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Vendzilla 10-01-2010 05:15 PM

Senate pass NASA bill
 
the bill calls for 19 billion dollars and 60 billion over 3 years
http://www.universetoday.com/74673/h...a-budget-bill/

Obama changed the role of NASA for this bill and today 1,400 employee's are getting laid off
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39463237...science-space/

Hamilton Sundstrand gets 729 million dollar space suit contract
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39466741...science-space/

NASA chief heads to Saudi Arabia for Muslim outreach?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...-saudi-arabia/

I guess NASA is doing things differently now

dyna mo 10-01-2010 05:21 PM

nasa's been fucked by the gov for decades now.

persona non grata.

my pops was a higher up career man there for several decades. i grew up listening to him bitch about funding.

Vendzilla 10-01-2010 05:29 PM

Just find it funny that they get 19 billion and cut jobs and send the head guy to talk to the muslims, I mean, Gibbs said that they are still about space exploration, when did the Saudia Arabia start sending up ships to the moon?

CC 10-01-2010 05:39 PM

I have 2 friends that work for NASA in Houston....today was the last day for my one friend and my other friend is expected to be fired within a year or so. I personally think it's a shame.

tony286 10-01-2010 05:45 PM

So should barry commit more tax dollars to nasa to keep those jobs Vend? Just a newsflash the right comes in and wants to cut half a trillion from the budget plan on lots of people losing their jobs. But the millionaires will get to keep their tax cuts so its all good.

IllTestYourGirls 10-01-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17562126)
So should barry commit more tax dollars to nasa to keep those jobs Vend? Just a newsflash the right comes in and wants to cut half a trillion from the budget plan on lots of people losing their jobs. But the millionaires will get to keep their tax cuts so its all good.

Maybe they should learn to function responsibly? How can you be firing people when you just received 19 billion more dollars?

But I know you are from the left so you think the more something fails the more money should be spent on it. :Oh crap

tony286 10-01-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17562155)
Maybe they should learn to function responsibly? How can you be firing people when you just received 19 billion more dollars?

But I know you are from the left so you think the more something fails the more money should be spent on it. :Oh crap

vend blamed barry for 1400 people being laid off

IllTestYourGirls 10-01-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17562168)
vend blamed barry for 1400 people being laid off

Well he is to a point.

Vendzilla 10-01-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17562126)
So should barry commit more tax dollars to nasa to keep those jobs Vend? Just a newsflash the right comes in and wants to cut half a trillion from the budget plan on lots of people losing their jobs. But the millionaires will get to keep their tax cuts so its all good.

so please explain to me about fiscal responsibility, why is the head of NASA headed to Saudi Arabia, why are they laying off 1400 employee's when they just got money?

Streamline the government, then you won't have to worry about taxing the rich, then the rich can invest the money that will provide more jobs. Just make it better to keep the business in the US, NAFTA should go bye bye.
Next end the entitlements for illegal aliens, they will relocate themselves when that happens

Vendzilla 10-01-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17562168)
vend blamed barry for 1400 people being laid off

Barry ended the program that those people were employed, so yes

tony286 10-01-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17562185)
so please explain to me about fiscal responsibility, why is the head of NASA headed to Saudi Arabia, why are they laying off 1400 employee's when they just got money?

Streamline the government, then you won't have to worry about taxing the rich, then the rich can invest the money that will provide more jobs. Just make it better to keep the business in the US, NAFTA should go bye bye.
Next end the entitlements for illegal aliens, they will relocate themselves when that happens

The rich dont invest tax breaks in new jobs that's a myth. If you are rich a tax break is just money to throw in the pile. Also if you got chinese making iphones for 30 cents an hour those jobs aint coming back. I dont care how big of a tax break you give.

GetSCORECash 10-01-2010 06:17 PM

To get on point With The announcement.

We aré going to Mars!!!!!

Vendzilla 10-01-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17562230)
The rich dont invest tax breaks in new jobs that's a myth. If you are rich a tax break is just money to throw in the pile. Also if you got chinese making iphones for 30 cents an hour those jobs aint coming back. I dont care how big of a tax break you give.

So you don't have a problem with Streamlining the government and denying entitlements to illegal aliens?
Right now,it's too easy for outsourceing to other countries, the fact they made Toyota's in California means there are ways to build business in the US and fair trade is the best start, too bad we lost that plant

Ethersync 10-01-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17562230)
The rich dont invest tax breaks in new jobs that's a myth. If you are rich a tax break is just money to throw in the pile.

Have you ever made a sizable investment in anything before?

tony286 10-01-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17562268)
Have you ever made a sizable investment in anything before?

Yep my business of 10 yrs. You make 10 million dollars you get $100,000 tax break. Are you really going to run out to hire someone?
You have a biz you cut your payroll in half but the numbers are excellent even though sales are down profitability is way up. Because the people left are scared shitless and working twice as hard to protect their jobs. You get a tax break are you going to hire someone?
During the height of the bush years,my dad worked for one of the biggest health ins companies in america and they were constantly laying off and sending customer service offshore. They said it made them leaner and the chairman got a half a billion dollar bonus. He got the tax breaks and no one was hired but a shitload were laid off.

woj 10-01-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17562230)
The rich dont invest tax breaks in new jobs that's a myth.

tax is nothing more than another expense... when expenses (taxes) increase, businesses feel increased pressure and so they are forced to "trip the fat" a bit...

lets say you make 50k after taxes now, taxes get raised and now you make only 40k... obviously you are 10k short now, so what will you do? obviously you will do whatever it takes to "trip the fat", which often means firing people...

or lets say you have 100k lieing around and are looking to invest it into some venture, lets say a restaurant that would hire 10 people... currently, you would make 50k per year from that restaurant...
but if taxes rise, you will make only 40k/year from that restaurant... at 40k/year it might not be worthwhile to you anymore, so you may choose to not to invest in it, and so no jobs get created...

seems pretty common sense to me... :2 cents:

tony286 10-01-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17562305)
tax is nothing more than another expense... when expenses (taxes) increase, businesses feel increased pressure and so they are forced to "trip the fat" a bit...

lets say you make 50k after taxes now, taxes get raised and now you make only 40k... obviously you are 10k short now, so what will you do? obviously you will do whatever it takes to "trip the fat", which often means firing people...

or lets say you have 100k lieing around and are looking to invest it into some venture, lets say a restaurant that would hire 10 people... currently, you would make 50k per year from that restaurant...
but if taxes rise, you will make only 40k/year from that restaurant... at 40k/year it might not be worthwhile to you anymore, so you may choose to not to invest in it, and so no jobs get created...

seems pretty common sense to me... :2 cents:

If you have an accountant worth anything if you are only making 50k a year from a restaurant. You are paying close to nothing in taxes.

Serge Litehead 10-01-2010 07:43 PM

we should just move Nasa to China, we would be already on Mars texting Earth from iphones

czarina 10-01-2010 07:46 PM

may be they need extra oil to fuel their space ships

Rochard 10-01-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GetSCORECash (Post 17562233)
To get on point With The announcement.

We aré going to Mars!!!!!

We are finally going to Mars. Outstanding.


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