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DVTimes 09-29-2010 04:18 AM

Why $100 min payout
 
Well we know. Its so that your forced to send a few sales bvefore you get a $.

So many sites will have affiliates send them sales and never have to payout.

But is this going to have to change?

Surly if they pay out at a lower level more people will sign up to promote.

PS.

Could I also sugest that Nats include a function to auto post an email saying you made the min but your set to epass, so can you log in and change.

Many systems are going to love this problem with epass as I bet many people will not bother or remember to switch to check option.

Dirty Dane 09-29-2010 04:26 AM

$50 payouts with $50 wire fees sucks.

CamTraffic 09-29-2010 04:59 AM

Should be 1k minimum

anexsia 09-29-2010 07:41 AM

Say if the minimum is $150, will some sponsors allow you to be paid if you only have $94 and need the money?

fatfoo 09-29-2010 07:45 AM

$100 minimum payout is not a bad amount. It is reasonable.

2intense 09-29-2010 07:47 AM

some sponsors have 50 $ min payout

Wizzo 09-29-2010 07:58 AM

We have $50 min payout... :pimp

seeandsee 09-29-2010 07:59 AM

check option should be 50$

Kelli58 09-29-2010 08:01 AM

It costs money to write checks, not only the expense of the actual check but the ink in the printer, the stamp to mail it, the person you pay to process payroll for you each time. It's just to costly to write out checks for anything less than $50 for affiliates.

mn 09-29-2010 08:05 AM

high minimum = low amount of scammers
low minimum = high amount of scammers

signupdamnit 09-29-2010 08:05 AM

Thankfully there is ccbill. You can also usually see what the minimum is prior to signing up for a sponsor. If you think a $100 minimum is too high then don't sign up. I don't think many affiliates realize that they are still the ones in control of their traffic.

signupdamnit 09-29-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mn (Post 17551610)
high minimum = low amount of scammers
low minimum = high amount of scammers

Is the difference between $50 and $100 really going to make any difference to a scammer though?

kowalsky 09-29-2010 08:18 AM

Itīs a protection to prevent scammers to take the money faster than we realize what they are doing...

PR_Glen 09-29-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17550935)

PS.

Could I also sugest that Nats include a function to auto post an email saying you made the min but your set to epass, so can you log in and change.

Many systems are going to love this problem with epass as I bet many people will not bother or remember to switch to check option.

we emailed all of our affiliates informing them that they have to make the changes, but people don't like to keep their emails up to date or have spam filters that block such things, which is hilarious to have in this industry, truly...

oh, our min check payout is 25$ ;)

scouser 09-29-2010 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17551612)
Thankfully there is ccbill. You can also usually see what the minimum is prior to signing up for a sponsor. If you think a $100 minimum is too high then don't sign up. I don't think many affiliates realize that they are still the ones in control of their traffic.

:upsidedow when you combine all your ccbill ids into one id, this doesn't really apply though

signupdamnit 09-29-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by deadmoon (Post 17551999)
:upsidedow when you combine all your ccbill ids into one id, this doesn't really apply though

I know. :)

Frisky Cash 09-29-2010 11:10 AM

Thats why CCBill is so popular

dirtybaker1331 09-29-2010 11:18 AM

Is $100 minimum really that high??? If you are having trouble making the minimum of $100 then talk to your affiliate reps to help you boost sales. You would be surprised what good information and tips you will get. There are some programs with lower minimums. If we had $50 minimum payouts I think our accounting department would go insane with the amount of checks they would be sending each week.

I have also seen programs e-mail affiliates when they have met their payout which I think is awesome. We should be implementing that sometime in the near future hopefully.

DVTimes 09-29-2010 01:51 PM

I think $100 is too high.

Denny 09-29-2010 01:54 PM

Some programs have $50 but I don't think $100 is too much.

lagcam 09-29-2010 04:36 PM

I don't think you can send an international bank wire under $100 via swift, I think that is the minimum.

baddog 09-29-2010 05:24 PM

If you can't make $100 with the sponsor you should probably pick a different one.

Agent 488 09-29-2010 05:26 PM

programs should sent out daily checks no minimum since so many of them are closing down.

DVTimes 09-29-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17551873)
we emailed all of our affiliates informing them that they have to make the changes, but people don't like to keep their emails up to date or have spam filters that block such things, which is hilarious to have in this industry, truly...

oh, our min check payout is 25$ ;)

I think you forget that many affiliates promote many many sites, and will get 50 emails a day from programes.

I bet most ignore the emails or just cannot be bothered to log in to change.

Jdoughs 09-29-2010 05:30 PM

I'm all for bumping minimums to 500, let's clear out some riff raff.

Jdoughs 09-29-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17554201)
I think you forget that many affiliates promote many many sites, and will get 50 emails a day from programes.

I bet most ignore the emails or just cannot be bothered to log in to change.

That's really not a sponsors problem. They'd be much better leaving the promotion to guys sending lots of traffic.

It's your choice who you promote, no programs should lower payouts so more, less qualified affiliates can send traffic too.

Should save that for the guys who actually can send sales, and then there'd be more sales for everyone that is actually promoting a site, not just sending 1-2 sales.

This also leaves you open to push a couple sponsors harder yourself, and means that you'll get more sales with what you do decide to promote as it wont be out there everywhere by 1000 half assed guys.

MrRob 09-29-2010 05:47 PM

Abolish the minimum wage now! :1orglaugh

dallasnovelty 09-29-2010 05:48 PM

My minimum payout is $50 and havent anyone say anything about it. If you're pushing big traffic then $50 or 100 shouldn't be an issue but I know there are some small operations who push lots of smaller people and would like to get paid for it someday.

We are looking at doing a 20-25% commission split for our toy affiliates who are making sales for us. We are always adding new toys and have some very niche products that you cant find at every other out there like custom made chastity belts and devices. Hit me up if you any questions or need help signing up for www.dallasnoveltycash.com

pornmasta 09-29-2010 05:51 PM

There is no money in porn today, you should seriously consider to set the minimum to $5

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/reso...less-coder.jpg

punker barbie 09-29-2010 05:58 PM

ours is set @ $50 :)

signupdamnit 09-29-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17554207)
That's really not a sponsors problem. They'd be much better leaving the promotion to guys sending lots of traffic.

It's your choice who you promote, no programs should lower payouts so more, less qualified affiliates can send traffic too.

Should save that for the guys who actually can send sales, and then there'd be more sales for everyone that is actually promoting a site, not just sending 1-2 sales.

This also leaves you open to push a couple sponsors harder yourself, and means that you'll get more sales with what you do decide to promote as it wont be out there everywhere by 1000 half assed guys.

Not to start a conflict or anything (this is just my opinion) but I think it's this exact type of attitude the average affiliate should look out for. If you see this in a sponsor, better watch out. It's best that the people you do business with respect you. :2 cents:

topsiteking 09-29-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17553427)
I think $100 is too high.

:Oh crap
Really?
$100 minimum payout seems very reasonable.
I would even be fine with a higher one...

ArsewithClass 09-29-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17550944)
$50 payouts with $50 wire fees sucks.

Totally agree! Banks can refuse to change such a measly amount.

$100 or $150 minimum is much better :2 cents:

ArsewithClass 09-29-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17554254)
There is no money in porn today, you should seriously consider to set the minimum to $5

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/reso...less-coder.jpg

:1orglaugh Don't. The poor git does try :)

ArsewithClass 09-29-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frisky Cash (Post 17552512)
Thats why CCBill is so popular

Agreed :thumbsup


We promote our sites with ccbill billing. PPS & recurring. I was going to change to NATS or something with other billers... no way. They do a great job!

nikki99 09-29-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17554254)
There is no money in porn today, you should seriously consider to set the minimum to $5

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/reso...less-coder.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jdoughs 09-29-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17554273)
Not to start a conflict or anything (this is just my opinion) but I think it's this exact type of attitude the average affiliate should look out for. If you see this in a sponsor, better watch out. It's best that the people you do business with respect you. :2 cents:

It's not anything bad. Wholesale retailers in brick and mortar don't offer wholesale prices to consumers, many in fact won't even deal with them. They protect thier retailers by NOT offering deals to consumers, and leave that for the actual retail outlets.

This isn't much different. I think it would help clean out much of the part timers and hobbyists, from a business point of view, it makes sense, from a personal lets be buddies point of view it seems harsh.

I guess it boils down to if we're here to make money or make friends.

signupdamnit 09-29-2010 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17554562)
It's not anything bad. Wholesale retailers in brick and mortar don't offer wholesale prices to consumers, many in fact won't even deal with them. They protect thier retailers by NOT offering deals to consumers, and leave that for the actual retail outlets.

This isn't much different. I think it would help clean out much of the part timers and hobbyists, from a business point of view, it makes sense, from a personal lets be buddies point of view it seems harsh.

I guess it boils down to if we're here to make money or make friends.

I stand behind what I said.

Signbucksdaily: 12840 ENTRIES

Affiliates have a lot of choices too and I just don't think it makes sense to send a single click to a disrespectful or openly hostile sponsor. It's a good way to be screwed - one way or another. If they don't think they need most affiliates then by all means.....go for it and see. Please be open about it though. It helps to save time for all parties.

Jdoughs 09-29-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17554657)
I stand behind what I said.

Signbucksdaily: 12840 ENTRIES

Affiliates have a lot of choices too and I just don't think it makes sense to send a single click to a disrespectful or openly hostile sponsor. It's a good way to be screwed - one way or another. If they don't think they need most affiliates then by all means.....go for it and see.

In any job I've had, I've never gotten a check for every hour I've worked at the end of that hour, usually they come at the end of a week, or 2 weeks after enough hours have been accumulated. Paying per sale would be just like that, I mean $100 is nothing, thats 3 sales at most places.

That's all I'm saying, I don't consider it hostile to have a high minimum payout, even Google's Adsense payouts are $100 minimum I believe. They are far from a hostile or disrespectable company, in fact they are quite the opposite.

And similar to you stated above, not trying to start a fight, just discussing opinions, I don't run a program so my opinion is only worth it as a 5th wheel to begin with.

icymelon 09-29-2010 09:16 PM

I think $100 min is fair.

signupdamnit 09-29-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17554668)
In any job I've had, I've never gotten a check for every hour I've worked at the end of that hour, usually they come at the end of a week, or 2 weeks after enough hours have been accumulated. Paying per sale would be just like that, I mean $100 is nothing, thats 3 sales at most places.

That's all I'm saying, I don't consider it hostile to have a high minimum payout, even Google's Adsense payouts are $100 minimum I believe. They are far from a hostile or disrespectable company, in fact they are quite the opposite.

And similar to you stated above, not trying to start a fight, just discussing opinions, I don't run a program so my opinion is only worth it as a 5th wheel to begin with.

I don't think $100 is all that bad either. Although I can understand why it might make an affiliate think twice before signing up and sending traffic when they don't know if they will send a lot. If it's a problem don't sign up. I agree. :)

I think expressing an attitude of "screw the affiliates only sending 3 signups a month" is more of a problem than a $100 minimum itself. I've been in the industry a while and have seen a lot. Usually someone openly minimizing affiliate contributions or otherwise speaking of cutting them out is going to act on those beliefs in some way in due time if they have not done so already and in ways which might not be very visible. That's more what I was referring to. There's a lot of trust involved in this on both ends...

epitome 09-29-2010 10:03 PM

If you cannot make $100 with a sponsor then you shouldn't be pushing them anyway.

What sucks is when you sign up for a program that is either horrible or just doesn't do well with your traffic, push initial traffic, only get one sale and then give up.

We should be able to request a payout and close the account.

HerPimp 09-29-2010 11:55 PM

@epitome

Agreed. Let affiliates close out accounts that did not convert and take whatever is left...

Dating Port 10-02-2010 10:17 AM

I think $100 is fair. Hell, Ashley Madison has a $200 minimum and I'm fine with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HerPimp (Post 17554912)
@epitome

Agreed. Let affiliates close out accounts that did not convert and take whatever is left...

I agree with this also. If my traffic isn't a fit to the program, why keep sending to make a minimum that will take me 3 months to collect? I just stop sending but have 1 or 2 sales I can't get paid on. When I ask to close the account, I'm told I have to reach the minimum. I just write it off or resend later when I have a different stream I may think will work.

CaptainHowdy 10-02-2010 10:21 AM

Why would you want to promote a sponsor that doesn't makes you less than that??


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