wild theory - UFOs based on nazi technology
 

but serious ... after WW2 1000s of german reich scientists immigrated to the US (operation "paperclip") ... in 1947 the first spotting of a flying saucer - description gives one the picture of a "flying wing" ... then the "rosswell incident" - near (or in flight distance) a US airbase ... all other "seeings" were in range of a base where german scientists were working on top secret projects ... later; the avrocar (operation silverbug) which pretty much used the "coander effect" as used in the "repulsine" which was stolen by US military from Viktor Schauberger ... so --- the germans were "parents" of the UFOs ?! just theory? :winkwink:

wow, you must have been the first person to have thought of that...







.. In the last 15 minutes.

Directly after the close of WWII in Germany, we had special teams in Germany looking for certain German scientists, and a lot of the borders were because of certain scientific facilities and the American desire to have them come under our control.

Nazi Germany, for all of their obvious and horrible faults, had some wild ideas. They were working on building planes that could take off from Europe, bomb NYC, and then return - all in one flight. Sounds like nothing special now, but very cutting edge in 1945.

Nope. UFOs mostly seem to reflect current science fiction programs and always seem to be encountered by drunken halfwits who wouldn't know whether their arse was probed by an alien or a goat.

yep, and if hitler had not been a war maniac germany cud rule the world today ... serious, looking back; IF germany had stopped war after running over poland (and acquiring austria) and put ALL its efforts in weaponary at THAT time --- where wud they have been? they were working on "levitation aircrafts" (with already significant success), building the "nuke" (yes, you US folks rubbing your eyes, WE were first to work on that overkill device!), rockets and the first jet engine planes ... IF germany had taken the time to accomplish all that ... the nazis wud have eredicated all who'd refuse to fall for their FALSE ideology --- being german, I AM HAPPY HITLERs REICH DID NOT WIN!

Traurig, was sagten Sie?

not quite, the planes they wanted to develop were one way planes. To get from Germany to new york in one trip (and carry a payload) was beyond 1940's science let alone returning.

interesting theory.........actually I`ve always been attracted on UFO`s

Nope. The Sänger Orbital Bomber or Amerika Bomber was sort of an airplane/space shuttle hybrid and was not a one-way by any means.

http://www.luft46.com/misc/sanger.html


http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/se...2/sangerny.jpg

In case you're wonding, that is how Manhattan Island would have looked from the Amerika.

http://www.luft46.com/misc/3bsanger.jpg

The Japanese were working on their own as well, the A-26, later re-designated the Ki-77.

http://www.aviastar.org/air/japan/tachikawa_ki-77.php


http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/jap...kawa_ki-77.jpg

Of course the USA was first to be successful with the single most expensive project of WW II, the B-29, which cost THREE BILLION DOLLARS. The atomic bomb only cost TWO BILLION DOLLARS!

http://military.discovery.com/techno...29-625x450.jpg

The Nazis did have plans though to bring small bombers to the USA via submarine, the planes housed in a water tight hanger on deck. These would have been one-way.

Sally.

The Nazis were pretty nuts.

Don't agree with their over-all agenda (the whole master race thing) but even I am impressed with their advancements in technology and interest in pretty much everything. If you read up on their paranormal research and their attempts in advancement in technology, almost makes you wish they had just kept to their fucking selves and not tried to dominate the world and shit.

Sorry, the website from which I snatched the pic of the Amerika replaced the link with an affiliate link but you can find the image at the URL I posted.

Sally.

nice thread. very rare on gfy :P

ive read a lot about this and it seems viable... It makes more sense to me that they are nazi or nazi tech based ufos rather than aliens. And of course the government could keep it secret, they kept the 'stealth plane' secret for decades.

Considering the b-52 was built in the 50s I'd say "what's really goin on?"

stop using drugs, you make no sense

If it burns jews, that means less processors. Better call Paul at CCBill and make sure they're set.

Ausweis bitte!

aliens were here 1000s of years ago, long before any germans

The nazis where on top of the scientific world when it came to development and had some of the most brilliant minds so yes, why not.

Germany would be best on world :( fucking Hitler fucked them

If Hitler had not attacked Russia most of Europe would have been speaking German today.

That would have been awesome...

Russia and the friendly allies won against Germany, Spain and enemy allies.
It is a fact that Hitler is the loser.

not sure if that is true.. hitler was having trouble keeping his own soldiers in check with three assassination attempts

I'm pretty sure that i've read that that plane was a "one-way" plane too. I think the reason was that as it entered high in the stratosphere to gain its long distance abilities, it was unable to regain its height after delivering its payload (using most of its fuel to get it's initial height in the first place) ..... Or something like that.

This video covers it all pretty well.



The weapon's effect would have been more psychological than practical however as it's modest size would have precluded it from carrying all that many bombs.

The above video envisions Sanger's plane carrying a nuke which is something Germany was still many years away from developing.

It's a bit surprising however that the USA didn't choose to followup on this particular research in the immediate aftermath of WWII.

Check out the Ancient Aliens series on History Channel. AWESOME!!! Goes into all this shit and more. WILD wild stuff.

Makes you think...

No, I'm saying they had direct plans to take off from Europe, bomb NYC, and return. They had plans to do it, and were working on planes to make it happen. I never said they had a working prototype.

Here's the deal. Hitler fucked up the end of his campaign with his two front attack. He was trying to do too much at once, and considering Stalin was killing off thousands of his own troops... he wasn't going to let Hitler give him much shit.

Nobody individually could have stopped him. But with the Allies bearing down on him, Russia and it's MASSIVE numbers and ruthless troops that either fought or died by their own commanding officers, he was fucked.

Hitler's soldiers were attempting to assassinate him were probably a direct result of his own paranoia. He was routinely killing his top advisers and anyone really close to him because he thought they were trying to defect or were spies, or were trying to kill him, or or or.

A "one-way" aircraft is correctly defined as an aircraft which is consumed, abandoned or destroyed after it has fulfilled it's function or purpose and does not come home. The Japanese Kamikaze is the archetypal example of a "one-way" airdraft. The Amerika would have been a re-useable aircraft and so does not fit the description of a "one-way".

It should also be noted that the US did indeed continue German research into missle technology and weird aircraft. The first US space rockets were little more than glorified V-2s and the famous Northrop B-49 Flying Wing

http://www.strange-mecha.com/aircraft/FW/yb49.JPG

was a developement of the German Horton Ho229V7 Night Fighter

http://www.strange-mecha.com/german/...ho/ho229v7.JPG

both of which were limited by engine technology as both were caught in the progression from reciprocating engines to jets.

The USAF lied about how good the Northrop was and scrapped the project to stifle research in other countries until the US could develope better engines. The strategy worked and no one else worked up a flying wing until the B-2 Bomber:

http://www.bugimus.com/stealth/newpi...rs_b2_0017.jpg

The design of the first nuclear-powered submarine, The Nautilus, was a direct result of the German Typ XXI U-Boot; basically a Typ XXI with the Diesels replaced by a nuclear reactor.

The problem with weapons research during the Hitlerzeit was that it was not focussed and good thing it was not!

Sally.

True. Germany had never won a two front war and both he and his generals knew it.

Thing is, Hitler was in a hurry and he allowed his impatience to convince him that this time would be different.

His haste, which became more and more of a factor from mid 1938 on, is what really did him in.

Hitler was convinced that he would die young and he felt he was running out of time. His premonition was correct btw. By 1944 he was suffering from both heart disease and Parkinson's. Even had everything gone his way it's unlikely that he would have lived much beyond 1945.

This impatience caused him to deviate from his own prewar timetable and to start rushing things.

In the 1930's the British and the French were bending over backwards to appease him. If after the Munich Agreement, Hitler had gone slower on his subsequent demands - and most importantly had he not broken that same agreement by seizing the Czech speaking parts of Czechoslovakia - he would have gotten the German speaking areas of Poland a couple of years later. The British told him as much at the time, albeit in strict confidence.

Had the Poles then refused Hitler's demands, which they almost certainly would have, Germany would have attacked Poland while Britain and France stayed on the sidelines.

With Poland gone, and Britain and France still neutral, Hitler's entire army would have found itself poised on the Russian border.

And that's when the real "fun" would have begun.

Haste makes waste.

i suspect most ufo's sighting were ussr/usa propeganda.

these stories of having ufo's were during the cold war.

its propeganda as the ones who have a ufo in thory have technology.

lets face it if they did have crashed ufo's and did not want people to know, thery would never get the story released.

i wouyld question any ufo going to earth. i find it unlikly that a ship will travel 4 million light years, fly over then fly off again. though if there are ufo's then chances are there arte lots of spacestations, and so far non have been seen.

and the question is why would any alien travel to earth? one has to remember that once you enter any planet you risk infecting or being infected by bugs. an alien could open its airlock and the bugs it carries wipe all life out without meaning to.

what i find intersting is that after the hinderbug disater, we seem to have not bothered with air ships.

airships seem so great, its a shame.