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cambaby 08-29-2010 09:42 AM

Obama goons hurt disabled man
 
Your days are numbered liberals. This man was peacefully demonstrating against Obama and then was tackled, held down, crushed by private security guards(no doubt liberals) at the Alaskan State Fair.


2012 08-29-2010 09:43 AM

good for him, maybe he'll make a few sheckles

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 09:50 AM

Awesome. Maybe next time he won't resist. Or maybe next time he'll get the taser.

cambaby 08-29-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450169)
Awesome. Maybe next time he won't resist. Or maybe next time he'll get the taser.

Enjoy your GPS tracking in California, freedom killer.

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450174)
Enjoy your GPS tracking in California, freedom killer.

:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 08-29-2010 10:53 AM

Too bad a riot didn't break out

Agent 488 08-29-2010 10:59 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_o...ouche_movement

BlackCrayon 08-29-2010 11:04 AM

liberal is the new n igger (for people like cambaby at least)

cambaby 08-29-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17450336)

What does that have to do with FREE SPEECH?

Those Westboro Church people dont get beat down like this.

Its about his rights.

cambaby 08-29-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17450349)
liberal is the new n igger (for people like cambaby at least)

No n igger is still n igger to me, it just doesnt mean black people.

Ethersync 08-29-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450169)
Awesome. Maybe next time he won't resist. Or maybe next time he'll get the taser.

...or shot in the back while handcuffed.

cambaby 08-29-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17450372)
...or shot in the back while handcuffed.

Thats reserved for n iggers only dude.

Ethersync 08-29-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450375)
Thats reserved for n iggers only dude.

http://www.gameculture.co.nz/wp-cont...WarriorsGC.jpg

cambaby 08-29-2010 11:39 AM

Kettles and Pots are both black.
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17450384)


baddog 08-29-2010 12:07 PM

Rent-a-cops sucked when I was a kid and they still suck today.

GatorB 08-29-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450149)
Your days are numbered liberals. This man was peacefully demonstrating against Obama and then was tackled, held down, crushed by private security guards(no doubt liberals) at the Alaskan State Fair.

You are a retard. Seriously why are you here? I don't get pornographers that support conservative. You do realize they hate you want to put you out of business and preferably want you in prison. Sorry I don't support anyone that takes food off my table and wants to imprison me.

theking 08-29-2010 01:00 PM

If the guy wants to push the issue...I suspect that he can have the security guards criminally charged with multiple counts.

dav3 08-29-2010 01:17 PM

Looks like kidnapping to me.

tony286 08-29-2010 01:22 PM

Rightwing porn guys are like jewish nazis lol

cambaby 08-29-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17450451)
You are a retard. Seriously why are you here? I don't get pornographers that support conservative. You do realize they hate you want to put you out of business and preferably want you in prison. Sorry I don't support anyone that takes food off my table and wants to imprison me.

Conservatives dont hate you idiot, they love business, they may disagree on a moral level and want to regulate this business(which wouldnt be a bad idea financially) but the liberal politicians will fuck just the same, they dont give a fuck about you. At least with conservatives you know who your customer base is, you think liberals BUY porn? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

TCLGirls 08-29-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450360)
What does that have to do with FREE SPEECH?

Those Westboro Church people dont get beat down like this.

Its about his rights.

Since there was private security at this event, it looks like the event was held at a privately owned fairground.

There are no 1st Amendment free speech rights on private property.

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17450522)
Since there was private security at this event, it looks like the event was held at a privately owned fairground.

There are no 1st Amendment free speech rights on private property.

let's bold this...

There are no 1st Amendment free speech rights on private property.

Ron Bennett 08-29-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17450522)
Since there was private security at this event, it looks like the event was held at a privately owned fairground.

There are no 1st Amendment free speech rights on private property.

And you'd be wrong...

"Mall Can't Ban Religious Conversations, Court Says"

http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/08/16/29625.htm

The recent case involved the mall imposing rules on the nature of conversations patrons could have ... and the appellate court struck it down - despite the mall being private property, patrons still have some free speech rights there.

As for the fairgrounds - was it a public accommodation (that is open to the general public much like a store, mall, etc) or was the event private? ... and if so, was the guy trespassing?

Regardless, either way, due to the president being there, it's likely the guy will be hard pressed to get any compensation - those with the "gold" make the "rules" - in the view of the power elite, much of the public, including that guy, is nothing more than a bunch of tiny gnats that can be squashed with no real consequences - protesters of high profile issues / events always need to keep that in mind and plan accordingly.

Ron

theking 08-29-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 17450508)
Looks like kidnapping to me.

I think that could/would be one of the criminal charges placed against the security guards. Security guards do not have any more legal powers than any U.S. citizen. Basically all they are legally allowed to do is observe and call the police...and at that point if they have cause they can make a citizens arrest...just as any other citizen can do.

ThunderBalls 08-29-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450520)
At least with conservatives you know who your customer base is, you think liberals BUY porn?


The customer base for gay and underage porn is conservatives, but thats about it.

Agent 488 08-29-2010 04:10 PM

http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-crime-...,2668811.story

Police eventually arrested the man and took him away after they discovered that Hill was carrying a loaded weapon in violation of fair rules. The fair’s Dean Phipps says the fairgrounds are private property, and visitors are subject to those rules.

“We feel like we responded appropriately,” Phipps said. “Because we are the state fair, everyone thinks we're part of the State of Alaska. We're not -- we're a non-profit.”

Phipps says there are several other political groups at the fair, but they all have to follow rules -- including staying within an assigned booth, and not walking around in the open like Hill was.

“They aren't allowed to walk up and down the aisle or congregate in public places, particularly when it’s interfering with the fairgoers’ experience,” Phipps said.

Fair officials say they don't view the force that the guards used as excessive.

“They're required to restrain until they can sort it out, so I don't think it was excessive from that standpoint, particularly when they discovered he had a loaded weapon he brought onto the fairgrounds,” Phipps said.

After police arrested Hill Thursday, he was charged with assault, disorderly conduct and criminal mischief.

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17450780)
http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-crime-...,2668811.story

Police eventually arrested the man and took him away after they discovered that Hill was carrying a loaded weapon in violation of fair rules. The fair?s Dean Phipps says the fairgrounds are private property, and visitors are subject to those rules.

?We feel like we responded appropriately,? Phipps said. ?Because we are the state fair, everyone thinks we're part of the State of Alaska. We're not -- we're a non-profit.?

Phipps says there are several other political groups at the fair, but they all have to follow rules -- including staying within an assigned booth, and not walking around in the open like Hill was.

?They aren't allowed to walk up and down the aisle or congregate in public places, particularly when it?s interfering with the fairgoers? experience,? Phipps said.

Fair officials say they don't view the force that the guards used as excessive.

?They're required to restrain until they can sort it out, so I don't think it was excessive from that standpoint, particularly when they discovered he had a loaded weapon he brought onto the fairgrounds,? Phipps said.

After police arrested Hill Thursday, he was charged with assault, disorderly conduct and criminal mischief.


just another bagger without a clue. maybe he'll find one in jail.

Agent 488 08-29-2010 04:15 PM

http://www.crimedoctor.com/security_guards_2.htm

Control Holds & Restraints. Certain situations may arise where words alone does not reduce the aggression. Sometimes security guards and security officers will need to get involved physically. At this level, minimal force would involve the use of bare hands to guide, hold, and restrain. This does not include offensive moves such as punching, tackling, and choking. Pain compliance holds could apply here, but only after ordinary holds fail to control an aggressive suspect.

Agent 488 08-29-2010 04:16 PM

lucky for the guards that nut didn't start shooting and hit some families.

theking 08-29-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17450788)
http://www.crimedoctor.com/security_guards_2.htm

Control Holds & Restraints. Certain situations may arise where words alone does not reduce the aggression. Sometimes security guards and security officers will need to get involved physically. At this level, minimal force would involve the use of bare hands to guide, hold, and restrain. This does not include offensive moves such as punching, tackling, and choking. Pain compliance holds could apply here, but only after ordinary holds fail to control an aggressive suspect.

This man did nothing to require restraint. He was holding a sign and was verbal...that is all. The security guards were required to observe and call the police. This guy can...if he so chooses push for the criminal arrest of the security guards...unless Alaska gives security guards legal powers beyond what a normal citizen has...which I doubt. Even if a prosecutor would not place the charges (which is within their call)...assuming Alaska has setting grand juries (which they may not) he can go before the grand jury and demand that the prosecutor place charges against him...which the members of the grand jury may or may not choose to do.

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17450811)
This man did nothing to require restraint. He was holding a sign and was verbal...that is all.

disagree. danger to himself and others.

sicone 08-29-2010 04:44 PM

I stubbed my toe today... is that Obamas fault too?

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 17450836)
I stubbed my toe today... is that Obamas fault too?

the preliminary stubbing groundwork was laid out & put in motion by Bush, but yes, since the actual stubbing event occurred under Obama's watch.... it's definitely his fault.

theking 08-29-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450831)
disagree. danger to himself and others.

Please explain to me how holding a sign and spewing some political bullshit is a danger to himself or anyone else?

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17450849)
Please explain to me how holding a sign and spewing some political bullshit is a danger to himself or anyone else?

he had a weapon.

Bill8 08-29-2010 05:06 PM

yet still you tea party people are afraid to fight for america.

why aren't you out in the streets with your guns?

pussies, the lot of you.

Alky 08-29-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450169)
Awesome. Maybe next time he won't resist. Or maybe next time he'll get the taser.

resisting.... a security guard?

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky (Post 17450880)
resisting.... a security guard?

_indeed.

theking 08-29-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450870)
he had a weapon.

The security guards were unaware that he was carrying when they assaulted him...and he may have had the legal right to carry...but in some states the right to carry does not mean that you can carry everywhere...thus he was apparently arrested for carrying at this event.

Bill8 08-29-2010 05:14 PM

all the private security guards I know are liberals.

everytime you see a rent-a-cop you know for sure he's a diehard socialist who wants to put the means of production into the hands of the proletariat.

i am pretty sure if private security guards find out another private security guard voted for mccain they are required by the security guard code to tase him.

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17450891)
The security guards were unaware that he was carrying when they assaulted him.

disturbing the peace, violating the grounds policies, belligerence, he appeared intoxicated, failed to comply with security's directions, how many reasons do you need to arrest the menace?

Bill8 08-29-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17450891)
The security guards were unaware that he was carrying when they assaulted him.

so you are saying those rentacops were not told to prevent that kind of thing happening at the alaska state fair, that they were agents of obamanation?

cambaby 08-29-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 17450879)
yet still you tea party people are afraid to fight for america. why aren't you out in the streets with your guns? pussies, the lot of you.

Keep pushing us you fuck, unfortunately we are a civil lot, unlike you and your negro animal followers.

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450901)
Keep pushing us you fuck, unfortunately we are a civil lot, unlike you and your negro animal followers.

there's that fierce bagger pride.... let it out, don't hold that shit in man. :)

cambaby 08-29-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450905)
there's that fierce bagger pride.... let it out, don't hold that shit in man. :)

http://homelandsecurityus.com/wp-con...10/07/DTOM.jpg

Bill8 08-29-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450901)
Keep pushing us you fuck, unfortunately we are a civil lot, unlike you and your negro animal followers.

pull the trigger.

you wont. you're afraid.

theking 08-29-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450898)
disturbing the peace, violating the grounds policies, belligerence, he appeared intoxicated, failed to comply with security's directions, how many reasons do you need to arrest the menace?

Security guards do not have the legal power to arrest...their legal power extends no further than yours or mine...unless as I stated...Alaska has given them extraordinary legal powers...which I doubt. In most...if not all states...security guards can do no more than observe and call the police...period...unless they are defending themselves or some one else from being battered.

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17450920)
Security guards do not have the legal power to arrest...their legal power extends no further than yours or mine...unless as I stated...Alaska has given them extraordinary legal powers...which I doubt. In most...if not all states...security guards can do no more than ob serve and call the police...period...unless they are defending themselves or some one else from being battered.

and they didn't arrest him. the police did.

cambaby 08-29-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 17450919)
pull the trigger. you wont. you're afraid.

Id tell you to ask several Iraqis I knew but unfortunately they are no longer here to tell their story.

Dont step into Michigan when the shit goes down, your kind isnt welcome here.

theking 08-29-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 17450900)
so you are saying those rentacops were not told to prevent that kind of thing happening at the alaska state fair, that they were agents of obamanation?

Where did you come up with that pigshit. They do not have the legal power to prevent...their legal powers do not extend beyond yours or mine...unless Alaska has given extraordinary powers to private security guards.


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