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Ethersync 10-22-2010 04:06 PM

Wikileaks leaks 400,000 military documents today. Largest in history!
 
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At 5pm EST Friday 22nd October 2010 WikiLeaks released the largest classified military leak in history. The 391,832 reports ('The Iraq War Logs'), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a 'SIGACT' or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.

The reports detail 109,032 deaths in Iraq, comprised of 66,081 'civilians'; 23,984 'enemy' (those labeled as insurgents); 15,196 'host nation' (Iraqi government forces) and 3,771 'friendly' (coalition forces). The majority of the deaths (66,000, over 60%) of these are civilian deaths.That is 31 civilians dying every day during the six year period. For comparison, the 'Afghan War Diaries', previously released by WikiLeaks, covering the same period, detail the deaths of some 20,000 people. Iraq during the same period, was five times as lethal with equivallent population size.
http://warlogs.wikileaks.org/


12clicks 10-22-2010 04:07 PM

I dont understand why the US hasn't simply killed this guy.

Oh right, obama.

Agent 488 10-22-2010 04:13 PM

http://sify.com/news/rape-probe-cont...wwahidcga.html

Rape probe continues against WikiLeaks founder

Ethersync 10-22-2010 04:13 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/war-logs.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...military-leaks

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...210771944.html

http://www.iraqwarlogs.com/

http://www.spiegel.de/

http://svt.se/2.22584/1.2204694/nya_...an_irak-kriget

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/...ens_id=1429641

minicivan 10-22-2010 04:21 PM

There is definitely much faster ways to commit suicide.

Phillipmcd1 10-22-2010 06:21 PM

I don't understand how this guy hasn't gotten into a fatal car accident yet

Ethersync 10-22-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17633123)
I dont understand why the US hasn't simply killed this guy.

Too high profile and the idea that assassination of character is better than assassination of person.

Alprazolam 10-22-2010 06:31 PM

this guy is gonna go missing some day. he doesn't know who he's fucking with. sad but true.

Dcat 10-22-2010 06:35 PM

Geesus, 391,832 reports!

How am I ever going to read all that shit?

:upsidedow

Dcat 10-22-2010 06:59 PM

I guess the reports haven't been released yet. Should be tomorrow at some point.

Ethersync 10-22-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 17633480)
I guess the reports haven't been released yet. Should be tomorrow at some point.

They are up now: http://warlogs.wikileaks.org/

Direct: http://warlogs.owni.fr/

The other URL is overloaded now. Page won't load.

xholly 10-22-2010 07:07 PM

Fuck yeah, Wikileaks is awesome!

The guys a hero.

DaddyHalbucks 10-22-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17633488)
Fuck yeah, Wikileaks is awesome!

The guys a hero.

Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

:disgust

xholly 10-22-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17633513)
Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

:disgust

How many Iraqi men, women and children have already died as a result of the US invading their country?

A life is a life to me. But I gather you think a US soldiers life is worth more than any worthless arab

epitome 10-22-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17633513)
Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

:disgust

Everything I've looked at thus far has been heavily censored.

Contrary to popular belief, Wikileaks does not want to get people killed.

moeloubani 10-22-2010 07:36 PM

Haha. Hahaha.

Carmen80 10-22-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17633513)
Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

:disgust

I hope as many as possible.

FUCK USA!

adult-help 10-22-2010 07:42 PM

a true hero! also did the right thing exposing himself, it will be more difficult now to just remove him...

adult-help 10-22-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17633513)
Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

:disgust


who cares? if they die it will be because of people who started this war...the truth must be told...they might be collateral damage ,what can you do, no one cares when iraqis dies as a collateral damage...

also dont forget - it is someone within army itself who is fed up with this shit and supplied the documents...and not some regular grunt...wikiekas, they are just messenger....what happened to dont kill the messenger?

Sausage 10-22-2010 07:46 PM

This is a hard one.

On one hand it possibly puts troops at risk. On the other hand there has been some pretty fucked up shit done over there, and its always good to have people/countries held accountable for their actions.

pornmasta 10-22-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmen80 (Post 17633561)
I hope as many as possible.

FUCK USA!

:( 8 char

scuba steve 10-22-2010 08:42 PM

How does this guy get al these docs?

topsiteking 10-22-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17633538)
How many Iraqi men, women and children have already died as a result of the US invading their country?

A life is a life to me. But I gather you think a US soldiers life is worth more than any worthless Arab

:2 cents:

CPimp 10-22-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmen80 (Post 17633561)
I hope as many as possible.

FUCK USA!

Wow... really mature.

DWB 10-22-2010 09:07 PM

This guy has huge fucking balls and incredible contacts.

directfiesta 10-22-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17633513)
Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

:disgust

Stop repeating the same shit over and over ... close Fox News ...

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The whistleblowing activists say they have deleted all names from the documents that might result in reprisals. They were accused by the US military of possibly having "blood on their hands" over the previous Afghan release by redacting too few names. But the military recently conceded that no harm had been identified.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...military-leaks

Now, tell me how much blood the US have on THEIR hands ?????

directfiesta 10-22-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tube2k (Post 17633692)
Wow... really mature.

same as : Bomb the shit out of them and turn it in a parking lot or a sheet of glass ...


Never saw you complaion about that ...

cykoe6 10-22-2010 09:21 PM

The release of these classified military documents is a real disgrace for the US. It shows that we are growing too weak to defend ourselves from our enemies. That cocksucker Julian Assange should be in a bodybag by now. :disgust

Ron Bennett 10-22-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17633558)
Everything I've looked at thus far has been heavily censored.

Contrary to popular belief, Wikileaks does not want to get people killed.

On a related note, for all we know, much of the "leaked" documents may have been intentionally provided to Wikileaks by the U.S. government itself.

There are differing degrees of document classification - are any of the documents "leaked" of the highest classifications of "secret" and "top secret"? I'd wager not...

Anyways, do the documents truly contain much significant information that isn't already known / findable elsewhere?

Don't get me wrong, it's great there are sites like Wikileaks, but am skeptical of the information they're posting / motivations of those who "leak" the info to Wikileaks.

For example, according to a news media report, one of the documents contains info about the "hikers" being held in Iran when captured were on the Iraq side of the border ... ok, but that was already widely publicized in the media months ago ... what wasn't mentioned is why the "hikers" were there to begin with ... are they spies? Or what?

Point is if many of the other documents are like that one, simply mentioning details that were already widely known, then there's likely little to no real new information to be discovered.

Ron

baddog 10-22-2010 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 17633426)
Geesus, 391,832 reports!

How am I ever going to read all that shit?

:upsidedow

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 17633480)
I guess the reports haven't been released yet. Should be tomorrow at some point.

You were going to try anyway. :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Carmen80 (Post 17633561)
I hope as many as possible.

FUCK USA!

What is it you do?

jigg 10-22-2010 10:47 PM

Wikileaks contacted the Pentagone to apparently redact details and names that can expose intelligence/people on the ground

On the flip side we learn of downright disturbing stuff the mainstream media has made no mention of, no surprise

Deej 10-22-2010 10:56 PM

Someones in trouble...

Dirty Dane 10-23-2010 01:00 AM

Over 109.000 killed. 24.000 "enemies", 15.000 iraqi soldiers, 3.771 coalition, over 66.000 civilians. That's over 60 percent civilian deaths. Bloodbath :Oh crap

MovieMaster 10-23-2010 01:05 AM

Guy needs to be put down...

seeandsee 10-23-2010 01:10 AM

so they want to shut him up with rape charges, jesus

xholly 10-23-2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17633961)
Over 109.000 killed. 24.000 "enemies", 15.000 iraqi soldiers, 3.771 coalition, over 66.000 civilians. That's over 60 percent civilian deaths. Bloodbath :Oh crap

Yeah but at least they found the weapons of mass destruction... Oh wait...

TeenCat 10-23-2010 01:29 AM

thats what i have been waiting for, now the world is mine ... :costumed13 btw not sure how much secure and peace helping publishing this info was ... :helpme

Maxi 10-23-2010 01:36 AM

HAHA gota love the nerve on these cunts, accusing Wikileaks of having blood on it's hands for releasing documents detailing their murder of 60 fucking thousand civillians.

If Wikileaks have blood on their hands they are fucking drowning in the blood of Iraqi civilians.

And so fucking what if Americans die as a result of this? 60k Civilians to 3k Americans? The scores need to be a little more balanced, you can't just go into a fucking country on a false pretense, slaughter their fucking population for a decade and get off scott free.

I DEMAND JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!

MPGdevil 10-23-2010 02:13 AM

Every civilian kill is one too many. There are a lot of things i don't condone by the war, and things that could have been done better. But let's also put things into perspective.

So 66.000 killed civilians during the Iraq War.
How many civilians got killed and tortured by Saddam Hussein?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_r...ein's_Iraq

I hear a lot of critique about the war but what did all the same people do in the period 1979-2003 to help and protect the Iraqi people? And how much did they accomplish?
Weapons of mass destruction or not.. a ruthless dictator is gone which is good.
The sad thing is these people with their religion still live in The Middle Ages and were not prepared for a democracy. Hopefully they will one day experience it though.

Maxi 10-23-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 17634016)
Every civilian kill is one too many. There are a lot of things i don't condone by the war, and things that could have been done better. But let's also put things into perspective.

So 66.000 killed civilians during the Iraq War.
How many civilians got killed and tortured by Saddam Hussein?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_r...ein's_Iraq

I hear a lot of critique about the war but what did all the same people do in the period 1979-2003 to help and protect the Iraqi people? And how much did they accomplish?
Weapons of mass destruction or not.. a ruthless dictator is gone which is good.

I might have agreed with you if the U.S had always been an enemy of Saddam and cared about the people of Iraq BUT..

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BUzaXv9uIG...eld-saddam.jpg

You have no leg to stand on.

Davy 10-23-2010 03:08 AM

I find those war documents released by wikileaks boring.
War is hell and there will always be going on some weird things.
The real question (with obvious answer) is what the fuck the US are doing in other countries and with what justification they do it.

Buzz 10-23-2010 03:13 AM

some day the guy will either be very rich or very dead. And I guess that happens pretty soon.

Dirty Dane 10-23-2010 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 17634016)
But let's also put things into perspective

So 66.000 killed civilians during the Iraq War.
How many civilians got killed and tortured by Saddam Hussein?

It's not a competition. Saddam Hussein got what he deserved but that's not an excuse for western soldiers to torture, murder and rape innocent women and children.

MPGdevil 10-23-2010 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi (Post 17634056)
I might have agreed with you if the U.S had always been an enemy of Saddam and cared about the people of Iraq BUT..

No doubt he should have been removed many years ago. Unfortunate they didn't do it already in the Gulf War 1990/91.
I agree it is a disgrace that not only the US but also the rest of the world have been as passive as they have towards regimes like Saddam's. Different things were tried but let's face it, without the Iraq War he would still be there with even more blood on his hands.

It can be debated what is best, but in my opinion late is better than never.
The number of civilian casualties seems pretty high though when thinking of today's high precision weapons.

u-Bob 10-23-2010 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 17633426)
Geesus, 391,832 reports!

How am I ever going to read all that shit?

:upsidedow


wget -r and read it later :)

MPGdevil 10-23-2010 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17634112)
It's not a competition. Saddam Hussein got what he deserved but that's not an excuse for western soldiers to torture, murder and rape innocent women and children.

Of course it is no competition, I just put things into perspective.
It is ok to be against the war, I personally don't see Saddam still being the leader in Iraq today is a better alternative though.

The soldiers you mention are a disgrace to their uniform and should be prosecuted for their actions. I have no problem with documents revealing that being published.

Ethersync 10-23-2010 11:12 AM

I wonder when they will release the other videos they have.

Slutboat 10-23-2010 11:16 AM

the War Crimes of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney need to be exposed.

CHENEY AND BUSH TO HAGUE!

RaiderCash_Dominik 10-23-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 17633736)
The release of these classified military documents is a real disgrace for the US. It shows that we are growing too weak to defend ourselves from our enemies. That cocksucker Julian Assange should be in a bodybag by now. :disgust

WTF dude? We didn't release anything. Press did. Now you're going to say that freedom of speach should go away? Go leave in fucking Ukraine than.

scottybuzz 10-23-2010 01:36 PM

Strange you raise a good point against daddyhalbucks and he never replies like a pussy


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