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JustDaveXxx 11-06-2010 08:38 PM

I told you so!! Patient Zero was the only person in porn that tested positive for HIV....
 
Conclusion: Patient "Zeta" Acquired the HIV Virus Through Private, Personal Activity



From www.latimes.com - Officials at the San Fernando Valley clinic where a porn performer tested HIV-positive last month announced Friday that two rounds of tests showed no other adult film actors had contracted the virus.

The performer tested HIV-positive Oct. 9 at the Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation, or AIM, in Sherman Oaks. The clinic routinely tests performers working in the Valley's adult film industry for sexually transmitted diseases and maintains a database of their results.
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Once the new HIV case was detected, clinic officials created a quarantine list to test performers who had worked with the porn actor, referred to in Friday's announcement as "Patient Zeta."

The announcement said that AIM officials had completed testing of the patient's sex partners, "from both personal and professional life," and that all tested HIV-negative "on two occasions, using multiple testing methods."

"It has been established that Patient Zeta acquired the virus through private, personal activity and there was no transmission of the HIV virus from Patient Zeta to anyone else," according to the announcement.

Dr. Jonathan E. Fielding, Los Angeles County's public health director, said that AIM officials had not provided his office with the test results or protocols and that without that information, it was impossible to determine how Patient Zeta contracted the disease and whether all of those exposed had been tested.

"If in fact they have used the right tests and done everything they say they have done, it's good news for the people who were contacts, but it doesn't reduce the risks," he said. "To have somebody work in a situation where they are forced to do things that put others at risk for life-threatening diseases is very disturbing."

AIM officials have drawn criticism from AIDS activists and state officials who say the clinic has failed to promptly report HIV and other sexually transmitted maladies. In 2004, a male porn star, Darren James, contracted HIV and spread the virus to three female performers before it was detected. The outbreak shut down porn production for a month. Last year, a female performer who rarely worked tested HIV-positive, but no other cases were detected among performers.

In recent weeks, state workplace safety officials have been considering whether to mandate condom use and additional testing for porn performers.

AIM officials said the most recent testing "affirms the efficacy of AIM Healthcare Foundation's testing protocols, as voluntarily implemented by the adult entertainment industry," adding that "it is regrettable but inevitable that people continue to acquire the HIV virus in their personal life."

Clinic officials would not say how many people had been exposed or tested, according to their Santa Monica-based lawyer, Jeffrey J. Douglas. They reported the case to county public health officials late last month but have not released Patient Zeta's name, gender or other information. The Public Health Department has also refused to release that information, citing medical confidentiality.
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Several large porn industry companies suspended production after Patient Zeta's HIV test, but on Friday at least one had resumed filming and another planned to resume next week.

"We have resumed production at our studios, continuing to make sure every precaution is taken to protect everyone involved with the filming," said Michael H. Klein, president of LFP Inc., parent company of Hustler.

Vivid Entertainment plans to resume filming Monday, co-founder Steven Hirsch said.

"AIM acted properly; they notified us immediately and kept in contact with us throughout the process," Hirsch said. "We are comfortable with the testing procedures."


Good job AIM!!!:thumbsup

Phoenix 11-06-2010 08:40 PM

that has to be good news to all the people who had worked with him in the past

SallyRand 11-06-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17678730)
that has to be good news to all the people who had worked with him in the past

We'll see if it's good news six months down the road and then a year down the road and then for years after that as HIV/AIDS has an unknown gestation period and has been known to "hide" for years.

JustDaveXxx 11-06-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

There is no sneaking by. If the test isn't in the AIM data base, there is no shoot. Its that simple.



I am going to go out on a limb here with a prediction:


I think that nobody's tests will come up positive for HIV other than patient Zero and maybe his live in girlfriend.

Patient zero was not a very used, popular strait performer and it is less likely to contract HIV through strait non anal vaginal sex.



Furthermore if this guy is getting tooled in the ass from dudes, i would venture to say that the home sex life may have been lacking.




My final answer: Nobody but patient Zero will have contracted HIV.


And thats thanx to AIMs quick action.


Took a while to find it, but here it is. The actual thread was closed by moderators.



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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17678742)
We'll see if it's good news six months down the road and then a year down the road and then for years after that as HIV/AIDS has an unknown gestation period and has been known to "hide" for years.

Fortunately for us as an industry, you have no idea on what you are talking about.:thumbsup

WarChild 11-06-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17678750)
Took a while to find it, but here it is. The actual thread was closed by moderators.





Fortunately for us as an industry, you have no idea on what you are talking about.:thumbsup

That's his/her standard operating procedure. Just ignore it.

SallyRand 11-06-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17678766)
That's his/her standard operating procedure. Just ignore it.

http://www.aids.org/2010/08/hiv-viru...hide-in-brain/

"FRIDAY, Aug. 27 (HealthDay News) ? The brain can be a convenient hiding place for HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

That?s the finding of Swedish researchers who analyzed samples from about 70 HIV-infected patients who?d been taking anti-HIV drugs. The tests showed that about 10 percent of the patients ? a larger proportion than expected ? had traces of HIV in their spinal fluid but not in their blood.

Another study by the researchers found that 60 percent of 15 HIV-infected patients treated with medication for several years showed signs of inflammation in their spinal fluid, although the levels were lower than they were without treatment.

Anti-HIV drugs can prevent the virus from multiplying, but the virus also infects the brain and can cause damage if the infection isn?t treated, according to lead researcher Dr. Arvid Eden, a doctor and researcher at the Institute of Biomedicine at the Sahlgrenska Academy at the University of Gothenburg.

?Antiviral treatment in the brain is complicated by a number of factors, partly because it is surrounded by a protective barrier that affects how well medicines get in,? Eden said in a university news release. ?This means that the brain can act as a reservoir where treatment of the virus may be less effective.?

It is unclear whether small quantities of the virus in spinal fluid represent a risk for future complications, researchers said. Still, the findings indicate that ?we need to take into account the effects in the brain when developing new drugs and treatment strategies for HIV infection,? Eden added.

More information

The U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases has more about HIV/AIDS.

SOURCE: University of Gothenburg, Aug. 23, 2010, news release."

funkywizard 11-06-2010 09:37 PM

pretty scary, but hopefully they've got it under control.

WarChild 11-06-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17678789)
http://www.aids.org/2010/08/hiv-viru...hide-in-brain/

"FRIDAY, Aug. 27 (HealthDay News) — The brain can be a convenient hiding place for HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

That’s the finding of Swedish researchers who analyzed samples from about 70 HIV-infected patients who’d been taking anti-HIV drugs. The tests showed that about 10 percent of the patients — a larger proportion than expected — had traces of HIV in their spinal fluid but not in their blood.

Good thing that HIV tests are looking for antibodies, not HIV virus then, don't you think? Care to post any studies about antibody tests? This is clearly viral load results, and not the same thing. Antibodies don't hide in your brain.

From your own stupid link:

University of Maryland researcher Niel Constantine explains that "screening tests possess a high degree of sensitivity, whereas confirmatory assays have a high specificity. Tests with high sensitivity produce few false-negative results, whereas tests with high specificity produce few false-positive results." Because the screening tests can produce false positives, a second screening test is typically run on the same sample – in duplicate – with the confirmatory tests only run on samples that are repeatedly positive ("reactive" in lab parlance).

The combination of the two types of tests produces results that are "highly accurate," Constantine notes, but technical errors are possible, and biological factors can occasionally produce problems.

Thanks for playing

pOrRiDgE 11-07-2010 12:07 AM

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Grapesoda 11-07-2010 12:11 AM

Dave got the 24-120 f4 VR the other day.. GREAT content lens

WarChild 11-07-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pOrRiDgE (Post 17678956)

Ahahahahaha. This right here. :thumbsup

Porno Dan 11-07-2010 09:35 AM

I think some of us knew this way before this article came out

JustDaveXxx 11-07-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17678936)
Good thing that HIV tests are looking for antibodies, not HIV virus then, don't you think? Care to post any studies about antibody tests? This is clearly viral load results, and not the same thing. Antibodies don't hide in your brain.

Exactly. Thank you WarChild.



I would have thought that people making knowledge claims would at least, "look it up" on Google, "read it in its entirety," have an "understanding" of what they just read, before using it to back up something that they "think" they understand.


But obviously i am way wrong on this one. My bad.


Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17678962)
Dave got the 24-120 f4 VR the other day.. GREAT content lens

You always got the killer Nikon lenses. :thumbsup




Quote:

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 17679951)
I think some of us knew this way before this article came out


We knew this the day before the HIV story broke.


And you already had a detailed map of who worked with with who and what sex acts were performed.



If the FBI is monitoring this chat board, you need to hire Porno Dan as a criminal "sex/profiler". I bet he raises your case solve rate.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Alprazolam 11-07-2010 11:18 AM

media and those pro condom idiots oversensationalize every one of these situations.

_Richard_ 11-07-2010 11:27 AM

that dr. fielding guy sounds like a douche

munki 11-07-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17678962)
Dave got the 24-120 f4 VR the other day.. GREAT content lens

:hitit:hitit:hitit

Grapesoda 11-07-2010 12:10 PM

only peeps not really involved in the biz cry about aim and the testing routine. those of us who use aim on a daily basis have no issues at all... :thumbsup

Grapesoda 11-07-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by munki (Post 17680218)
:hitit:hitit:hitit

yeah just about the perfect short range content lends for sure

DWB 11-07-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17678728)
Conclusion: Patient "Zeta" Acquired the HIV Virus Through Private, Personal Activity

You guys dodged another bullet. Being that most porn people have a short attention span and selective memory, it's back to business as usual for now but sooner or later those switch hitters and bb hookers are going to cause some serious damage.

Not sure how you guys can weed them all out, but you need to or this will happen again and again.



Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17680236)
only peeps not really involved in the biz cry about aim and the testing routine. those of us who use aim on a daily basis have no issues at all... :thumbsup

AIM and porn valley is actually incredibly flawed. You don't have mandatory testing for Hepatitis B or C, both sexually transmitted and both can be lethal.

It is also not mandatory for Herpes testing. We all know why that is, but a new comer may not and is blindly led into the wide world of porn herpes. Also not mandatory for HPV, which can cause cancer.

IMHO if the industry really cared about their performers, there would be mandatory testing for EVERYTHING and then let the talent choose what groups they want to work in. Giving them a false sense of security with only an HIV test is reckless, considering Hepatitis can be just as deadly. Also, if a person didn't have herpes, it should be his/her choice to work with someone who does. Same with HPV.

But hey, anything for a buck and a good nights sleep. If AIM says you're safe, then you're safe.

Having said all that, what is in place is better than nothing. :2 cents:

munki 11-07-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17680240)
yeah just about the perfect short range content lends for sure

What's your filter setup on top of that if any?

Grapesoda 11-07-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by munki (Post 17680358)
What's your filter setup on top of that if any?

I don't use filters...I shoot pro-am so I use straight glass.. not even UV protection... even on the more than pro-am look, just straight glass... you can do a ton of stuff with just light to be honest

Grapesoda 11-07-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17680327)
Y





Having said all that, what is in place is better than nothing. :2 cents:

yes, it's best we have... and we sure don't need the gov involved... and gov interference will just push the biz underground...


now here's a real kernel of knowledge for you... HIV, chlamydia and Gonorrhea is $130 every 30 days... the 'talent' cry like babies about that 'small' expense... try and get them to pay more often for a more comprehensive test :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

and with the amount of sex taking place the amount of STD and severity of the STD's, it's fucking remarkable how low the instances are and how great of a job AIM really does.

and if you were here getting fucked and sucked on an almost daily basis instead of that third world sewer you insist in living in, you would not even mention that other shit and you know it.

like I said the people that are here and use AIM and damn happy with the results

word :pimp

seeandsee 11-07-2010 04:11 PM

only bad for "zero", but good for all others...

wargames 11-07-2010 04:16 PM

Hey Dave hit me up when you get a chance brother wanted to discuss something with you :thumbsup


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