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Loch 10-06-2010 08:08 AM

Does Chris Mallic really deserve all the flack and personal attacks?
 
Now i don?t believe anyone really knows what happened in this story yet, So far its all speculation as to what the details are.
So until we know for sure why even bother speculating as it really does not change the situation or matter in any way.

Ok, Epassporte is done as a company, but they are for now staying in business to sort out the rest of the funds ?Lets assume that is correct until proven wrong?.
So far they have been good under the circumstances to get people their money, if you don?t think so then you should have a chat with the people in this industry that has been through this on 3 other occasions and lost a LOT more with ZERO ability to even contact the money operation.

As for ST K in Belize
Again, IF they get the cards activated this or next week, which i am almost positive that they will.
They have no reason not to as the amount they :2 cents:have from Epass is nothing at all compared to what other Adult companies have with them.

Where does that leave Chris Mallic?s Rep?
If the above is the outcome ill have to say that i will bank with Chris any damn time as honestly the above would be almost unheard off in our industry.
Usually when things start to go south people pull out and RUN.....

targetpro 10-06-2010 08:18 AM

I think so. He took a big chance making a movie glorifying his life, at a time where his practices are still considered quasi-legal at best. As far as I know he hasn't reached any settlement to date with the DOJ regarding his US facing poker processing? Middle Men was a slap in the face to alot of decision makers. So to answer your question, yes, I believe he deserves everything that he's getting right now.

Agent 488 10-06-2010 08:20 AM

neg repped you for this thread.

woj 10-06-2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 17577728)
Ok, Epassporte is done as a company, but they are for now staying in business to sort out the rest of the funds ?Lets assume that is correct until proven wrong?..

No one has received ACH transfers that were requested last week... so no, I don't think they are sorting it out...:2 cents:

Agent 488 10-06-2010 08:22 AM

there are lots of of people with missing money, if a miracle occurs and people can access their visas the way it is set up some wont be able to get it all if they have a big balance. he also fucked up a lot of people's biz for his idiocy.

the was in cabo while epass crashed. nuff said.

Naughty-Pages 10-06-2010 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 17577728)
Where does that leave Chris Mallic?s Rep?.

Does he deserve the personal attacks, etc??

hell yes..

he still has yet to answer the simple question of "what exactly happened"?..

and it is obvious now why he never said what happened and what steps he was taking to correct the situation.. he knew all along but did not want to tell people.

Answering questions, admitting fault, etc.. might have saved his reputation, but hiding from the public and ignoring the requests to answer simple questions means no one can ever trust him again.

BlackCrayon 10-06-2010 08:25 AM

i think the fact that he has been totally silent and just used MichaelO as a sacrificial lamb and then to find out hes been vacationing in cabo while all this was going on, its just too much. he obviously never cared so why should anyone care about him?

Domain Broker 10-06-2010 08:26 AM

Let's see here:

1. Can no longer access account, check.
2. Can no longer call them and get someone, check.
3. Emailing them gets no response, check.

Yes, he deserves anything that happens to him.

cherrylula 10-06-2010 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17577791)
neg repped you for this thread.

nice :1orglaugh

cherrylula 10-06-2010 08:31 AM

well as far as I am concerned it was his name on the last messages we got about all of this, so yeah its his fault.

And Chris Mallick is a fucking thief, because he stole my money! A fucking criminal.

I thought the money was safe, yeah suuuure. He is also a LIAR.

Matyko 10-06-2010 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17577815)
Let's see here:

1. Can no longer access account, check.
2. Can no longer call them and get someone, check.
3. Emailing them gets no response, check.

Yes, he deserves anything that happens to him.

:thumbsup :pimp

Sly 10-06-2010 08:32 AM

The captain of the ship is responsible for righting it if it should stray off course. Instead the captain sent Michael O to do his cheering while he was off doing who knows what.

I have no sympathy. There was absolutely no transparency at all. We still have no clue what even happened. People's lives were effected by this... I think some are forgetting that.

charlie g 10-06-2010 08:36 AM

He is a fucking liar.. that is known. IF everyone gets their money he should till rot in hell for putting so many people through agony. Anyone with half a brain knows that fat tub of shit knew why the bank cut off the VV. The question is, how long before September did hollywood know he was about to fuckover thousands of people.

Face it, dude lost sense of reality when he thought his life was movie material. He neglected Epass because his movie was going to make him rich and famous.

I hope I can throw some change at him when he is living under a bridge at the overpass.

u-Bob 10-06-2010 08:36 AM

For almost a month I remained "carefully optimistic", never attacked epass on the boards (mostly out of respect for the way Michael O and I had done business in the past).

But now.... well, closing down is one thing, abandoning things and at the same time bragging on facebook about taking a holiday in Cabo (while he was supposedly working on fixing things and giving the most for his clients) that's something totally different...

Agent 488 10-06-2010 08:39 AM

worse that he made michael spread flat out lies for a month: that he was working on a resolution 24-7 when he was really partying in cabo, that things would get resolved and have patience when the more you waited the more fucked you got and on and on ...

gumdrop 10-06-2010 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17577874)
For almost a month I remained "carefully optimistic", never attacked epass on the boards (mostly out of respect for the way Michael O and I had done business in the past).

But now.... well, closing down is one thing, abandoning things and at the same time bragging on facebook about taking a holiday in Cabo (while he was supposedly working on fixing things and giving the most for his clients) that's something totally different...

Indeed! :2 cents::thumbsup

Agent 488 10-06-2010 08:40 AM

the guy is a piece of human shit no way around it.

Quagmire 10-06-2010 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17577815)
Let's see here:

1. Can no longer access account, check.
2. Can no longer call them and get someone, check.
3. Emailing them gets no response, check.

Yes, he deserves anything that happens to him.

anything? like brutal anal rape with a pineapple?

Ravage 10-06-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naughty-Pages (Post 17577808)
he still has yet to answer the simple question of "what exactly happened"?..

and it is obvious now why he never said what happened and what steps he was taking to correct the situation.. he knew all along but did not want to tell people.

Answering questions, admitting fault, etc.. might have saved his reputation, but hiding from the public and ignoring the requests to answer simple questions means no one can ever trust him again.

People need to accept that you'll never know for sure what the reason is/was. The simple fact is the St. Kitts bank locked him out and removed him from managing the VV accounts. Accept it and move on. Running around thread to thread and racking your brain on what the reasons could be are futile.

Further to that everyone needs to understand that there is NO safe eWallet company out there, no matter how many questions you ask get answered from them and how much background checking you conduct, how safe it all appears to be, etc. They are not a bank.

The only two things you can trust are an FDIC bank and your sock drawer.

Ethersync 10-06-2010 08:47 AM

Y e s !

Tjeezers 10-06-2010 08:59 AM

Yes he does.
He deserves this, and he actually abused all our faith.

I say Fuck Him and without foreplay

Chezter 10-06-2010 09:04 AM

Yes he does. Everyone can make a mistake, but why he didn't give us any info? Nothing! He treated his customers as shit... He also harmed this whole business in the worst time...

Tempest 10-06-2010 09:06 AM

He could have easily have avoided all this hate if he had communicated far better and constantly.. It's real easy to keep people calm, but he let it build up in a vacuum. All that stress and worry has no where else to go except back at him. While the events that triggered this may not have been his fault, the backlash is completely his... For all that, he deserves what he gets now regardless...

The fact is, his lack of communications displays a disdain for all his customers... What happened when the auto CEOs showed up in their jets? What happened to the BP CEO when he made stupid comments and was off having some fun during the spill? The lessons are there but apparently if you hav a big ego, you don't see or learn them.

18teens 10-06-2010 09:19 AM

He deserves everything he's gotten and a whole lot more.

greg80 10-06-2010 09:25 AM

He deserves to be attacked. He seems to play it out like nothing has happened on Facebook.

They removed all the epass comments from oxymoron entertainment page here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Los-An...t/169233480057

2intense 10-06-2010 09:27 AM

yes, and much more...................

amateurbfs 10-06-2010 09:30 AM

If it was an honest problem there would of been more communication, this shit seems all too thought out and well planned.

SiMpLe 10-06-2010 09:34 AM

If I could get my 5 figure wire I requested every week for over a month now .... Maybe he would be re-added to the xmas list. Currently he has douche status in my book.

Sly 10-06-2010 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiMpLe (Post 17578207)
If I could get my 5 figure wire I requested every week for over a month now .... Maybe he would be re-added to the xmas list. Currently he has douche status in my book.

You must not have been to enough of his parties.

tiger 10-06-2010 09:39 AM

Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?

Loch 10-06-2010 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Rental Chris (Post 17577923)
People need to accept that you'll never know for sure what the reason is/was. The simple fact is the St. Kitts bank locked him out and removed him from managing the VV accounts. Accept it and move on. Running around thread to thread and racking your brain on what the reasons could be are futile.

Further to that everyone needs to understand that there is NO safe eWallet company out there, no matter how many questions you ask get answered from them and how much background checking you conduct, how safe it all appears to be, etc. They are not a bank.

The only two things you can trust are an FDIC bank and your sock drawer.

:2 cents::2 cents:

I get that people are angry and that lives has been affected, that is not really my only point here.
I also see that every second post again is speculation.

Epass has already done MUCH better than the other processor crashes i have ever been through....its sad that that is a good thing, not great i agree, but better then the alternative.

Lets see what happens in the next 2-4 weeks.

Phoenix66 10-06-2010 09:43 AM

I guess no one will go searching him to beat him up. Webmasters are just not that kind of people. However, what we can and must do - to start an information war against him.

Loch 10-06-2010 09:48 AM

So this was one of the REP comments left, Negative of course as everyone hates doing anything than unproductive stalking of CM instead of actually doing everything you can to get paid like Shap and many others.

You probably haven't lost any money with ePass...
A: I don’t consider anything lost until the battle is over, why would i?

spazlabz 10-06-2010 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naughty-Pages (Post 17577808)
Does he deserve the personal attacks, etc??

hell yes..

he still has yet to answer the simple question of "what exactly happened"?..

and it is obvious now why he never said what happened and what steps he was taking to correct the situation.. he knew all along but did not want to tell people.

Answering questions, admitting fault, etc.. might have saved his reputation, but hiding from the public and ignoring the requests to answer simple questions means no one can ever trust him again.

I have to agree with you, I wanted to say that we did not know all the details yet but even so, the points you make are good ones so +1 :thumbsup

SleazyDream 10-06-2010 09:53 AM

well said Loch

iSpyCams 10-06-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Rental Chris (Post 17577923)

The only two things you can trust are an FDIC bank and your sock drawer.

Spam me FDIC ensured affiliate programs offering sock drawer payouts!!!

McSpike 10-06-2010 10:39 AM

What do you all mean? Our money is SAFE!!

Sly 10-06-2010 10:43 AM

I just had an affiliate contact me asking if I know why they cannot sign in to their ePass account.

Maybe one of you guys have a great explanation for that.

Chezter 10-06-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McSpike (Post 17578595)
What do you all mean? Our money is SAFE!!

Yes and finally not in motion :)

gumdrop 10-06-2010 10:45 AM

All motion has ceased...did any of you really thing it was perpetual?

Choker 10-06-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 17577728)
Now i don?t believe anyone really knows what happened in this story yet, So far its all speculation as to what the details are.
So until we know for sure why even bother speculating as it really does not change the situation or matter in any way.

Ok, Epassporte is done as a company, but they are for now staying in business to sort out the rest of the funds ?Lets assume that is correct until proven wrong?.
So far they have been good under the circumstances to get people their money, if you don?t think so then you should have a chat with the people in this industry that has been through this on 3 other occasions and lost a LOT more with ZERO ability to even contact the money operation.

As for ST K in Belize
Again, IF they get the cards activated this or next week, which i am almost positive that they will.
They have no reason not to as the amount they :2 cents:have from Epass is nothing at all compared to what other Adult companies have with them.

Where does that leave Chris Mallic?s Rep?
If the above is the outcome ill have to say that i will bank with Chris any damn time as honestly the above would be almost unheard off in our industry.
Usually when things start to go south people pull out and RUN.....

Are you fucking kidding me? No ach deposits for two days and locked out of epassporte? What kind of clue do you need man? seriously.

SallyRand 10-06-2010 11:07 AM

"Does Chris Mallic really deserve all the flack and personal attacks?"

Yes and then some. He knew the problems with lack of verification, which problems lie at the core of the ePass debacle and did nothing to abate them. He was playing fast and loose with US law, knowing full well of the then current verification requirements as well as the August 22 changes to both credit card and ATM rules. He did nothing to help or require ePass users to comply with USA laws and because both ePass and the SK bank were doing biz in the USA, both were subject to those laws, regardless of what many might think. In fact, Mallick subtly encourged many to join ePass by giving compliance a nod and a wink; more or less one of those "Nudge!, Nudge!, Know what I mean?, Know what I mean?" things.

I am quite certain that the SK bank found itself in violation of USA reporting requirements so because of the US so-called "long arm" statutes, therefore chose to ask VISA to punch ePass's ticket. Remember the two guys who headed up Netteller were prosecuted under those same "long arm" statutes a while back! They eventually let them go but all USA Netteller account holders, including Yours Truly, had their Nettelller accounts closed but we all got our money back in a timely manner.

This was a train wreck which could have been avoided had ePass management been proactive and demonstrated responsiblity and proper customer care in the first place.

Shedevils 10-06-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targetpro (Post 17577779)
I think so. He took a big chance making a movie glorifying his life, at a time where his practices are still considered quasi-legal at best. As far as I know he hasn't reached any settlement to date with the DOJ regarding his US facing poker processing? Middle Men was a slap in the face to alot of decision makers. So to answer your question, yes, I believe he deserves everything that he's getting right now.

It does seem the timing of the movie was inappropriate, and it is entirely possible that someone, somewhere in a position of power has a hard on for him and was offended by it.

And in any event, if you have a good thing going you should keep your mouth shut.

RaiderCash_Dominik 10-06-2010 11:12 AM

One more broke ass kisser.
Funny how both of those have zero interest in this.

Loch 10-06-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik (Post 17578827)
One more broke ass kisser.
Funny how both of those have zero interest in this.

Im not kissing anyones ass if that is what you are implying.
Trust me i am not without loss in this, even if everyone gets paid....just the fact that the industry is in flux payment wise will make me loose in the 5 figures.

I am however asking questions people do not want to have asked it seems :winkwink:

TrainWreckContent 10-06-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 17578948)
Im not kissing anyones ass if that is what you are implying.
Trust me i am not without loss in this, even if everyone gets paid....just the fact that the industry is in flux payment wise will make me loose in the 5 figures.

I am however asking questions people do not want to have asked it seems :winkwink:

its definately a sensative issue with people as some lost thier rent money or bill money so its hard for them not to have hard feelings towards the situation.....i certainly lost some money no were near what others lost but i kind of agree epass kept everyone in the dark and though micheal tried his best he never really told us anything useful ...just my 2 cents

Seth Manson 10-06-2010 01:25 PM

Personaly, I'm surprised that he hasnt been planted in a field somewhere by now. I dont have any of my money tied up with this shit but I'm just sayin accidents happen.

wyldblyss 10-06-2010 01:32 PM

Being a businessman I assume that when you do work for someone, or provide a service you expect to be paid. If someone did not pay you, refused to tell you why, refused to talk to you and give you any information and you waited days, then weeks and you still don't have your money. If you then got your money would it be ok?

If someone asked you what kind of man he was would you say "Stand up guy, always pays his bills on time and is great at communication?"

As I have said before. Bad shit happens and the measure of a man is how deep in his own shit he will wade to rescue those he dropped into his shit storm.

A stand up guy would have been on these boards giving us honest updates. Chris didn't and went to Cabo instead. He left behind some people that found it hard to eat, and in one case, Chris' actions put a guy over the edge and he killed himself.

Imagine that, a guy KILLED himself and epassporte was part of the reason why. Yet you ask if Chris deserves what he is getting if we all get our money.'
The answer is YES YES YES.....because at least one person won't be getting his money...and that is the guy who killed himself and left his family behind to mourn their loss.

epitome 10-06-2010 01:39 PM

If he had been a man and addressed his customers directly on this board -- like he did when he wanted us to go see his movie -- and he was truthful, even if it was "I don't know, and this is why, or this is what could have gone wrong, then no.

If he had followed that up with honoring wire requests ...

If he hadn't been in Cabo when he said he was working on the issue ...

Then no.

It is the way he handles it that stinks. He has no character and now no creditability.

I'd bet that even many of his harshest critics (me included) would not have been as vocal had he handled the situation professionally.

rewn 10-06-2010 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17577896)
the guy is a piece of human shit no way around it.

........ dog


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