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Konda 08-18-2010 04:23 AM

SOBV aka Jason Forrest - Even more shady stuff...
 
Customers that join any SOBV site and cancel automatically get signed up for their other sites regularly.

These are not cross sales, they actually create brand new memberships every month or two to their other sites.

I know this for a fact, because I joined a GFProfits site back in May to check out the members area. I canceled it right away.

Then over a month later, in June, I got a weird charge on my card. I called the support number and they said it was for a membership to SuperAdultPass.com, I asked them the username and they mentioned the one that I used to signup for when I joined the GF Profits site. I told them to cancel and refund.

Then 2 months after that (today) I got another weird charge that I didn't recognize. I called the support number and they said I joined CelebsOnly. Absolutely not true of course, and I asked them the username. Again they mentioned the username that I signed up with for GF Profits.

When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name. I checked that email account today, and there are indeed 2 signup emails for SuperAdultPass.com in June and for CelebsOnly.com in August, both had the fake customer details that I used to join the GFProfit site.

So they are just randomly creating brand new membership with data from their old customers.

I wonder why these people don't get their merchant accounts closed down. This is more shady than xsells!

Zuzana Designs 08-18-2010 04:41 AM

I'm getting a tee shirt made that say's "Scammers Suck"

JamesK 08-18-2010 04:42 AM

That is big.

Care to post some screenshots and stuff? It's only a matter of time before people are going to ask.

Altwebdesign 08-18-2010 04:44 AM

thats wrong. on a whole new level!

JFK 08-18-2010 04:50 AM

here we go again :2 cents:

Lukke 08-18-2010 05:04 AM

Same here. I tested GFProfits, because I wanted to know if signs up are generated correctly and there are some content in members area (which was terrible). Signed up for trial and after 8 hours cancelled. In a month there was 2 OTHER charges on my bank account. So I contacted EPGBILL and wanted to know where is a problem:

Quote:

05.02.2010
12:26
10,97 USD,EPGBILL.COM.NETHOLESSE, +18003687654, 280
PK: 541963XXXXXX5044
8323533/5500

and

05.23.2010
07:24
9,95 USD,EPGBILL.COM.NETHOLESER, +18007460238, 280
PK: 541963XXXXXX5044
8323533/5500

Need to CANCEL this billing and refund! Please let me know asap what
is it for and why my credit card has been billed every month.
They sent me a reply that billing has been cancelled (WFT, FOR WHAT??!).
Quote:

hcc> Dear Mr. Blecha,
hcc> We have canceled your membership to TeenDVDAccess.com
hcc> You will no longer be billed after this cancellation.
hcc> Best Regards,
hcc> Alex B.
A month later, there was one billing again.

Quote:

Hello Alex,
according to my bank statement, there is again for date 06.02.2010
this:

10,97 USD,EPGBILL.COM.NETHOLESER, +18003687654, 280
PK: 541963XXXXXX5044
8323533/5500

What is it?
Their reply from [email protected]:

Quote:

Dear Blecha

Thank you for contacting Member Support.
As requested, we have today canceled and refunded the charge back to your
account.
Please allow 7 to 10 business days for our billing processor to complete the refund transaction.
...
Luis M.
Customer support
What The Fuck Is This??! I just signed up for RealTeenieGfs site and CANCELED trial in a few hours. There were finally 4 charges on my bank account (1 for gfs trial, 3 others dont know for what).

Barefootsies 08-18-2010 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17423755)
here we go again


CaptainHowdy 08-18-2010 05:06 AM

Bastard...

nolongerexists 08-18-2010 05:23 AM

and you wondering why tubes are so fucking nice?
fuck that CC shit, give me full length for free haha

Lukke 08-18-2010 05:39 AM

Btw. this can be found on chargehelper.com site:

Quote:

CHARGE BACKS AND FRAUD FROM OUR MEMBERS

A billing chargeback will place your name, address, zip code, and credit card number into an Internet fraud database. ALL INTERNET CREDIT CARD COMPANIES USE THIS DATABASE. We DO NOT have any control over this fraud database.

If you chargeback your membership, the billing company WILL add your information to the ban database. If you get into this database you will not be able to use that billing company again. It is impossible to get off the ban lists.

BE SMART! DON'T DESTROY YOUR INTERNET CREDIT BY BEING ADDED TO THIS LIST AND INVESTIGATED FOR FRAUD!
:disgust:2 cents::321GFY

SteveHardeman 08-18-2010 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 17423740)
I'm getting a tee shirt made that say's "Scammers Suck"

Please let it be a white tee shirt and let me spray it with water. :-)

vano 08-18-2010 05:50 AM

sounds like he is banging cards ?

Wiredoctor 08-18-2010 05:58 AM

This is no longer just scamming and not paying webmasters, but as I see it this is pure Felony Criminal Fraud and possibally Identy Theft.

pornstar2fag 08-18-2010 06:02 AM

You guys crack me up. Why don't you start a thread about yourself and how you knowingly fucked your surfers for years.

You sent them traffic knowing that they were gonna fuck your customers and now your surprised that they fucked you? Really? You're acting all shocked and stuff. Seriously? You didn't see that coming? Seriously?

There are still two large programs doing questionable cross-sales. Can I predict that you'll start a thread about them sometime this year?

You guys crack me up.

Don't go away mad. Just go away.

Phoenix 08-18-2010 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiredoctor (Post 17423838)
This is no longer just scamming and not paying webmasters, but as I see it this is pure Felony Criminal Fraud and possibally Identy Theft.

now thats some juicy nipples!!!

Lukke 08-18-2010 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17423841)
You guys crack me up. Why don't you start a thread about yourself and how you knowingly fucked your surfers for years.

Years? I have been promoting them few months and knew nothing about their "tactics"...

Quote:

There are still two large programs doing questionable cross-sales. Can I predict that you'll start a thread about them sometime this year?
Which programs?

vano 08-18-2010 06:07 AM

if there is so much fraud and chargebacks going on, why arent the billing companies terminating his billing?
or banks arent terminating his merchant?

Roald 08-18-2010 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vano (Post 17423853)
if there is so much fraud and chargebacks going on, why arent the billing companies terminating his billing?
or banks arent terminating his merchant?

http://www.bradbyers.com/images/Juggler_new2.jpg

sponsorpimp 08-18-2010 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 17423722)
Customers that join any SOBV site and cancel automatically get signed up for their other sites regularly.

These are not cross sales, they actually create brand new memberships every month or two to their other sites.

I know this for a fact, because I joined a GFProfits site back in May to check out the members area. I canceled it right away.

Then over a month later, in June, I got a weird charge on my card. I called the support number and they said it was for a membership to SuperAdultPass.com, I asked them the username and they mentioned the one that I used to signup for when I joined the GF Profits site. I told them to cancel and refund.

Then 2 months after that (today) I got another weird charge that I didn't recognize. I called the support number and they said I joined CelebsOnly. Absolutely not true of course, and I asked them the username. Again they mentioned the username that I signed up with for GF Profits.

When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name. I checked that email account today, and there are indeed 2 signup emails for SuperAdultPass.com in June and for CelebsOnly.com in August, both had the fake customer details that I used to join the GFProfit site.

So they are just randomly creating brand new membership with data from their old customers.

I wonder why these people don't get their merchant accounts closed down. This is more shady than xsells!

I don't understand how you can join a program using your credit card with a false name as you stated above "When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name." Please tell us how that is done to use a credit card with a fake name.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 17423742)
That is big.

Care to post some screenshots and stuff? It's only a matter of time before people are going to ask.

I have to agree with you.

iSpyCams 08-18-2010 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponsorpimp (Post 17423921)
I don't understand how you can join a program using your credit card with a false name as you stated above "When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name." Please tell us how that is done to use a credit card with a fake name.

It's not hard, apparently. I get ccbill signups all the time from people named "master card" and "Chase bank". Surfers see "name on card" in the signup form and sometimes think that's the issuing bank or something.

What this means is that a match between the name and the CC # is not required by the current fraud scrub level.

Roald 08-18-2010 06:49 AM

btw this whole banging cards is nothing new, do a search on incerdible dollars, archive cash and solo converts.

Chosen 08-18-2010 07:04 AM

Fuck, it sucks...

~Ray 08-18-2010 07:14 AM

I sell backlinks. No credit card required. :)

~Ray

Agent 488 08-18-2010 07:16 AM

innovative business model. adapt or die.

Pics Traffic 08-18-2010 07:19 AM

Didn't that guy Daizy have some beef with SOBV because they banged his card?

bloggerz 08-18-2010 08:02 AM

thats fucked up

arock10 08-18-2010 09:25 AM

Who needs affiliates when you can just bang cards?

Fat Panda 08-18-2010 09:47 AM

some fucked up shit

kristin 08-18-2010 09:57 AM

Heh, I recognize that exit off of CelebsOnly.com.

JFK 08-18-2010 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vano (Post 17423832)
sounds like he is banging cards ?

what we need is a gif of someone actually banging a card :winkwink:

ottopottomouse 08-18-2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 17423740)
I'm getting a tee shirt made that say's "Scammers Suck"

I'm getting a tee shirt made that say's "Yes Please". Just got to think of a scam now...

Mefo 08-18-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17423939)
btw this whole banging cards is nothing new, do a search on incerdible dollars, archive cash and solo converts.

yeps, this was already known months ago (january I think?)

IntenseLloyd 08-19-2010 06:52 AM

Anyone remember xpics? lol

notime 08-19-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17424465)
what we need is a gif of someone actually banging a card :winkwink:

http://www.pennyseeds.com/wp-content...-card-trap.gif

:winkwink:

cykoe6 08-19-2010 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 17423742)
That is big.

Care to post some screenshots and stuff? It's only a matter of time before people are going to ask.


How is this big? This is common knowledge to anyone who is in this business that banging cards is a common occurrence.

gleem 08-19-2010 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IntenseLloyd (Post 17426582)
Anyone remember xpics? lol


YES! boy do i....

Billy Mays 08-19-2010 10:10 AM

JJ/SOBV are scam artists and really need to be reported to the DOJ asap.

trannysphere 08-19-2010 10:40 AM

i still have few $ on my nichecastle account. crap hahaha another drama

V_RocKs 08-24-2010 11:55 AM

Crazy shit!

fuzebox 08-24-2010 12:24 PM

You guys who aren't familiar with merchant accounts should realize, these companies can get away with a shitload of fraud as long as they have a solid support department. Chargeback control is all about support.

OldSchoolJim 08-24-2010 04:47 PM

his heres a story about billy joe and bobbie sue
Two young lovers with nothin better to do
Than sit around the house, get high, and watch the tube
And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose

They headed down to, ooh, old el paso
That's where they ran into a great big hassle
Billy joe shot a man while robbing his castle
Bobbie sue took the money and run

Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

Billy mack is a detective down in texas
You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
He aint gonna let those two escape justice
He makes his livin off of the peoples taxes

Bobbie sue, whoa, whoa, she slipped away
Billy joe caught up to her the very next day
They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They headed down south and they're still running today
Singin go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

pornpf69 08-24-2010 05:39 PM

this is way fucked up... maybe that is why everyone (including them) are staying away from their websites!

Lukke 08-27-2010 05:26 AM

Bumpity bump...

12clicks 09-01-2010 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchoolJim (Post 17439196)
his heres a story about billy joe and bobbie sue
Two young lovers with nothin better to do
Than sit around the house, get high, and watch the tube
And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose

They headed down to, ooh, old el paso
That's where they ran into a great big hassle
Billy joe shot a man while robbing his castle
Bobbie sue took the money and run

Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

Billy mack is a detective down in texas
You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
He aint gonna let those two escape justice
He makes his livin off of the peoples taxes

Bobbie sue, whoa, whoa, she slipped away
Billy joe caught up to her the very next day
They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They headed down south and they're still running today
Singin go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

how apropo of you to post this

BlueDude 09-01-2010 09:22 AM

You want to throw this guy in jail I will show you how. This is similar to Enzyte sexual pill case. The guy continue to charge without permission when people cancel. I think he get 15 years in prison. Here the link

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35988285/

Watch the video. He's doing the same as this guy so he'll get 15 years in jail. Just report it to the appropriate authority.

chronig 09-01-2010 09:24 AM

Did crazy shit like this go on in 2002-07? Just wondering

Jdoughs 09-01-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDude (Post 17457946)
He's doing the same as this guy so he'll get 15 years in jail.

What are you 13?

The Porn Nerd 09-01-2010 11:55 AM

Tsk tsk. Shady shit indeed. We here at PeabodyCash never do shady things like that so promote our sites!

Adapt or die, indeed.

PornMD 09-01-2010 12:36 PM

And in another thread recently I was having to explain to someone why surfers aren't likely to take out their credit card for porn. It's amazing irony - the industry that pioneered taking payments online is now doing the most to get people to NOT pay online via card banging, hidden cross sale shit, tubes giving everything away for free, etc. Two steps forward, three steps back.

If companies like this are able to fuck everyone and get away with it over and over again, this industry is only going to get worse.

papill0n 09-01-2010 01:20 PM

defintely not the only program doing this shit

I personally had the exact same thing happen to me


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