QuickBuck Zango Pop response...

[Quick Buck]

Anyway QuickBuck admitted to contacting this guy and giving him a heads up.

No. We did not.... what we said is that we notified him that his account had been banned.

Whenever we ban an account we send a corresponding e-mail saying "Your quickbuck account has been banned for xyz reason."

Will, I have no beef with you, but honestly, you didn't even give us an opportunity to respond to the issue before you began treating it like a witchhunt... had AFF acted even 1/1000th as responsibly as we did, you would have dropped your assault against them overnight.

AFF told you to fuck yourself didnt they? So why don't you keep bashing them?

Don't be a dick for no reason. We handled this as well as a sponsor could handle it.

This problem WILL come up again with other sponsors. If you're the self appointed zango watchdog then why don't you act responsibly.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Will76 = Fucking Idiot and nobody.

Since day 1.

Giving em a response only makes his cock harder he is also voted one of GFY's most useless idiots amoung the other idiots.

SO that makes em king idiot.

[will76]

Why do we owe you an apology? We didn't buy the traffic.

People apologize for things they do wrong, not for things the do right (like finding out about the issue and terminating the affiliate promptly).

How many joins per day have you stopped sending me exactly because of this? 0 or 0?

I don't mean this in pimpdog self destructive kind of way, but my only obligation is to my active affiliates.. not to random people who's sole claim to existence is their ability to post on gfy.

We take *great* care of our affiliate from huge payouts, custom sites, bonus points and more. If you are an actual affilliate, then you have likely already spoken to us personally and directly.

Forgive me for not being more humble and loving towards people who don't do business with me.

see your problem is that you are thinking about current affiliates and not future ones. You piss on people here because they don't send you traffic, but your actions pretty much asure yourself you wont be getting any new ones from the people reading this. But what do you care GFY is all shit and the people not sending to you already are all probably losers anyway, so nothing for you to gain from then. Thats the mentality with you "quick buck" people you are thinking today today today ! not about gaining or lossing future affiliates, just fuck you attitude if you not sending me traffic today.

[will76]

No. We did not.... what we said is that we notified him that his account had been banned.

Whenever we ban an account we send a corresponding e-mail saying "Your quickbuck account has been banned for xyz reason."

Will, I have no beef with you, but honestly, you didn't even give us an opportunity to respond to the issue before you began treating it like a witchhunt... had AFF acted even 1/1000th as responsibly as we did, you would have dropped your assault against them overnight.

AFF told you to fuck yourself didnt they? So why don't you keep bashing them?

Don't be a dick for no reason. We handled this as well as a sponsor could handle it.

This problem WILL come up again with other sponsors. If you're the self appointed zango watchdog then why don't you act responsibly.

AFF stopped using zango and that dog has been beat to oblivion. I would be more willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if your attitude was different. Your slogan is " we fuck the surfer". Your sites have never ending pop up loops. the account in question appears to be an old account. your company has a history of being involved with "adware". Lots of little things that dont make you look good. But if you would have stated your case with class it would have been a lot more believable then to come out right away stating " we only do 1% of our business from GFY anyway" and then started your tirade of insulting people and calling us all shit.

We don't have the facts, we have to take your word for it, When you call us shit and insult everyone you are not making us want to trust you. At that point why even reply in the first place, you try to defend yourself but then insult people in the same post, you are spinning your wheels and not gaining any ground.

I am not self appointed anything. I just a noob who likes to bitch.

[will76]

Will76 = Fucking Idiot and nobody.

Since day 1.

Giving em a response only makes his cock harder he is also voted one of GFY's most useless idiots amoung the other idiots.

SO that makes em king idiot.

yeap your wealth of wisdom never ceases to amaze me... you don't like me therefore I am an idiot and a nobody.

What ever makes you feel better about yourself... you just keep thinking that. I am glad I can make you feel better.

[BOSS1]

i guess the drama will go on... can't we all just get along

[After Shock Media]

Only one real question to quickbuck assuming you will answer it here since most of us do not matter anyways.

If I find a site that is using my copyrighted exclusive content to promote your program and I send you a proper DMCA via a personal non public route in a professional business like manor, would you forfeit any earned affiliate funds they pulled to me from the offending site and how much legal fighting would it take to get their information or would you honestly just give it up with a legal subpoena without a fight?

I figure you could collect the older fraudulant funds from them if you desired to do so and would have no reason to not turn over all funds earned. Specially if it was handled in a professional business like manor, or are my hopes to high?

[mikeyddddd]

Why do we owe you an apology? We didn't buy the traffic.

People apologize for things they do wrong, not for things the do right (like finding out about the issue and terminating the affiliate promptly).

How many joins per day have you stopped sending me exactly because of this? 0 or 0?

I don't mean this in pimpdog self destructive kind of way, but my only obligation is to my active affiliates.. not to random people who's sole claim to existence is their ability to post on gfy.

We take *great* care of our affiliate from huge payouts, custom sites, bonus points and more. If you are an actual affilliate, then you have likely already spoken to us personally and directly.

Forgive me for not being more humble and loving towards people who don't do business with me.

People have been complaining about CCBill ratios for awhile. You could have apologized for one of your affiliates possibly causing part of that.

In one of the threads, I mentioned that I had just started sending a few dozen hits a day to your program because of the $50 PPS. I have only put up links for a few sites and was in the process of putting up more.

Luckily (or unluckily) because of similiar situations in the past, I have a process where I can pull links quickly now.

I rarely, if ever, contact any programs or their representatives. If you like, I will contact you at your convenience to discuss this matter.

[Quick Buck]

We don't have the facts

Correct. Nor do you have the facts about the past either.

I am not self appointed anything. I just a noob who likes to bitch.

Wow, you sure type a lot for somebody new. You must have very strong fingers. Congratulations.

[stev0]

come on are you serious??? It was posted here and with in 10 mins the zango use had stopped. During which time it was mentioned here that QuickBuck had been notifed of the gfy thread. SO you suggest that affiliates check their stats every 5 mins I check at most 5 - 6 times a day, some times less. If you check your stats every couple minutes that doesn't leave you much time to... work?

Jesus man, you're a successful webmaster and still checking stats manually? Get with the program, stats remote has been around for years

Anyway QuickBuck admitted to contacting this guy and giving him a heads up. So from the time it was posted here, Quickbuck was notifed of this happening and they contacted the person doing it, who then killed his zango campaigns. All in the matter of 10 - 20 mins. That tells me that Quickbuck knew the "affilaite" really well. Either someone who they had on ICQ or picked up the phone and got in touch with them asap. Also, if this was an affiliate they knew well one would think it would only be logical that the affiliate would have let quickbuck know what they were doing.I mean come on, that is the type of activity you get approved before you start doing it.

So they contacted him and asked him to stop... sounds like a reasonable response to me.

But we all know how this game works, 9 out of 10 times the affiliate company makes an account and then uses it themself so they can deny it when they get caught. Sexbankroll was the only idiot that used zango and used their own urls LOL can't blame an affiliate on that, oh wait those idiots tried anyway.

Forgive me if i'm completely off base here, I haven't read too much into this little drama.

Although we both agree that it should be... zango is not illegal, and if they were comfortable with using it then getting "busted" on GFY wouldn't matter to them. You act as if they've committed a crime and have something to fear, if they came out and said "yes, we're using zango" what exactly would they have to loose? You could say they would lie about it to avoid the bad publicity... but do you honestly believe that any affiliates making good money with quickbuck would quit promoting them over something like this? And you really think they care about a bunch of newbie sheep that haven't made them a dime posting their opinions and bashing them in a GFY thread? On both accounts, I highly doubt it.

If quickbuck says they're not using zango then I'd be willing to bet they're probably not using zango.

[Quick Buck]

Only one real question to quickbuck assuming you will answer it here since most of us do not matter anyways.

If I find a site that is using my copyrighted exclusive content to promote your program and I send you a proper DMCA via a personal non public route in a professional business like manor, would you forfeit any earned affiliate funds they pulled to me from the offending site and how much legal fighting would it take to get their information or would you honestly just give it up with a legal subpoena without a fight?

I figure you could collect the older fraudulant funds from them if you desired to do so and would have no reason to not turn over all funds earned. Specially if it was handled in a professional business like manor, or are my hopes to high?

If you contact us in a professional manner, i'll respond to you in a professional manner... I never said anybody had to send us a DMCA notice... i just said GFY is not our support forum.

[After Shock Media]

If you contact us in a professional manner, i'll respond to you in a professional manner... I never said anybody had to send us a DMCA notice... i just said GFY is not our support forum.

Thanks for a partial answer, would you be so kind to address the rest of the question.

I just added the DMCA portion in as it is the legit and professional way to notify others of content infringement.

[Quick Buck]

those are strange questions to ask on a message board.

[After Shock Media]

those are strange questions to ask on a message board.

To me they are not, and a message board is as good as any place to ask since it is a very honest question about personal/company policy.

[JFK]

those are strange questions to ask on a message board.

as the Doors said.............."People are strange"

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

you don't like me therefore I am an idiot and a nobody.

Correct...

[PunkRockXXX]

Will76 = Fucking Idiot and nobody.

Since day 1.

Giving em a response only makes his cock harder he is also voted one of GFY's most useless idiots amoung the other idiots.

SO that makes em king idiot.

didnt AlienQ hit rock bottom and basically suck dick on cam for content for money a year or so back?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

didnt AlienQ hit rock bottom and basically suck dick on cam for content for money a year or so back?

Umm no.
To bad you do not know me.

[Paul Markham]

Until this industry adopts a code of conduct that the billers are forced to apply by Visa this kind of thing will never stop. On one side I see wanting as little restrictions as possible and on the other side I see people breaking a non existing code of conduct, except TOS. Freedom can easily turn into anarchy.

An affiliate or sponsor hijacking traffic is not illegal, it's unethical and the affiliate will be doing that to others. The thread points out the culprit is off looking for another sponsor. How long will that take? Will Quick Bucks tell us who it is.

If Quick Bucks wanted to they could out the affiliate, they will send a note to CCBILL and Epoch who will tag his account. I'm sure the CCBILL support guys are all over this, what's their response? They know where the checks go.

What amazes me is the billers allow this. If I'm right in my interpretation of what I've read this is what happens. A surfer goes through a tour and likes it enough to join, so goes to the join form. At this point he gets a pop up from another site. That would lead to a pissed off surfer and possible a charge back.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[will76]

Jesus man, you're a successful webmaster and still checking stats manually? Get with the program, stats remote has been around for years


:

thanks for the advice. I will go pay for stats remote to type in my login info for clickcash so i can log in to stats remote instead of clickcash when 95%+++ of my sales comes from 1 company what is the need for stats remote. I havent checked other sponsors in months.

[will76]

Correct...

AlienQ " dot xxx is a good thing we need it "

AlienQ " having 3+ prechecked cross sales ads value for the surfer "


have to be the dumbest fuck on this whole board. You could probably take the 10 next dumb people put them together and you would still be more dumb then them.

And you weren't successful... because you never got a big break and no one gave you a lot of money to start with? ?? Just another stupid comment... you spit them out daily. Your post are good for comedy purposes only. If you don't believe me, ask around. you are an idiot.

[SuckOnThis]

Why do we owe you an apology? We didn't buy the traffic.

Because it is YOUR affiliate and you are responsible for the actions of your affiliates both legally and ethically. So instead of acting concerned you come in here with an arrogant attitude and shift the blame with no responsibility. I find it laughable you call yourself a business man.

[Zester]

Absolutely correct. Screaming on GFY = nothing ~ if you're not ready to call a lawyer you might as well just say nothing at all.

well affiliates DID remove links to sponsors that used Zango.
not that that is enough but it did some damage to those sponsors and it is better than nothing

[Forest]

I have to say this

when I read the first thread I immediatly contacted wiseman about it via ICQ to see what was going on

he replied to me in very short time and explained to me the situation

Thats the way biz should be done.

Its a shame this industry has been reduced to slamming people on boards FIRST and not contacting the program first

[Quickdraw]

I have to say this

when I read the first thread I immediatly contacted wiseman about it via ICQ to see what was going on

he replied to me in very short time and explained to me the situation

Thats the way biz should be done.

Its a shame this industry has been reduced to slamming people on boards FIRST and not contacting the program first

Yeah, well, you ever think people get tired of contacting sponsors only to be ignored?
Quickbuck / idownload has a history of this stuff.
Here are a few links to help the few that don't know the history of quickbuck.
http://xbiz.com/articles/10484 -- idownload === quickbuck

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sil...d=99522&page=1
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...8695~mode=flat
http://ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pes...x?id=453082740

Trying to silence antispyware companies-
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12733617
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Spyware/index...logthis=1&p=28
http://windowssecrets.com/comp/050224

Sunbelt's response to their threats
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/blog..._idownload.pdf (PDF)

A history of unethical marketing
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=496

Google results about this malware company.
http://www.google.com/search?q=idown...f&start=0&sa=N

[Quickdraw]

If we had some history of bidding on zango I guess I'd assume the worst too... but I do not believe anybody has ever claimed we buy Zango traffic before.
Finallly... for those of you who like to spout assumptions as though they are facts....QuickBuck does not generate our own traffic and never has. 100% of our traffic is affiliate driven, we don't mail, don't bid on ppc, don't buy gallery spots etc..etc.. etc..

Why use zango when you have your own version?
isearch.com/advertise_cpv.php

How Does iSearch Target End User's?
A team of more than 20 people have manually categorized the 100,000 most popular web sites on the Internet into one of the categories listed below. When a user utilizing our desktop advertising software visits one of the targeted URL's, if you have bid on the corresponding category, your web site will be displayed to the end user. If multiple advertisers are bidding on a category that you are interested in, higher bids will result in a higher likelihood of their ad being shown, so you can continue to receive new visitors even if you are the lowest bidder.

[Minte]

i'm sorry, do i owe the good people of gfy something?

had we been approached with a question of "QuickBuck, what the heck is going on?" then we would have approached it with an answer of "ok, we're looking into it, give us a few hours".

Do you see any threads giving us even close to a suggested opportunity to look into it?

The moment I saw the threads I knew exactly what the result of any explanation would be... just check the first few threads, the assumption is that if we don't admit to actively stealing joins that we are lying... so we're either lying or stealing?

treat me with respect, contact me about concerns, and I will do the same to you... treat me like a crook and I will treat you like an idiot.

That's an excellent post. Just because it's GFY it doesn't give the masses a right to become a lynch squad. I don't promote Quickbucks now ,but I will soon. I like the idea of doing business with business people.

[DaddyHalbucks]

1) GFY users account for about 1% of our joins and traffic. I don't really care if you pull sigs or links. Have a field day in the zoo jumping up and down screaming "down with quickbuck"... You guys did a great job with AFF.. boy you taught them a big lesson... i think I saw lars begging for paypal donations in another thread recently (catch the sarcasm cause i'm laying it on thick).

2) You can absolutely link to join pages with quickbuck.. just add "/join" to the end of the link code.. some of the join pages go straight into our processor page.. some go to graphical join pages. Depend's on the site.

3) We have over 250 sites... only about half of which are listed.. if you ask us we can enable other sites for you. It's how we keep sites from getting oversaturated. We add about a site a week on average.. unannounced.

4) It absolutely is *not* us buying the traffic. If we get a subpoena for the information then we'll be happy to provide it... and I think you'd all be suprised who the affiliate really *is*.. but we don't turn over that kind of information without a court order... and no, i don't mean the court of gfy.

5) When the screen shot was posted, it did not include a nats code that would allow us to actually look up the account. The first time I saw it I didn't even know what it was because it said "hotbar".

6) There are probably other affiliates out there buying traffic to our sites via zango... if it gets brought to our attention we'll ban the affiliate.

People.. get real, this faux-drama got posted as an anonymously hosted screenshot at a free image hosting service on a weekend with no affiliate code. We ended up finding the offending affiliate by digging up the member id through the database.

If we had some history of bidding on zango I guess I'd assume the worst too... but I do not believe anybody has ever claimed we buy Zango traffic before.

Finallly... for those of you who like to spout assumptions as though they are facts....QuickBuck does not generate our own traffic and never has. 100% of our traffic is affiliate driven, we don't mail, don't bid on ppc, don't buy gallery spots etc..etc.. etc..

If i were so inclined I could buy traffic to twisty's to pop over the hun... is it Shap's fault if I do that? How would he know if nobody reported it?

Don't believe us? I guess thats your choice... but we're paying $50 on free trials til 2008 and a hell of a lot of people are cleaning up.

Don't be a sheep and let the "revshare rangers" convince you that everybody smarter than them is bad.

Great post!

[Forest]

That's an excellent post. Just because it's GFY it doesn't give the masses a right to become a lynch squad. I don't promote Quickbucks now ,but I will soon. I like the idea of doing business with business people.

i agree 100%

[RawAlex]

I have to say this

when I read the first thread I immediatly contacted wiseman about it via ICQ to see what was going on

he replied to me in very short time and explained to me the situation

Thats the way biz should be done.

Its a shame this industry has been reduced to slamming people on boards FIRST and not contacting the program first

I can imagine the phone call: "Fucking pesky GFY people caught us with our pants down, but it's okay, because as soon as Will76 started posting, we picked on him instead and called him names and most people won't remember this next week anyway".

Yeah. Great.

Want to make a Quick Buck? Steal someone else's traffic.

[Blazing]

Here are some more...

www.jessicajaymes.org
www.heathervandeven.org
www.bonita-saint.net
www.chantellefontain.org
www.kellyhavel.org
www.kristaayne.org - penthouse i think?
www.stephaniewood.org

www.shaylaren.org
www.julietcariaga.net
www.stacymoran.org
www.tastytara.org
http://www.anjalikara.org/

Adding to the list....

Blazingbucks runs the .com of these sites..

http://leahluv.net/
http://pumaswede.org/
http://lelastar.org/
http://www.haileyyoung.net/

The owner of all these sites is ripping us off big time... if joining forces will help take this guy down, then lets get all the owners of the real sites ban together for some action... Hopefully Quickbuck will step up to the plate and ban this guy first off, identify him secondly, and then we can try and take action.

I welcome all owners of the real sites to contact me on this one...

[Blazing]

If you contact us in a professional manner, i'll respond to you in a professional manner... I never said anybody had to send us a DMCA notice... i just said GFY is not our support forum.

Please provide me your ICQ# and I will contact you as requested.. the following sites are using content to promote your site xxxpass.com which is a violation of TOS for the use of this content.

http://leahluv.net/
http://pumaswede.org/
http://lelastar.org/
http://www.haileyyoung.net/

[RawAlex]

Blazing, do everyone a big favor - send a DMCA notice to the guy, and then send a DMCA notice to GOOGLE. Get this shit out of the SERPs!

[Common Sense]

i think you guys would be surprised just who owns those sites. there is a company here that has quite a history of domain squatting.

[Common Sense]

gotta love them requesting you to act in a professional manner. the same company that had a partner throw chairs out high story windows at shows and literally spit in the face of people because they cant handle alcohol.

[M13]

errr

white collar crime hey...is it not easier to just put on a balaclava and hold up banks ?

[RawAlex]

white collar crime hey...is it not easier to just put on a balaclava and hold up banks ?

It messes up their hair. Having "rogue affiliates" is a much more efficient way to do things.


Rogue Affiliates are the "two black gang members" of online crime.

[Blazing]

Blazing, do everyone a big favor - send a DMCA notice to the guy, and then send a DMCA notice to GOOGLE. Get this shit out of the SERPs!

Thats a good suggestion for a good start... how about we get all the owners of the .com versions of these sites to do the same.. ( and there are 100's others that this guy is ripping off... )

www.jessicajaymes.org
www.heathervandeven.org
www.bonita-saint.net
www.chantellefontain.org
www.kellyhavel.org
www.kristaayne.org -
www.stephaniewood.org
www.shaylaren.org
www.julietcariaga.net
www.stacymoran.org
www.tastytara.org
http://www.anjalikara.org/
http://leahluv.net/
http://pumaswede.org/
http://lelastar.org/
http://www.haileyyoung.net/

i think you guys would be surprised just who owns those sites. there is a company here that has quite a history of domain squatting.

ok.. surprise us with the name....

[baddog]

Might want to check with your good friend Martina and see if her or Penthouse authorized this content without any watermark as a heads up...

http://www.martinawarren.org/

If there is a reasonably popular solo girl that did not get her .org or .net, you will find her amongst the links somehow.....

Done, thanks

[Loki]

The content on anjalikara.org is exclusive to us from our site http://anjali.uncovered.com Now kill his account please

Yeah right!

How come this has been avoided still???

On a side note, the ONLY way to avoid ANY board from being " ________'s support board" is to (drumroll) KILL THE BOARDS.

People who say "This is not OUR support board" are simply using the biggest cop-out they can, this is a public fourm (in the sense that the public reads it) and the affils at large AS WELL as other programs deserve to know who's trying to cheat them, by "asking" as well as "demanding" that any board is NOT your support board your really only hurting yourselves in the long run.

So... in closing you want people to stop pestering you on boards?

Pull your accounts, ads, sigs, contests and any other promotions you do with them, no more sig whores, staff members, spa... err I mean "Announcements" and then people will just plain forget about you and your program.

But then again you really want ALL OF THIS, it saves you from having to do any actual work, just sit back wait for some peon (no offense folks) to find a no-no and make a thread about it, then some other peon (see above) alerts you and then you "solve" the problem.... mind you by not making anything "public" you just SAY you 'solved' the issue, and then you bitch at anyone who doubts you and THEN you pull the "not our support board" card..... and yet IT IS!

Welcome to the wonderful world of porn folks

-Loki-

[Quickdraw]

It messes up their hair. Having "rogue affiliates" is a much more efficient way to do things.


Rogue Affiliates are the "two black gang members" of online crime.

Yeah, I'm sure a rogue affiliate is promoting xxxpass because of its wonderful tour. Oh wait, there is no tour. Today just a link to the members area, Friday it had one whole link to join and the link to the members area.

It is nice, again, to see the true colors of the other programs/people that endorse this type of activity.

[Spike D]

Thats a good suggestion for a good start... how about we get all the owners of the .com versions of these sites to do the same.. ( and there are 100's others that this guy is ripping off... )

www.jessicajaymes.org
www.heathervandeven.org
www.bonita-saint.net
www.chantellefontain.org
www.kellyhavel.org
www.kristaayne.org -
www.stephaniewood.org
www.shaylaren.org
www.julietcariaga.net
www.stacymoran.org
www.tastytara.org
http://www.anjalikara.org/
http://leahluv.net/
http://pumaswede.org/
http://lelastar.org/
http://www.haileyyoung.net/




ok.. surprise us with the name....

I actually made this post back in Feb 2007 about the same problem. It has been going on for a while. n Since QB already termed the affiliate, anyone got some good ideas get the illegal pictures taken down. I know the owner of CarolCox.com gave it a pretty good shot to no avail....

"Since GFY is the place to get to word out....

Just found this site using at least two girls content and I suspect all the girls content illegally. There are no watermarks or links back to any of the girls. Who ever this is has gotten themselves up to number 2 or in some cases number 1 on google using the girls name but with a .org (not technically illegal....I guess) But their site is using the girls pictures to link to a site in no way affiliated with said girls. Here are a couple of the girls this is happening to...

CelesteFox.com

and the site using unathorized content

CelesteFox.org

and here are a few more...

AlmondTease.com

the number 2 site in google for Almond Tease

almondtease.org

and one more, although there are many...

CarolCox.com

and the non watermarked site

CarolCox.org

All the links of the .org sites eventually link to:


http://wow.eroticagateway.com/signup/signup.php?step=signup&nats=NDE5MzM6MzA6MTIw&tour= tour2
I tried to email them to let them know about one of their affiliates, but having trouble finding an email on the whois or anywhere else. I am sure they would like to know about this. This person even has Arika Ames pictures up! Insert timeline...

You can also find pictures of tons others

If I am making a mistake on the other girls, my public apologies..."

__________________

[tony286]

That's an excellent post. Just because it's GFY it doesn't give the masses a right to become a lynch squad. I don't promote Quickbucks now ,but I will soon. I like the idea of doing business with business people.

Thats how a business person is supposed to act? Man you must read different books than me. lol

[SureFire]

Umm no.
To bad you do not know me.

Last year when you were beggin for work or money, on another board, you stated that you were letting guys suck your cock for food money because your wife and you were hungry.

Nothing wrong with be content, but there is really something wrong about denying it. IMO, QuickBucks look like an angel compared to you! Very sad.

[brand0n]

i can say this proudly

see mother fucking sig

50 bucks per. what are you, stupid?

[Minte]

Thats how a business person is supposed to act? Man you must read different books than me. lol

I don't need books about business anymore. I've run a mainstream company since long before there was an internet.

Reread the quote I commented on. QuickBuck said it perfectly in my opinion.
Specifically the final sentence underlined.

Originally Posted by Quick Buck
i'm sorry, do i owe the good people of gfy something?

had we been approached with a question of "QuickBuck, what the heck is going on?" then we would have approached it with an answer of "ok, we're looking into it, give us a few hours".

Do you see any threads giving us even close to a suggested opportunity to look into it?

The moment I saw the threads I knew exactly what the result of any explanation would be... just check the first few threads, the assumption is that if we don't admit to actively stealing joins that we are lying... so we're either lying or stealing?

Treat me with respect, contact me about concerns, and I will do the same to you... treat me like a crook and I will treat you like an idiot

[Wiseman]

People have been complaining about CCBill ratios for awhile. You could have apologized for one of your affiliates possibly causing part of that.

In one of the threads, I mentioned that I had just started sending a few dozen hits a day to your program because of the $50 PPS. I have only put up links for a few sites and was in the process of putting up more.

Luckily (or unluckily) because of similiar situations in the past, I have a process where I can pull links quickly now.

I rarely, if ever, contact any programs or their representatives. If you like, I will contact you at your convenience to discuss this matter.

Hit me up any time I am always online and contact is in my sig

[Pipecrew]

"It is possible that the scrupulously honest man may not grow rich so fast as the unscrupulous and dishonest one; but the success will be of a truer kind, earned without fraud or injustice. And even though a man should for a time be unsuccessful, stil?

Samuel Smiles

[Papillon]

Alex, go jump off a bridge.

I would attack you but lonely fat middle aged men making $30k a year and hanging out with 18 year old kids on porno message boards don't have much take away by attacking them.

We're reasonable business people.. if somebody is doing something that is somehow infringing on your rights and you think we're involved then feel free to send an email to webmaster@ or vip@ quickbuck.com and we will happily and professionally handle it.

GFY is not our support department.

you keeping dissing GFY yet you cant stop fucking post here.

let me teach you a new word - H Y P O C R I T E

[Papillon]

Great post!

christ you are a fucking tool