I read the to "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and found it to be completely useless
 

The advice is completely out of date. The general principle is to just go overboard with the nice and polite routine, smile like an idiot and kiss peoples asses.

In this modern pessimistic society I submit that this kills your credibility and makes you look like a doormat.

Nobody respects a pushover or fence sitters but I don't think that's its premise.

i don't agree with all of the principles in that book either but it has more right to it than wrong...

You are useless, no book in the world will change that dj.

It is about establishing common ground which is still invaluable.

However, it was written many years ago for a society that no longer exists, doing business in ways that are no longer viable.

Funny. My dad lives by this book and I often tell him he's a just being a doormat.

But he's successful on more than one front, so what the fuck do I know. :1orglaugh

People these days see that as an opportunity to take advantage of you.

my grandmother had a copy, i read it young heheh

I think you may be right but I want to believe that it's just because we are in the wrong industry.

Im not DJ you imbecile. DJ is Banned For Life and Eric knows that i bought this nick - he personally changed it.
Time to replace that tinfoil hat of yours, it's not working.

If you can write im posting under various nicks so can i crybaby.

You been proven to post under multiple nicks.

MrFrisky
Jack Sparrow
Marco
Bro Media

who know which else

You should have read a how to book from 1736 instead of 1936.

The 2010 update of "how to win friends and influence people" is give them money.

Why did you start reading that in the first place??

I read this book and I found it useful. In the book, it says that you'll have to choose for yourself which things you like to do and which things you don't like to do. I think that different approaches have to be used to please different people. In some cases, different people could have wishes that are opposite and contradicting.

you need to have money and luck :)

I think its a great read. I actually recommended a friend read it last week

only person it helps is the person who gets the royalties. shit is crap.

Dead on.

Can you post proof of these acusations?
Or should i ask eric?

I'm worried how many people read this book.

dj forgot that he 1. doesn't have any friends, and 2. isn't influencing anyone online by trolling.

You should go fuck yourself.


Oh look, another idiot. I'm not DJ - you can verify this with Eric.

GFY broke ass troll says it doesn't work while one of the richest men in the world credits it as one of the pillars of his success.

Hmm...whom to believe?

I've never read it, but I knew a girl who read it in high school and she became like a stepford wife.

She started practicing talking to herself in the mirror, and tweaked nearly everything about how she presented herself. The more she "practiced" the more it became habbit.

Then one day it was like she crossed the line. She became like a newscaster, she never turned off, was always in this weird fake space.

I have no doubt that it has practical applications in the business world, but on a personal level she lost her sense of self and became like a weird robot version of the girl I knew. It might be due to the age at which she read it, maybe she was too impressionable and took the philosphies and practices too much to heart, but IMO she lost probably about as much as she gained from it.

lol, i think you make a good point. :thumbsup

Alot of it still works if your dealing face to face with people not on icq

A lot of the book is about being a fake person in order to get what you want. A good portion of the advice is good, but I think that the reader needs to find a balance between being their genuine selves and also enriching their lives by becoming a better person using the book as a loose guide.

I prefer 7 Habits, I think it's better advice "ethically" and "morally", but Dale Carnegie does have a lot of good advice and really does understand human behavior.

Dale Carnegie... committed suicide.

for serious.

Too much of anything....

I was just about to say the same thing. I read it a couple of years ago and although I wasn't able to find much practical use from it I did notice that 'fake person' concept was repeated a number of times. It's not unlike any other rapport building topic (which is what a lot of this book was about)... pretend to be similar to a person for just a short while to simulate a sense of familiarity and trust and then return to being yourself.

He died from hodgkins disease

A better book for today is the 48 Laws Of Power.

for serious, noes ways! omg!!!

Why should i want to verify it, you call me on having fakenicks and dont seem to find the need to verify that, why should i? DJ.


LOL!

Rest my case.