called it cyberdildonics
MSNBC article from 1999: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3078776

Yeah, I read that. It never took off.

pornlaw 08-13-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17412065)
Is there such a thing as virtual pandering? :1orglaugh

From a legal perspective - yes. Would it ever been enforced - highly unlikely.

I know of 2 companies that are still in the testing stages of such a device.

pornguy 08-13-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 17412664)
From a legal perspective - yes. Would it ever been enforced - highly unlikely.

I know of 2 companies that are still in the testing stages of such a device.

Biggest issue here would be more of the cost than anything else. It would also be a liimited market at first but expansion on getting the device to the customer might be the biggest issue.

stever 08-13-2010 10:09 AM

who runs vsex.com ? is it a big name company?

sworld 08-13-2010 11:48 AM

Great Idea!

Naechy 08-13-2010 11:51 AM

really interesting, i like it

Roald 08-13-2010 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 17411918)
Its good but when the model can control getting the guy off.... now thats the future of the biz. Electronic prostitution.

lmk whos selling that, I would be very interested in throwing some traffic to that lol

Perhaps a reall-touch connected to a live cam/chat model....

Caligari 08-13-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17413361)
lmk whos selling that, I would be very interested in throwing some traffic to that lol

Perhaps a reall-touch connected to a live cam/chat model....

yes, if you had a real touch device and you were able to control the sex machine to fuck the girl you would have the connection of the decade.

i wonder if it would work if you were controlling the sex machine with your mouse while using the real touch so you are feeling the motion while you are moving the machine with your mouse?

a live interface like that would be incredible.

Yo Adrian 08-13-2010 12:29 PM

Cheat without Cheating, that's brilliant

Brent 3dSexCash 08-13-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17413426)
yes, if you had a real touch device and you were able to control the sex machine to fuck the girl you would have the connection of the decade.

i wonder if it would work if you were controlling the sex machine with your mouse while using the real touch so you are feeling the motion while you are moving the machine with your mouse?

a live interface like that would be incredible.


Our device works on both ends.

When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

Hit me up!

HighlyIntoxicated 08-13-2010 12:44 PM

just registered for vsex, hopefully i get accepted!

Sharky 08-13-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17413475)
Our device works on both ends.

When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

Hit me up!


This is Genius. Creating an attachment for the Fleshlight was a smart move. A standalone product wouldn't sell as well, but being able to market this to the Million+ buyers of fleshlight is awesome.

PornNewz 08-13-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17413475)
Our device works on both ends.

When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

Hit me up!

That's a good idea as well. when do you go live?

alias 08-13-2010 04:19 PM

Testing this now.

PornNewz 08-13-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17413475)
Our device works on both ends.

When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

Hit me up!

without seeing it working......

FreeHugeMovies 08-13-2010 08:52 PM

Real touch will have this.

Hotrocket 08-13-2010 09:33 PM

Some version of this concept will be huge in the future...I think sky is the limit for the right combo of software and device. If you think peeps will bust the bank just for cam shows..imagine what they will shell out to get virtually fucked by their fave cam girl...


If anyone is interested, I have an excellent domain for sale that would be perfect for a cam/chat/virtual sex device site:

CamSensations.com - $1,600

hit me up at my nick at gmail.com

sitesurfer70 08-14-2010 01:11 AM

I think Imlive used to have this to...is call the Stinulator or soemthing..

Raf1 08-14-2010 01:29 AM

good to see people working hard to get the biz moving in the right direction.

hypedough 08-14-2010 03:23 AM

Won't the girl get really sore and tired after say, a guy goes in for a really long show? Or what about those guys who come in for a quick minute, the girls would be sore by the time they made decent enough money. Solid idea hopefully they invest in some numbing lotion for their nether regions.

Adraco 08-14-2010 03:54 AM

With Vsex the customer has to pay a minimum of 5 minutes at $7 per minute for the one controlling the strokes.

Then a limitless number of people can watch, as voyageurs, at $2.50 per minute I think it was. New peeps would probably want to watch some first, before trying themselves at $7 per minute. And there's a toplist, the model will rate each "fucker" of how good they were and the top ones will get their nickname on the front page for fame and glory - will surely be good for their ego and competition!

So say a girl can at maximum do 8 shows of 5 minute each per hour, with 4 people watching each show.
That is 5 minutes x $7 per minute = $35 per 5 min session for the stroker
plus 4 watchers watching 5 minutes each at $2.50 = 4 x 5 x 2.5 = $50
So per 5 minute show, you cram out $85

If you can do 8 shows of 5 minute each per hour, allowing for some rest and downtime, you have 8 x 85 = $680 per hour!

Affiliates get a 20% life time cut, so that is $136 per one hour of "full schedule".
Leaves $544 for Vsex. I have no clue what models are paid, but I would guess they get around 40-50 % of that $544.

Sure makes for a very interesting calculation!

AtlantisCash 08-14-2010 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 17414727)
Won't the girl get really sore and tired after say, a guy goes in for a really long show? Or what about those guys who come in for a quick minute, the girls would be sore by the time they made decent enough money. Solid idea hopefully they invest in some numbing lotion for their nether regions.





i was thinkin something similar, i like when the industry moves.

i hope this time we all learn from our mistakes and everything goes good :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 08-14-2010 08:43 AM

New twist on an old idea.

A USB pussy and USB dildo that had a software interface would be interesting.

This virtual stimulation over IP has been tried in the past ? no one has made use of it as a predominant feature.

Like 3D, a lot of talk. 3D has caught on then faded away since the 1950's. Its latest incarnation is what we are seeing. Will it last this time ? good question.

Brent 3dSexCash 08-14-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornNewz (Post 17414150)
without seeing it working......

It is actually already live on webcamclub and I would be happy to show you or anyone else a demo there or off that site. It should be available to deploy to all other cam sites this month.

Brent 3dSexCash 08-14-2010 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17415035)
New twist on an old idea.

A USB pussy and USB dildo that had a software interface would be interesting.

This virtual stimulation over IP has been tried in the past ? no one has made use of it as a predominant feature.

Like 3D, a lot of talk. 3D has caught on then faded away since the 1950's. Its latest incarnation is what we are seeing. Will it last this time ? good question.

You are exactly right :thumbsup

This is what we have with the Vstroker. It is an adapter that fits over the Fleshlight and hooks up to USB. How the user screws the toy, directs the content on the screen.

It works with videos, adult games and cams.

PornNewz 08-15-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17413475)
Our device works on both ends.

When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

Hit me up!

So the Diltron will move on the models side when the customers fleshlight moves on his side?

Half man, Half Amazing 08-16-2010 02:00 PM

We are helping Vsex.com with beta this past week. Only sent straight up tube traffic using a banner and are doing 1:27 on free signups and from counting raw banner click straight to sales 1:261. Not keyword targeting either. That's not half, but full amazing! :thumbsup

FlexxAeon 08-16-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sitesurfer70 (Post 17414666)
I think Imlive used to have this to...is call the Stinulator or soemthing..

Yep, Sinulator. I used to always ask wtf happened to it. Never understood why people didn't jump all over it back then.

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornNewz (Post 17417120)
So the Diltron will move on the models side when the customers fleshlight moves on his side?


You got it exactly right.

They can use the Fleshlight to control the Diltron or just use their mouse.

chronig 08-17-2010 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17413475)
Our device works on both ends.

When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

Hit me up!

I had this idea about 3 years ago while smoking up in my old apartment but didn't have any feasible way of developing it.. and my name is also Brent... weird... but congrats

pornstar2fag 08-17-2010 09:16 PM

i'm never sticking my cock in a machine.

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17423312)
i'm never sticking my cock in a machine.


lol

Version 2 of our hardware, which should be released next month, will actually be completely wireless.

I do agree that sticking your penis into something concealed, that is hook up to an electric socket, isn't that appealing. :winkwink:

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423296)
I had this idea about 3 years ago while smoking up in my old apartment but didn't have any feasible way of developing it.. and my name is also Brent... weird... but congrats

Funny. This journey was actually started seven years ago... The timing seems right now.

chronig 08-17-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17423344)
Funny. This journey was actually started seven years ago... The timing seems right now.

Timing seems perfect... considering piracy plays a huge part in the current state of the industry... revolutionize the one part of it that can't completely be pirated - cams...

I hope it takes off... I live in a city that is a watering hole for cam studios (Medellin, Colombia)... I'd definitely look back into starting one up!

chronig 08-17-2010 09:42 PM

The links in your sig are broken btw...

parsed as: http://%3Cfont%20color%3D%22silver%2...com%3C/font%3E

etc.... in google chrome anyway

Half man, Half Amazing 08-17-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17423286)
You got it exactly right.

They can use the Fleshlight to control the Diltron or just use their mouse.

Looking at that pic of the diltron, i'm not getting it, it's not stablized in any way, it just lays there. and the hook used to connect it, well that will cause a whole lot of jerking around. Is that your final version?


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