LOL @ Socialism | Driver could face $1 million speeding ticket
 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...6908-22484649/

Yeah!! Take that man's money and give it to someone else. He didn't earn it!! Oh wait, yes he did. :helpme

Switzerland is socialism? For a country smaller than the size of Oregon to dominate the financial world for decades as they have I'd say they did pretty damn well for being socialists.

He violated the law. Are you suggesting we let him go because he's rich? He must be punished. He should have been tased. Fuck that asshole. :2 cents:

I don't know under which system you live on, but if you're a sample, it's pretty evident education isn't exactly its forte :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Classic. Where did the OP say (or imply) he should have been let go?

He should of been fined the same amount as anyone else.

As the baggers and r-wingers love to say about America, if he doesn't like it there, he can get the fuck out and go somewhere else, can't he? He's got a fast car. I bet he could be out by this afternoon.

I was wondering that too. Seems to be a bit of a if you're not American you must be a communist bug going around.

Well its more if you're not a republican, but I know what you are getting at

186mph!

Fuck him. It's not like he was "slightly" over the limit. Obviously thought he was above the law in his flashy car.

Not so flashy now...

I think NetHorse's Socialism comment was referring to the fact that Switzerland is a Federal republic which ensures the availability of social security, health care, housing and general monetary benefits to its citizens. So much so that its apart of the Swiss Federal Constitution under Fundamental Rights, Civil Rights and Social Goals as a county.

In simpleton speak its a socialized government, its been this way since 1874 and surprised more people here didn't know that. Austria, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Holland, Iceland, Greenland are also socialized government's but not all of those Federal Constitutions ensure those same rights as Switzerland.

he knew the consequences when he mashed the gas pedal and they will never be the same.


going 186mph through multiple speed traps in a country that tickets speeders according to income.

LOL Switzerland socialist, probably the most capitalist country in Europe bar Monaco.

And much like the "baggers" and "r-wingers" thats a fucked up way of thinking.

So you should either suck it up or "get the fuck out"? How dare one point out the fairness of a law right?

I'll remember that when you post your next (hundred) threads regarding The Man fucking over the little guy.

186 mph is ridiculous and he should be thrown in jail. But basing the ticket on your income is ridiculous.

Was he not aware of the law? If he was, he knew the price. If he wasn't, ignorance of the law is no excuse.

I'm not saying he shouldnt pay the fine. He knew the law, he broke the law.

I'm saying the law is fucked up.

Lots of laws are fucked up. I disagree with many of them. Doesn't mean I get to just go out and start killing people... er, driving too fast. 186 mph is a lethal fucking weapon. The fine isn't steep enough IMO.

damn swiss socialists

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fines are punishments, and a small fine for a rich man is a big one for a poor man. do courts in the US not take earnings into account when issuing fines?

actually the law is fine - if you earn millions you laugh about a $50 fine. he won't laugh in this case. and he can be lucky that they didn't catch him in Italy, they would have taken his car away - forever

Here's an idea. Let the judge present him with an option. This is not uncommon. He could choose between the million dollar fine, or 20 years in the can. Either choice should include him losing his driving privileges and vehicle, for life.

do you know what switzerlands gdp per capita is? even if it is a socialist country, the average swiss person even after paying tax and social security takes home more than the average american earns gross. they're obviously doing something right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...al)_per_capita

Pricing a ticket based on income is a bs way of doing it... maybe if there were some cap it would make some sense, but come on, a million dollar ticket? What if bill gates was caught doing the same? he would pay 10 million? :1orglaugh

Where did I say it should of been $50? 186mph should be jail and car impounded.

What I'm saying is basing the amount of the fine on the drivers income isnt right. Is the poor persons car any less of a lethal weapon than the rich persons car?

What's next? Basing food prices on income? For a poor person that burger is $1. For the rich guy its $25? How about gas? Poor/$1 gallon - Rich/$20 etc.

It's easy to point fingers in this case "that fool was driving 100 miles over the limit, he knew what was coming, he should be sent to jail, bluh bluh"...

but what if you go over lets say 10 miles per hour? very easy to do unintentionally.... the guy would pay 100k fine in that case? that's fucked up...

Puhlease. If that were the option provided you would be the first one in here bitching. Saying that the poor person couldnt afford the fine and would rot in jail while the rich bad man could buy his freedom.

But I agree, going 186 should get driving privileges revoked.

Doubtful. I'm not stupid enough to drive 186mph off-track.

We got a smart one.

If a lazy poor person goes 186mph he should be punished the same as a successful one. Cry "stupid American Republican" all you want. Smoke another bowl and sit on your ass all day lazy hippies!

All poor people should be afforded the best lawyers too, just like OJ. Money gets you out of murder, why not speeding?

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so you're saying the price for being rich AND have health, education, housing and so on for free is not driving at 186mph? Damn, where do I signup?

On a side note, if Gouge says what he said in front of an audience with a slight knowledge of economics and politics the laughter would be heard from the Moon! Of course, for you such lack of truth and accuracy is "smart" :1orglaugh

another interesting choice of wedge issue rhetoric from the palin-americans. i wonder where the original poster got the idea.

in this one they appear to be arguing against the idea of the rule of law and the rights that a sovereign country has to pass and enforce the laws that they choose.

i wonder how well this will sell among the baggers? not well i think, but it's hard to tell what the tea party will decide to support, they have no policy, so they might do anything.

Awwwwrrr those commie bastards!!!

Fucking idot. Since when did Swiss became socialists? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Some of you morons don't even understand the difference between socialism and communism. Hahaha

I take it you have a hard time comprehending the simplest of things, nothing i said has to do with economics or politics. It has to do with the style of government Switzerland is represented by, you can take 30 minutes and go read about it, even then im not so sure you would grasp the concept seeing how you didn't get it the first time.

Penalties should be based on income. For someone that's poor and living paycheck to paycheck to survice, for example let's say a ticket of $180, can be devastating. Whereas someone who is wealthy, that type of ticket is a joke. There's virtually no accountability for rich...


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Gouge, you're wasting your time, he's not capable of something as simple as reading comprehension.

You're right man, it really is a lost cause sometimes on here. But it does help me kill time while working.

whats funny

Hey Gouge I don't know you and just having fun at Nethorse. I can see a very rhetorical and quite distorted way on what you're saying. Nevertheless, I'd be very happy to read everything you have about Switzerland being a socialist country, I'm sure it will be very informative. Since it's the first time in my life I hear it, I'm very interested in knowing your sources.

As for TheDemon, what can I say... he's the clown everybody laughs and point fingers as the dumbest person in Earth, to be honest I tend to feel pity for him and how everybody laughs at him, so if TheDemon backs your POV, then you should be really worried

btw, just in case, here's some common definitions of socialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialism
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Socialism.html (here you have an ultra-right vision so you can't complain other sources are too "leftist")
http://www.answers.com/topic/socialism

if you can find a slight resemblance of the definition of socialism and Switzerland government, please let me know it. Again, I'm extremely curious and I'm always willing to learn something new

Just in case, before you go further, are you sure you're not confusing socialism with WELFARE STATE? take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state and you'll see Switzerland mentioned there, while I couldn't find anything related to Switzerland and Socialism ANYWHERE. Just face up you fucked up and told some non-sense in your effort to back 2 ignorant individuals like Nethorse and everybody's clown OR let me know how did you get the strange idea that Switzerland (commonly known as one of the symbols of capitalism) is slightly connected to socialism :helpme

Never thought of it that way, Thanks!

Where at did i say that Switzerland was a socialist county?

Just in case your'e confused ill re-post it for you.

I think NetHorse's Socialism comment was referring to the fact that Switzerland is a Federal republic which ensures the availability of social security, health care, housing and general monetary benefits to its citizens. So much so that its apart of the Swiss Federal Constitution under Fundamental Rights, Civil Rights and Social Goals as a county.

I think you might be confusing national socialism or social democracies where everything is nationalized. Switzerland is a Direct Democracy with mixed economic freedom that ensures specific rights are promised to its citizens in accordance to the social programs outlined in its Constitution.

Sounds fair to me... if they would do that here a lot less people would be doing it. Hell in America he would have went to jail for reckless endangerment, lic suspended and a few various fines, car impounded, loss of insurance and a hell of an increased rate.

We would have spend money on courts and jail for someone going that fast and the fines aren't big enough to cover the cost... in Switzerland they take money from the person and life goes on.

Anyone that thinks Switzerland is doing it wrong needs to put into a padded room.

That is way above reasonable, even for someone making millions.

some off you people need to get out more...

When Liberal Switzerland Becomes a Socialist country? gimme a fucking break

So your OK with getting stopped going 10 mph over the limit and paying a fine 20x what another guy received for doing the same thing? Just because you've worked hard, saved and invested?

And whats to stop economic profiling? A cop sees a BMW 7 series going 8 mph over or a piece of shit doing 15 mph over the limit. Who do you think he's pulling over with this law? The one he can get $50 out of or the one that is going to rake in $1,000+?

he will pay, when he has money for car like this

He's going to arrest the one with brown skin for being an illegal, so that the CCA & the governor of AZ & her cronies can profit from their private prison scheme.

A. That has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
B. Read what you wrote.. There going to arrest someone for being an illegal. You mean they're going to actually make an arrest based on someone breaking the law? *gasp*

You mean like the jackass doing 186 mph? :1orglaugh

I get it. You disagree with laws & punishments that might possibly affect you, no one else.