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directfiesta 11-04-2010 08:38 AM

Sen. McConnell to Obama: Top goal is to make you a 1-term president
 
... yep, TOP goal...

No to make the gov smaller, not to create jobs, not to reduce taxes .. but :

Quote:

to make you a 1-term president
didn't take long for the masks to fall ...

Will be entertaining to watch ...

Phoenix 11-04-2010 08:39 AM

seems like they basically admit to sabotage

CaptainHowdy 11-04-2010 08:40 AM

A "coup d'etat" would be much more fun...

Sly 11-04-2010 08:40 AM

When we talk of beating down enemies, is it really surprising?

All of it, from both sides, is not leadership material. Very unfortunate. Business leaders would never get away with the garbage these guys spew.

dodger21 11-04-2010 08:41 AM

lol with the President having veto power, the republicans are not going to be able to do anything for the next two years. Neither is obama. This is going to be one of the ways to get something done, to get Chocolate Jesus out of office.

dyna mo 11-04-2010 08:44 AM

i get what he's saying- basically he's saying the majority of americans do not want obama care, so to repeal obamacare and move forward with the republican's replacement, assuming that's what the people want (whatever that is, yet tbd), they need a white house that won't veto.

it would make more sense if the republicans have a health care plan.

Tom_PM 11-04-2010 08:44 AM

They had the plan in place before he was even elected. This surely, surely, surely is NOT a surprise to anyone? Come on, please. :)

ThunderBalls 11-04-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17671170)
it would make more sense if the republicans have a health care plan.


The republicans health care plan is don't get sick.

Tom_PM 11-04-2010 08:48 AM

In the exit polls, 48% want it repealed, 31% want to expand it and 16% want to leave it as it is. Thats 47% who want to expand or leave it, and 48% who want it repealed.

dyna mo 11-04-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17671181)
The republicans health care plan is don't get sick.

those fuckers! that's my plan, they stole my plan!

DaddyHalbucks 11-04-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17671140)
... yep, TOP goal...

No to make the gov smaller, not to create jobs, not to reduce taxes .. but :

If you make Obama a 1 term President, all that other stuff will happen naturally.

Capitalism inherently works. Socialism doesn't.

Sly 11-04-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17671190)
In the exit polls, 48% want it repealed, 31% want to expand it and 16% want to leave it as it is. Thats 47% who want to expand or leave it, and 48% who want it repealed.

That math was probably always there. I don't see it being repealed. As difficult as it is "getting things done", it's much tougher taking that away. That was most likely always the plan, every politician knows how that works.

I found this passage just now and thought it was pretty funny.

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Obama also acknowledged the disappointment of his reform-minded 2008 supporters, blaming part of the Democratic debacle on his inability to challenge business-as-usual in Washington, especially the use of earmarks and the backroom deals cut to pass health care reform.

“We were in such a hurry to get things done, we didn’t change how things were done,” conceded Obama, The president didn’t push back when a reporter suggested the results represented a rejection of his presidency or his agenda.

Tom_PM 11-04-2010 09:12 AM

Obama also has already (once again foolishly) told them he's willing to work with whatever plans they bring him, as long as they work to help the middle class. He didnt learn from Chuck Grassley like the rest of the world did.

He walks tall, but has no stick.

ThunderBalls 11-04-2010 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17671232)
If you make Obama a 1 term President, all that other stuff will happen naturally.

Capitalism inherently works. Socialism doesn't.


Obviously you havent a clue what socialism is but regardless I hope you're sending back that $275 social security check you get every month. Oh thats right, you donated it to Sharon Angle.

spazlabz 11-04-2010 09:26 AM

ok I am not that surprised that Mitch would strategize towards that goal, I am a bit surprised that he would say that to where it would get reported especially so soon after the elections during a lame duck session.... what is the source of that quote please

The Demon 11-04-2010 09:32 AM

The source of the quote is Directfiesta. That should tell you enough.

cwd 11-04-2010 09:32 AM

Two Years Of Nothing!

woo-hoo:Oh crap

dyna mo 11-04-2010 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17671357)
ok I am not that surprised that Mitch would strategize towards that goal, I am a bit surprised that he would say that to where it would get reported especially so soon after the elections during a lame duck session.... what is the source of that quote please

it's actually week old news, he said it before the elections
http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...term-president

cwd 11-04-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17671383)
The source of the quote is Directfiesta. That should tell you enough.

you prefer CNN?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-obama-attack/

cwd 11-04-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17671383)
The source of the quote is Directfiesta. That should tell you enough.

or perhaps FoxNews

McConnell, who is speaking at the Heritage Foundation on Thursday, caught flak for saying after Tuesday's election that his primary objective now is to convince voters to remove Obama from office in 2012.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...mains-defiant/

minicivan 11-04-2010 09:37 AM

Haha... uhm, hate to burst a random Canadians bubble, but the goal of both parties is to take control of the white house in the next election.

Vendzilla 11-04-2010 09:42 AM

What Obama didn't get is he was leader of the nation, he acted like the leader of the democrat party. Now he will have to do like Clinton did in 94 and actually work with the GOP or he will be a one term president.
Either start over and replace it or gut it and make it work, but I think any healthcare law where the people that wrote it are exempt from it along with 30 other corporations and unions is not going to work in anyone's eyes.
You can spin this anyway you want, but the people are in charge and showed Barry with their votes. he can either change from the arrogant asshole he has been into a working politician that has the power to work with the Democrats and the GOP and make this a better country.
Also, I'll bet the unemployment numbers will start dropping, because now the business people of this country will feel better about investment, they will not have to worry about what next fuck up the Barry in charge will be trying to shove down their throats.
I still believe that Barry pushing healthcare is the reason that the unemployment numbers stayed as bad as they have been, but hey I could be wrong. Give it till April, 3 months after the GOP congressmen take their offices and you'll see the unemployment take a big drop, couple percentage points at least.


I saw on the news that the incoming house gets to tweak the district lines because of the census, that will help in elections in the future, giving them even more power

spazlabz 11-04-2010 09:44 AM

thanks to everyone for the sources. I would be interested to see what he is saying now about cooperation with the white house but to be honest, I am taking a very measured 'head in the sand' approach and it is working out nicely :)

BFT3K 11-04-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17671181)
The republicans health care plan is don't get sick.



https://youtube.com/watch?v=-usmvYOPfco

spazlabz 11-04-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17671449)

and he lost which sucks, I liked that guy but having a personality and an individual identity on the house is a no-no

Paul Markham 11-04-2010 09:49 AM

Two years of nothing are coming. And in that time a year of electioneering.

Unless the US economy gets better the electorate could be looking for a scape goat. Will it be Obama or the Republicans?

Depends who comes off looking the culprit to the middle ground. The extremes never decide elections, it's the floating voter who does. Mostly Middle of the Middle Class. Will they see Obama or the Republicans as the culprits for their plight?

Dangerous game for the Republicans to be playing.

BFT3K 11-04-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17671461)
and he lost which sucks, I liked that guy but having a personality and an individual identity on the house is a no-no

He was not beholden to the corporate masters that own Washington.

Sly 11-04-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17671461)
and he lost which sucks, I liked that guy but having a personality and an individual identity on the house is a no-no

He was a pompous dick that loved the media attention so much he took every opportunity to soak up TV time, which meant demonizing somebody or going off on a rant about the evils of everyone else. Don't worry, I'm sure his 2 year stint will pad his law firms pockets just fine.

Tom_PM 11-04-2010 09:57 AM

It's naive to think Obama didnt TRY to work with the GOP. The "wake up" moment here for citizens is that the GOP doesnt INTEND to actually try to work with the president.

Obama's wake up moment is to finally stop being so hopeful that eventually the republicans will actually decide to do anything. It's 100% political tactics and strategy to block 100% of everything Obama and the democrats want. Even if it means going on tv and saying with a straight face that unemployment benefits only encourage unemployment.

Barefootsies 11-04-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dodger21 (Post 17671157)
This is going to be one of the ways to get something done, to get Chocolate Jesus out of office.


Paul Markham 11-04-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17671449)

Good health care is proven to prevent people from getting sick. It's ignoring the problem in the beginning that leads to bigger problems.

I ignored the growth on my neck and sore throat. Then found I was a level 4 cancer sufferer. And I live in a country of free health care, no excuses except I was stupid. What happens when the excuse is "I can't afford to get a good check up"? Be it on a health care plan or not.

It's cheaper to get people treated early.

Sly 11-04-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17671471)
He was not beholden to the corporate masters that own Washington.

LOL. He was one of the wealthiest members of Congress, founded a successful public company along with a successful law firm, and has been involved with politics his whole life and Washington for many years. The guy is successful at what he sets out to do, no doubt about that.

cykoe6 11-04-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17671140)
... yep, TOP goal...

No to make the gov smaller, not to create jobs, not to reduce taxes .. but :

Sen. McConnell to Obama: Top goal is to make you a 1-term president

There are many of us who share this goal to make Obama a one term President. We voted in pretty large numbers on Tuesday. :winkwink:

Tom_PM 11-04-2010 10:02 AM

We should hire carl paladino to bash some heads with his orange baseball bat.

He'll take you out! How? Just watch!

spazlabz 11-04-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17671495)
He was a pompous dick that loved the media attention so much he took every opportunity to soak up TV time, which meant demonizing somebody or going off on a rant about the evils of everyone else.

yeah he was bad, nothing like every damn republican has been for the last 2 years

dyna mo 11-04-2010 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17671519)
Good health care is proven to prevent people from getting sick. It's ignoring the problem in the beginning that leads to bigger problems.

I ignored the growth on my neck and sore throat. Then found I was a level 4 cancer sufferer. And I live in a country of free health care, no excuses except I was stupid. What happens when the excuse is "I can't afford to get a good check up"? Be it on a health care plan or not.

It's cheaper to get people treated early.

actually, it's preventative health care that prevents people from getting sick, it's also MUCH cheaper.

Sly 11-04-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17671549)
yeah he was bad, nothing like every damn republican has been for the last 2 years

There are many total twat Republicans. There are many total twat Democrats. There are a few good Republicans. There are a few good Democrats.

Then there are guys like Alan Grayson.

Everything isn't a R/D battle. The guy was out there. And I'm sure that has contributed to both his success and his recent failure.

LAJ 11-04-2010 10:48 AM

How patriotic!

cwd 11-04-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 17671525)
There are many of us who share this goal to make Obama a one term President. We voted in pretty large numbers on Tuesday. :winkwink:


I'm always surprised at how few people actually vote in the US. The last time more than 40% of voting age people voted (during a non-Presidential year) was 1970.

Lazy ass people...

dyna mo 11-04-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cwd (Post 17671763)
I'm always surprised at how few people actually vote in the US. The last time more than 40% of voting age people voted (during a non-Presidential year) was 1970.

Lazy ass people...

it's not laziness at all, check the # of voters for american idol and dancing with the stars.

amateurbfs 11-04-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17671513)

Thanks for your wisdom, chubs.:thumbsup

Slutboat 11-04-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17671150)
seems like they basically admit to sabotage

RIGHT - the Republiscams will continue to SABOTAGE this nation for the next 2 years - just as they have for the last 2 years, for POLITICAL GAIN.

pornguy 11-04-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17671232)
If you make Obama a 1 term President, all that other stuff will happen naturally.

Capitalism inherently works. Socialism doesn't.

Just have to stop the Gubment from taking all the Capital.

Vendzilla 11-04-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17671170)
i get what he's saying- basically he's saying the majority of americans do not want obama care, so to repeal obamacare and move forward with the republican's replacement, assuming that's what the people want (whatever that is, yet tbd), they need a white house that won't veto.

it would make more sense if the republicans have a health care plan.

They will just keep sending the bill to the whitehouse, Obama keeps vetoing it and Barry will look like the bad guy, The incoming congressmen ran on it, they will push it, thats what the people want

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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17671801)
RIGHT - the Republiscams will continue to SABOTAGE this nation for the next 2 years - just as they have for the last 2 years, for POLITICAL GAIN.

So you're blaming the GOP that hasn't been in power in the house or senate for 4 years for the 9.8% unemployment and the 1.3 trillion budget deficit?

BTW, nice work on the fonts, did it take you long to figure that out?

Tom_PM 11-04-2010 11:39 AM

Once again, exit polls show 48% want repeal, 47% want to expand or keep health care reform the same.

Pretending this is some form of mandate will bite the GOP in the ass in 2012.

Vendzilla 11-04-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17671849)
Once again, exit polls show 48% want repeal, 47% want to expand or keep health care reform the same.

Pretending this is some form of mandate will bite the GOP in the ass in 2012.

depends on the polls you read
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...in_t he_house

Rasmussen Reports telephone exit polling found that 59% of those who voted on Election Day favor repeal of that law, including 48% who Strongly Favor it. This echoes what we have found in surveys every week since March.

sologirlcontent 11-04-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17671232)
If you make Obama a 1 term President, all that other stuff will happen naturally.

Capitalism inherently works. Socialism doesn't.

just like it happened with 8 years of BUSH

IllTestYourGirls 11-04-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17671878)
depends on the polls you read
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...in_t he_house

Rasmussen Reports telephone exit polling found that 59% of those who voted on Election Day favor repeal of that law, including 48% who Strongly Favor it. This echoes what we have found in surveys every week since March.

Dont let facts get in the way of made up numbers :1orglaugh

DateDoc 11-04-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17671170)
i get what he's saying- basically he's saying the majority of americans do not want obama care, so to repeal obamacare and move forward with the republican's replacement, assuming that's what the people want (whatever that is, yet tbd), they need a white house that won't veto.

it would make more sense if the republicans have a health care plan.

Exactly. Just dumping Obamacare without a working solution ready to go is going to lead to the Republicans being voted out in 2012.

Vendzilla 11-04-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17671972)
Exactly. Just dumping Obamacare without a working solution ready to go is going to lead to the Republicans being voted out in 2012.

Here's what John Boehner wanted in the past

http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare
■Number one: let families and businesses buy health insurance across state lines.
■Number two: allow individuals, small businesses, and trade associations to pool together and acquire health insurance at lower prices, the same way large corporations and labor unions do.
■Number three: give states the tools to create their own innovative reforms that lower health care costs.
■Number four: end junk lawsuits that contribute to higher health care costs by increasing the number of tests and procedures that physicians sometimes order not because they think it's good medicine, but because they are afraid of being sued.


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