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FreeHugeMovies 11-04-2010 04:58 PM

Multiple Small Virtual Accounts For Blogs
 
Which hosts do you recommend for this need? It's virtual accounts for wordpress blogs, so I don't need tons of BW.

I want to create about 30 different blogs scatted across diff IP ranges etc etc.

bloggerz 11-04-2010 05:05 PM

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combson 11-04-2010 05:10 PM

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XSV 11-04-2010 05:12 PM

http://www.amerinoc.com/hosting.php shared plans / 1 IP per account

http://www.amerinoc.com/reseller.php / At least 2 IP's included, ability to add as many as you want.

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docputer 11-04-2010 05:14 PM

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baddog 11-04-2010 05:14 PM

www.gotwebhost.com specializes in providing multiple IPs over multiple C's, with both dedicated IP and shared IP options available.

Klen 11-04-2010 05:16 PM

I currently use amerinoc and intovps for my seo experiments.

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stocktrader23 11-04-2010 05:20 PM

Has anyone ever actually seen a benefit from multiple IP's? I have never had any problem ranking blogs running on the same IP when optimized correctly to begin with. Google is not stupid, they already know about every link trade system you have in place and are aware enough about spreading out your IP's to keep it in mind when tweaking their algo.

Agent 488 11-04-2010 05:20 PM

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baddog 11-04-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17673393)
Has anyone ever actually seen a benefit from multiple IP's? I have never had any problem ranking blogs running on the same IP when optimized correctly to begin with. Google is not stupid, they already know about every link trade system you have in place and are aware enough about spreading out your IP's to keep it in mind when tweaking their algo.

Not doubting you for a moment, but a couple of questions.

When you say you have had no problem ranking, what position would you consider to be satisfactory? Are the domains sharing the IP all the same theme, as in the same niche? Do you interlink them?

You also mentioned "when optimized correctly." Do you think your methods are practiced by the average webmaster? Have you ever tested to see what happens if you did put a site on a dedicated IP?

Machete_ 11-04-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17673393)
I have never had any problem ranking blogs running on the same IP

Stop trolling. You don't have any ranking blogs.

Denny 11-04-2010 05:49 PM

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stocktrader23 11-04-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17673422)
Not doubting you for a moment, but a couple of questions.

When you say you have had no problem ranking, what position would you consider to be satisfactory? Are the domains sharing the IP all the same theme, as in the same niche? Do you interlink them?

You also mentioned "when optimized correctly." Do you think your methods are practiced by the average webmaster? Have you ever tested to see what happens if you did put a site on a dedicated IP?

I'm skeptical about multiple IP's helping but I'm not foolish enough to claim for sure they don't. I was just wondering if anyone has tested this in any meaningful way so that I could look into it more.

I don't chase single word phrases and when I put a blog up it is with the intention to rank #1 for a specific phrase so that is what I consider satisfactory. I share the same everything because I'm extremely lazy, lol. Interlinking is done to kick them off but only to extremely relevant stuff. I don't ever trade traffic outside of my own websites.

Most webmasters probably don't optimize like I do but nothing I do is a secret. Good titles, good single site interlinking (thanks wordpress), good header text and important words being highlighted with underline or bold.

I've had sites on dedicated IP's and that is what I mean when I say I see no noticeable difference. I usually rank #1 for my main keyphrase and variations and do well on my non main keyphrases regardless of which IP setup I use. I do try to get links into my site but I do it naturally by giving people something to talk about. This might be the key ingredient that a lot of people are missing but it's a non issue for what I'm doing.

stocktrader23 11-04-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17673434)
Stop trolling. You don't have any ranking blogs.

I've been blogging since before WordPress, consider myself pretty well versed on the subject and have ranked #1 for multiple competitive keywords in the mainstream arena on niches that had way more competition than anything adult.

Now who's trolling?

Agent 488 11-04-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17673451)
I've been blogging since before WordPress, consider myself pretty well versed on the subject and have ranked #1 for multiple competitive keywords in the mainstream arena on niches that had way more competition than anything adult.

Now who's trolling?

like what?

stocktrader23 11-04-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17673453)
like what?

You can go back to 2003 and you will not find any instance of me bragging about a website I own here. I share exactly what it is I do with only a select few people because it's how I pay the bills. I've been ripped off enough from adult webmasters to last me a lifetime and I'm not going to make their theft any easier.

Klen 11-04-2010 06:10 PM

Well,having multiple c classes is trend,therefore i just follow it :)

baddog 11-04-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17673434)
Stop trolling. You don't have any ranking blogs.

I suspect he does. He is a pretty knowledgeable guy.

S23: If #1 is the only acceptable position one must presume that every site on that shared IP goes for a different product.

If there is no interlinking and the sites are of different themes, there is no reason you can't share (within reason). However, it should be noted that I know of a couple large SEO firms that will not touch a site that is not on a dedicated IP.


Agent 488 11-04-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17673469)
You can go back to 2003 and you will not find any instance of me bragging about a website I own here. I share exactly what it is I do with only a select few people because it's how I pay the bills. I've been ripped off enough from adult webmasters to last me a lifetime and I'm not going to make their theft any easier.

not the sites - what terms you ranked for?

stocktrader23 11-04-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17673513)
I suspect he does. He is a pretty knowledgeable guy.

S23: If #1 is the only acceptable position one must presume that every site on that shared IP goes for a different product.

If there is no interlinking and the sites are of different themes, there is no reason you can't share (within reason). However, it should be noted that I know of a couple large SEO firms that will not touch a site that is not on a dedicated IP.

Yeah, I mean I've had a few sites that targeted multiple phrases over the years but most of the niches were always so small that it would be near impossible to not rank at the top. For everything else I figure $9 a year is a fair price to pay if it gets me long term traffic for my phrase. It's probably just my setup, I don't do the typical one big site with hundreds of important phrases that I'm trying to rank. I have before but nothing on WordPress which is my platform of choice now.

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17673516)
not the sites - what terms you ranked for?

If I give you the phrase I give you the site. :1orglaugh

jkthedesigner 11-04-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17673503)
Well,having multiple c classes is trend,therefore i just follow it :)

I understand what he is saying with the whole dedi IP hype but I'm not sure. If you owned a huge web hosting company, wouldn't you want to hype one of your products like C-class servers and Dedicated IP's? Lol I would.

d-null 11-04-2010 06:40 PM

to do it right, you are better off signing up with multiple hosting companies all over the place, using different whois, it is probably a waste of time to set up a network on multiple ip's at one host and using similar whois information :2 cents:

baddog 11-04-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17673557)
I understand what he is saying with the whole dedi IP hype but I'm not sure. If you owned a huge web hosting company, wouldn't you want to hype one of your products like C-class servers and Dedicated IP's? Lol I would.

Thank you for the compliment, but I would not really classify ourselves as huge, but I guess that is relative. To be honest, I don't need to hype the product. There are people that can use it and there are others that would have zero use for it. That is why we offer SEO and standard options.

I was merely having a conversation with someone that brought up the topic, I didn't. The OP happened to ask for what we provide. We did not create the market, the market created us.

jkthedesigner 11-04-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 17673587)
to do it right, you are better off signing up with multiple hosting companies all over the place, using different whois, it is probably a waste of time to set up a network on multiple ip's at one host and using similar whois information :2 cents:

Agreed. If you think google is too stupid not to be able to cross check an IP address of a site with whois info... then you have something else coming

baddog 11-04-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 17673587)
to do it right, you are better off signing up with multiple hosting companies all over the place, using different whois, it is probably a waste of time to set up a network on multiple ip's at one host and using similar whois information :2 cents:

Which is why we provide multiple nameservers for every dedicated C, as well as encourage the use of private nameservers. We also utilize multiple datacenters all over the country. Also, having multiple C's does not give you a license to kill. You still want to be smart and draw the attention that would result in them looking at your WHOIS info.

woj 11-04-2010 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17673513)
"About 3% of all web sites "own" a private IP number, with the remainder being on virtual, or name-based, servers. Although only 3% are dedicated IP's, we have seen that in many instances well over 90% of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. This was so strange that we have repeatedly validated these findings, and have found that switching a site from a virtual IP to a dedicated IP number alone has caused significant ranking increases. Of course, the web is so dynamic that this could be coincidence, but we do not think so"

That sounds like some cutting-edge research there... do you know when this breakthrough was published? :winkwink:

d-null 11-04-2010 06:51 PM

all you have to do is use some common sense, and think about it from google's point of view if they are investigating a network (or if one of your competitor's that is jealous of your serp position is looking for something to report)

google has access to all the tools we have, and then some, so unless you are spread out over completely different hosts and use completely different whois and nameservers it will be easy for them to connect all the parts of your "network", having different ips with the same host and same whois is a waste of energy if you think you are going to fool google

you have to make it look realistic like it is totally unrelated sites

18teens 11-04-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 17673330)
Which hosts do you recommend for this need? It's virtual accounts for wordpress blogs, so I don't need tons of BW.

I want to create about 30 different blogs scatted across diff IP ranges etc etc.

I highly recommend Amerinoc.

HomerSimpson 11-04-2010 07:54 PM

NakedHosting - Reseller accounts

TeenSluts 11-04-2010 08:12 PM

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DamianJ 11-05-2010 02:27 AM

Has anyone done any case studies showing that multiple IPs make any difference?

Not saying it doesn't, just never seen any proof.

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fris 11-05-2010 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17673393)
Has anyone ever actually seen a benefit from multiple IP's? I have never had any problem ranking blogs running on the same IP when optimized correctly to begin with. Google is not stupid, they already know about every link trade system you have in place and are aware enough about spreading out your IP's to keep it in mind when tweaking their algo.

their is no benefit to multiple ips as long as you are doing whitehat, if you are doing the evil cookie stuffing, and blackhat shit, then you need to seperate yourself from other sites so they dont get canned.

u-Bob 11-05-2010 06:27 AM

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fris 11-05-2010 06:28 AM

a lot of companies use the term "seo hosting" to try and take advantage of customers, and get more money out of them, when its not neccessary.

FreeHugeMovies 11-05-2010 07:01 AM

Maybe I need to ask some friends to host like 3-4 domains and I'll do the same on my server. This way it's zero expense to us.

Anyone up? These are mainstream servers only.

Klen 11-05-2010 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 17674609)
a lot of companies use the term "seo hosting" to try and take advantage of customers, and get more money out of them, when its not neccessary.

It's nothing spectacular ,average price is 1$ per ip,and even cheaper if you buy bulk,so i dont see problem with it.


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