3 MORE Companies Sue 1,100 Bit Torrent Users
 

http://www.xbiz.com/news/125817
"Steele, who filed the suits on behalf of the companies, operates Media Copyright Group, which offers "turnkey solution for combating online piracy of their copyrighted media."

Steele, who offers to track and ID infringers, as well as pursue damages against infringers on a contingency basis, told XBIZ that piracy has set the industry back substantially.

'I don't like piracy," he said. "I think that if left unchecked, the file sharers are going to set back this industry 20-30 years. Why should studios spend money for huge productions, when there are those who get it for free.'"

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition. Keep at it until every last fucking torrent site is dust.:2 cents:
Very soon i predict 100's of thousands of torrent suits...at that point MILLIONS of previous users will avoid torrent sites like the plague.

and why is suing bittorrent users easier than sue for example rapidshare users? rapid will sell you full data who downloaded and uploaded, or not?

yes i would think that going after rapid share and illegal tube users would be as easy, i believe you could get the info just as easily.
but you have to start somewhere:thumbsup

The next thing is getting Google etc to stop listing these fuckers in the top 20 of all search terms. This is aiding piracy and it seems there would be a legal issue or potential for lawsuits against google on this.

Jordan dances for anti-piracy!

from what i understand, it's easier to go after the large group in a torrent than it is to go after the individuals on rapidshare or tube. the lawyer can still got after them but it can cost up to $5K to get one uploader's info, only to find out he lives in another country and there's nothing you can do to him.

the same thing can happen with torrent users but there's a greater chance of catching US infringers.

The more the merrier.

Indeed, they will all flock to rapidshare and megaupload.

When they say 1,100 torrent users its nothing but 1100 IP addresses. ISPs aren't going to do shit w/out orders from the court. And even than companies like Comcast will say that its confidential.

They targeting bittorrent users beacuse it's impossible to get ip's on rapidshare or tube sites.

good time for tube traffic.

Why is it impossible? I'm out of the loop on that one.

So you're saying that if somebody uploaded a vid showing himself actually murdering somebody...and the govt. wanted to know who that was so they could find him...and went to rapidshare for that info, that they would be told it's "impossible"?

I'm not sure that anything is impossible. It might not be possible today (and I don't know that for fact either), but that doesn't mean that changes won't happen rather quickly to change that and make it very, very possible.

i dont think it is that impossible, even when money talks :winkwink: :2 cents: btw there are people who can tell ...

Yeah, been wondering about that one myself.

I mean if the ISP's are just releasing info on these IP's for some "porn company" that's pretty fucked up.

( not refering to the pirating as I don't support it, but it opens privacy issues if some porn company can get my personal info from my ISP... )

How can an ISP not to comply with the court order? It's not like they're giving their customers' info to a random "porn company" upon request.

Would you feel better if it was a mainstream company?

It shouldn't matter what kind of company it is. If they own the intellectual property and someone downloaded (stole) it for free then that someone deserves to get sued, as does the owner or owners of the site that facilitated the theft.

Don't want your privacy violated in this manner? Then don't go torrenting. I think that's the underlying message in all this.

anti-terror legislation pretty much killed privacy. they just hand over the info. little different in canada. more resistance but i am no ip lawyer.

Thats because you need to educate yourself first, son. Stop running your mouth with words you heard from Robbie. "tort and shit" . Google "Dunlap, Grubb and Weaver vs Time Warner Cable". Thats how things work in real world, dreamer. You think Pink Media has money for lawyer? Multiply that by 1000 and thats how many time warner has on its staff.

Fbomb...you aren't old enough to call people "son" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

And you don't know shit about what you're talking about. I just got finished over on another true business forum reading about the take down of the old wp board and how much money the guy who took it down is making off the uploaders and he is getting every ip he wants.

You are ignorant and commenting on shit that is so far out of your league. But you're funny to me. A lot like a much classier and smarter gideongallery. But an ignorant douche all the same. :1orglaugh

Dumb ass, we're talking about ISPs vs Legal issues and not some guy taking down wp board. That story was was all over this forum last year. Guy uploaded some pix with special markings and busted the guy who posted them on wp. Go back to your true business board Robbie.

Here clown. Read this.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...44079676.shtml

Not that I would expect you to understand issues they are addressing there. After all it's not on a 8th grade drop out level.


Doing lines tonight?

What strikes the most is that people that actually do try to fight piracy won't even bother post here day and night about their success, future plans and of course the "etc.. etc..".. its some illiterate morons with GED or kids from eastern europe who have no fucking clue how things work here. God bless Pink Media and all those that actually follow thru and do something..

PS: Robbie, you can save your childish come back with "what have you done, surfer". Go get an eight ball for you and the lady of the night.

yep, then rapidshare and megaupload users will get their asses sued off, and then they will go to....and then they will go to....and then there will no places left...hahahaha

Robbie, did I get you all confused with that article?
I am sorry man, didn't mean to spoil your night.
Have a good one. I'm out.

LOL! You still don't understand what is happening all around you do you gideongallery Jr.?

When you grow up and own your own business in whatever field it is (cause it obviously won't be porn) you may amount to something. Until then you are now officially just a clown to me. So off to ignore with you. I had hoped to salvage you, but just looking over all of your posts on GFY it's pretty obvious that trolling is the only thing you really do here.

Goodbye FBomb...you are just soooo smart and so much more intelligent than everybody else. And yet...you aren't shit in this business. Wonder how that can be?

Later on player. Enjoy calling my name out in all of your posts the way you have been doing the last few days. It's the only recognition you'll ever get. I'm glad I could help you in your lonely sad life.

Now I'm off to hit the "Ignore" button on your sorry ass.
I love this!

I know where this is all coming from, and can certainly see the benefits... but also can see it as another shot in the foot to adult, trust is something we're already lacking from surfers and now they're basically being "embarrassed" into settling on a lawsuit, which seems like borderline blackmail to me.... perhaps I'm wrong?

I mean none of this shit worked for mainstream, and yes I'd feel more comfortable with say Virgin music accessing my info over MidgettrannyHorsedicks.com anyday.

IMO it's the site owners fault in the first place, they should've dealt with this shit 10 years ago and we wouldn't be where we are.

The site owners till this day do very little to protect their content, and they're all in bed with the same fuckers that steal it all too often, especially when it comes to tubes.

But hey now that we're all broke and hurting, let's go after the same surfers we fucked for years, making them lose even more trust in the porn industry.

IMO surfers view the torrent sites are a lot safer to visit than a porn site, and that says a lot in itself... it's not all about the free porn, many of these guys that are downloading stuff have been fucked time and time again, charged $200 for a membership that should've been a $5 trial and then we wonder why they go to where it's free? and certain they are getting what they want?

The fact that piracy is so huge shows just how much this industry failed itself.

I knew you will get all confused and have absolutely nothing to say on topic. Robbie, Im not going to get in to the fact that I have probably been in this biz at least as long as you are if not longer and I have seen you mug in person. I know a lot about you and how much you really done and "own" in this biz.
I know, its hard for you to argue with real fact when presented. After all having a free site, tgp and know how to render videos doesn't add much to your intelligence. That why you are always going to be a village idiot, no matter how much you brag about what you have done or what u will never do. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you've been had.. or like you juveniles would say 'owned'

This industry only "failed" when all of it's product was given away for free.

During the end of the 1990's and the beginning of the 2000's was when the MOST scamming online in adult was ever done. It was called "dialers" That shit outright stole hundreds and thousands of dollars from each surfer without them ever knowingly buying anything.

And yet...RECORD sales across the board.

Porn always sells and sells big...that is until you give it all away for free.

That's not the "industry" failing itself. That's just plain out stealing and destroying our business.

No industry on the face of this Earth could withstand having their own product stolen from them, given out to millions and millions of people. And survive.

People aren't running to pirate sites because they are scared they might get charged an extra $30 for a membership they didn't know was tacked onto the one that they bought....they are going there because it's FREE.

I own a corvette, a prowler, and a jeep. I have them all paid off. They are mine. But you know what...if they had been offered for FREE I wouldn't have paid one thin dime for any of them.

I like to read. I pay for every book I read. But if they were free I would just do like everybody else.

Think about it man. People's lives have been ruined by this shit. It's time to turn it around.

If you have skin in the game your attitude changes REAL quick. Kinda funny like that. When it's somebody else getting stolen from it ain't a big deal to most folks. But when it's you getting stolen from...then you are out for blood.

I've seen shit come and go in this business. But I've never seen anything as bad as the last two years.

But I see it turning around. And the first step is what is happening now. There is more, a lot more coming.

As I've said before...tick tock....time is running out on piracy. All I can say is kick back and watch. One way or another we will either all be out of business or the pirates will.

maybe its just me but the image is not moving.. so Jordan is not dancing :(

I provided services to adult webmasters, I am suffering right along with you all, the less you all make, the harder it is for me to make any dough as well.

Point is it's not the surfers that should be targeted, it's pointless in my opinion, all it does is makes adult companies out to be even shadier and extortionists. I mean how do you sue some Father jerkin off to free porn, yet allow the tubes to rock on, untouched?

I think you don't talk to enough people outside of the biz, because your ideas of how we're viewed is flawed.

Fact: Porn is known for scams, virus problems, theft and more... people that know I've worked in the biz, get a virus and ASSUME INSTANTLY it's from my fucking email, simply because I work in the biz... we've got that bad of a reputation.

If you all wanted to make money, protect your fucking product. I can log into 90% of the "members areas" on this board, and guess what... There's fucking next to nothing in there, and what is in there isn't protected, and is right there waiting to download and steal, and you guys expect them to pay $40 a month??

Remember "Fully Downloadable movies you can download and KEEP!! " remember that whole trend and marketing strategy? well here it is to bite you all in the ass, PROTECT your fucking media, instead of handing it out on a platter and crying when they upload it somewhere else.

TGP2 was the best thing to happen to adult in along time, and yet you all dropped the fucking ball, and went TOTALLY in the other direction.
Conversions on TGP2 were easily twice what a TGP gallery was, but hey, why don't we make a site FULL of porn videos and see how much we can sell then!! that sounds like an idea!!

I mean come on man, you've been in the biz long enough to know the biz has fucked millions of people and now you all cry when they would rather get their video free?

I've never paid for porn because I've worked in the biz, however if I had to I would likely NEVER pay for it simply based on what I've seen in the members areas of most of the top sponsors here, and in adult period.

Part of my service was building members area layouts, and populating some areas and the basic business model for 10 years was get them to pay, get them in the members area, where there's basically fuckin' nothing, and then try to upsell them again cause you know they are converting surfers.

"Oh hey, thanks for the $49, here's a bunch of other sites with next to nothing in them for another $45 you can sign up for, and hey, after you sign up for that we're gonna charge your card for $199 in hidden cross sales and all sorts of other crooked shit"

This biz has driven itself into the ground basically because 85% of porn webmasters are absolute retards with no business sense or ethics whatsoever, and most made some easy money back in the day... when in "real life" they'd not be suited to work at Mcdonalds. What you're going to see is all those retards back at Mcdonalds like they should be as the industry gets worse.

The porn sites that actually offered something in their members areas convert to this day I'm sure, even with a hit from the tubes.

Also, torrent porn aren't the damn problem, I mean really ? Download for 2 hours when you can hit a tube site and jerk off that minute (for hours)? come on.

no they won't. you don't know what you're talking about.

get educated on what is already happening. the isps are rolling on everyone. most of them.

your information is incorrect.

:1orglaugh thanks for proving my point.

Record sales, RECORD scams, and now we wonder where our customers have gone.

;)

TGP2 was a complete and total disaster and mistake. We didn't "drop the ball"
When you can make 1000 times the sales with hardcore galleries...you do it. You don't leave money on the table.

Point is that our tgps have always made tons of sales. But we never used FULL STOLEN SCENES.

That's the part you aren't really seeing in all of this.

And I understand that your business is affected by this too. But guess what? If it wasn't just you being affected second hand...but someone actually STEALING what you do for a living, and I came on here and sanctimoniously told you that it was your own fault and that your industry had failed and you dropped the ball...you would probably tell me to go fuck myself because I don't know what I'm talking about.

See, that's the part that gets me so riled up. Not only have we been attacked on all sides, watched people losing their jobs, companies cutting back on everything, watching my affiliate work deteriorate because I can't sell memberships to sites that are available for free...but then we have to catch grief from people who SHOULD be on our side in this fight.

It just makes me shake my head at the thought process from some of you.

You're all cheering for the wrong guys. And you're attacking your own home team.

Only on GFY I suppose...

One more assclown joined Robbie's VIP club



http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...44079676.shtml

They didn't "go" anywhere. X-sells happened for over a decade. Record sales. And where were x-sells the worst? What prompted Visa to change? MAINSTREAM. Not adult.

Our customers are all getting our product for free. Not sure you want to see that. I'm thinking this is just an argument for argument's sake. So I won't do it anymore with you.

I don't have a clue what it is that you do for a living. But it ain't producing content for damn sure. But I'll tell you this..whatever it is you do, if I stole your product and gave it away for free you'd be fucked too.

Robbies ace. rather than facing the truth, he needs a cheerleader to gain another inch in his e-penis.

You all fucked yourselves.

And FYI, I dunno if you promoted TGP2 at all, from the sounds of it you didn't at all cause conversions were much higher in my experience, problem was greedy webmasters wouldn't follow suit and the trend became to give more and more hardcore for free, hence now with the video age, we find ourselves surrounded by tubes.

I promise you had we ALL followed the less is more approach we'd all be making more money.

Circle jerks and blind links and the BULLSHIT to find the porn back in the day is what made it convert.

I could search for HOURS back in the day and not find suitable jerk off material, and out of frustration I'd finally buy somewhere ( pre-biz days )

Now, why bother when I can hit one of the bagillion tube sites, hunt down that perfect video and cum all over my lap within 5 minutes.

TGP webmasters from the 00's think they are special, but fact is they did nothing but start the downward spiral and now they're all crying that porn doesn't sell... Well no shit it doesn't sell, it's fucking EVERYWHERE.

It's the webmasters that did that, not the surfers.

If I was making content, i'd protect it, and It'd be unique, but I am a coder.
It gives me a unique vantage point on the industry. Trust me.

You are failing to see the fact that it's the WEBMASTERS that put that free porn out there.

Who are ya cheering for now?

I don't know what you've brought to the biz, but it's not brains.

here's a tip for all the retards that read my thread, business 101
Supply and demand.
The lower the supply, the higher the demand, and therefor the higher the asking price.
You guys are lucky to be selling $1 memberships today.

I'm fuckin' DRUNK and I can make sense of this, but you all go blaming the surfers we screwed for 15-20 years.

Do you have any clue which TGP's were me? I NEVER did any blindlinks or circlejerks. And I can guarantee you that by giving surfers the best possible experience and showing them exactly what they wanted that we were one of the biggest whale affiliates in this business for over 10 years.

You are not referring to a real TGP. You're talking cookie cutter circle jerks. We NEVER did tht and that's why our tgp's were the biggest traffic sites in the world with the best quality traffic for many, many years trading back and forth for number one on Sex Tracker with The Hun for around a decade.

Anyway, you think I fucked myself. So I don't have much more to say. You are another guy who thinks he's smarter than everybody else and you know my business so much better than me. How can i argue with that logic? Carry on brother.

That's not true.

Hmmmm....unable to have a conversation with someone without insulting me? Fuck you. You're on ignore now.

Very good point.

Last night my bike was stolen ( true story ) not that great of a bike given the current state of the biz, but that's not the point.

Who was I mad at? The thief that needed a ride home? or the dummy that left it on the lawn unlocked? you guess.

:1orglaugh Okay bud.

Typical 00's TGP webmaster, head in the sand and fails to see how he fucked up the biz.
You go on and ignore me, I Know the truth hurts.
Goes to show why this biz is fucked, it's the blind leading the deaf.

FYI, there is a difference between insult and fact, and if you can't see that its the WEBMASTERs that put all this porn out, then I guess my statement was fact.

Probably, his replies to my posts show his reading comprehension isn't all that great :2 cents:

Because they don't have public trackers. It's not hard. The abhorrent lawyers cannot use their software if there is no tracker.

This is why you've only been able to blackmail BT users. Not the serious pirates on Usenet. Not the pikey tubes. Not rapidshare. Not private forums. No where else. Did you not ever wonder why?

Robbie, are you unaware when someone presents a point you are unable to argue against you call them a surfer and tell them to fuck off. Almost every time.

Zounds! The irony.

More warriors joining the battle. :thumbsup

Not true?Let's say i go to pornhub and view tons of illegal movies from content producers which you represent,and you want to sue me.How you would get my ip?That's impossible unless you request it from pornhub,and i doubt they will give it.

You are SO not going to be Robbie's friend.
If you have an IQ above 65, you might as well put yourself on Robbie's ignore list. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Oh shit. You're not going to his B-day party either.