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  • VS brad
    Registered User
    • Jan 2006
    • 95

    #1

    Video Secrets / Policy Change & Lifetime Payouts

    Over the past 8 days many of you were witness to a long and sometimes heated thread regarding our decision to suspend an affiliate account for lack of activity. Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT.

    The affiliate in question will receive any and all monies that were withheld for the 7 months his account was in suspension. In addition, he will continue to receive his commissions on a monthly basis as long as the customer he referred continues to make purchases; regardless of whether he sends another click.

    We have posted an amendment to our Terms & Conditions clearly stating that we will not suspend an account for lack of promotional activity.


    http://www.videosecrets.com/terms.php
    (Section 6.4)

    It has been said that decisions are always correct when you make them, but they can stop being correct soon thereafter. In this case it?s clear that what is in the best interest of Video Secrets, our thousands of performers and our affiliates is a policy which goes out of its way to pay affiliates for life.

    We hope that those of you who made some very out of line personal attacks in the other threads will think twice before doing that again. There are always two sides to every controversy and while the wheels of progress sometimes move slowly we feel they have stopped on a positive outcome for all.

    Back to Business.

    Brad Estes
    Manager of Operations
    Video Secretes
  • TurboAngel
    H.B.I.C.
    • Jun 2003
    • 30122

    #2
    Sig spot. LOL

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    • munki
      Do Fun Shit.
      • Dec 2004
      • 13393

      #3
      Sigitus spoticus...

      And good move guys...

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      • TurboAngel
        H.B.I.C.
        • Jun 2003
        • 30122

        #4
        Sig spot. LOL

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        • D_Unit
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2005
          • 388

          #5
          Nice to hear that
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          • jact
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2002
            • 9134

            #6
            I'll read after reserving my sig spot.
            Free agent

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            • Klen
              • Aug 2006
              • 32235

              #7
              Am afraid you are too late....

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              • u-Bob
                there's no $$$ in porn
                • Jul 2005
                • 33063

                #8
                see sig.

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                • Sands
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3134

                  #9
                  It's very good of you to continue paying Chrome, and to amend your TOS, but I'm still wary of your company since this "positive outcome" took you so long to produce.

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                  • st0ned
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 8437

                    #10
                    Wow, sig spot! That is awesome news for the affiliate that they had canceled.
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                    • Furious_Male
                      Doing the grind since 99
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 16884

                      #11
                      Interesting development. I am glad the drama that is spreading across the boards was worked out.
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                      • Chauncy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 642

                        #12
                        way to step up and do the right thing A+ move
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                        • Tjeezers
                          Webmaster
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 16603

                          #13
                          Good, i was waiting on this news.

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                          • jact
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 9134

                            #14
                            Positive outcome, good to see.
                            Free agent

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                            • Scroto
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2804

                              #15
                              crap, now i wish i had read those threads fully

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                              • IllTestYourGirls
                                Ah My Balls
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 14311

                                #16
                                way to save face

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                                • jact
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 9134

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sands
                                  It's very good of you to continue paying Chrome, and to amend your TOS, but I'm still wary of your company since this "positive outcome" took you so long to produce.
                                  When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization. There are a lot more opinions to hear, a lot more discussion to have. I am not defending the time it took them to come to the conclusion, simply explaining it. I know Homegrown has taken much longer to move on some issues due to the same type of structure, so I can relate to their pain there. The important thing at the end of the day is that they did do the right thing, and it wasn't years later.
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                                  • kenny
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                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 7245

                                    #18
                                    Good job.

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                                    • BVF
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                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 13975

                                      #19
                                      Thank Goodness the little man prevailed for once.....

                                      Now it's time to unban Chrome....

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                                      • RayBonga
                                        too cool for highschool
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 12164

                                        #20
                                        Better late then never

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                                        • macromind
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 202

                                          #21
                                          sig spot! cheers for that decision but I certainly hope the asshole got fired over that... VS must have lost lots of $ based on the Alexa drop!
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                                          • Bugbee
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                                            • Jun 2004
                                            • 4609

                                            #22
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                                            • kenny
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                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 7245

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jact
                                              When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization. There are a lot more opinions to hear, a lot more discussion to have. I am not defending the time it took them to come to the conclusion, simply explaining it. I know Homegrown has taken much longer to move on some issues due to the same type of structure, so I can relate to their pain there. The important thing at the end of the day is that they did do the right thing, and it wasn't years later.
                                              As long as the end result is satisfactory.

                                              They would of saved face with a quicker decison though.
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                                              • SexualDragon
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2006
                                                • 3038

                                                #24
                                                This is good news
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                                                • halfpint
                                                  GFY's Halfpint
                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                  • 15223

                                                  #25
                                                  Nice to hear you and the affliate have sorted it out

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                                                  • DateDoc
                                                    Outside looking in.
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 14243

                                                    #26
                                                    That was the right thing to do.

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                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 34512

                                                      #27
                                                      Glad to see a thread like this.
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                                                      • RayBonga
                                                        too cool for highschool
                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                        • 12164

                                                        #28


                                                        might have had somethign to do with this outcome

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                                                        • jakethedog
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 2497

                                                          #29
                                                          sitting waiting for the 5 pager
                                                          No sig .. just me

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                                                          • Miss Munki
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2007
                                                            • 1355

                                                            #30

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                                                            • Pokey the Turtle
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                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                              • 216

                                                              #31
                                                              there you go chrome
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                                                              • MaDalton
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                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 39861

                                                                #32
                                                                good to see
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                                                                • Tjeezers
                                                                  Webmaster
                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                  • 16603

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by RayBonga


                                                                  might have had somethign to do with this outcome
                                                                  Of course

                                                                  Facts are always a eye opener

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                                                                  • Pokey the Turtle
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2007
                                                                    • 216

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by RayBonga


                                                                    might have had somethign to do with this outcome
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                                                                    • Matiz
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 1740

                                                                      #35
                                                                      good move
                                                                      ...

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                                                                      • JFK
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                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                        • 67373

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Glad to see the situation being resolved

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                                                                        • Camco
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                          • 137

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by RayBonga


                                                                          might have had somethign to do with this outcome
                                                                          I'd say this had alot to do with it,

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                                                                          • Sands
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2007
                                                                            • 3134

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by jact
                                                                            When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization. There are a lot more opinions to hear, a lot more discussion to have. I am not defending the time it took them to come to the conclusion, simply explaining it. I know Homegrown has taken much longer to move on some issues due to the same type of structure, so I can relate to their pain there. The important thing at the end of the day is that they did do the right thing, and it wasn't years later.
                                                                            I understand your point, but I'm skeptical. I'm very, very skeptical. I really don't want to continue jabbing VS since they did the right thing, but I'm curious about how long it took them to create that official response to this thread where they tried to justify their tactics by placing the blame on the affiliate in question, by characterizing him as a freeloader who's undeserving of continued revshare from a "single click", as a belligerent man who berated VS employees after he was told he wouldn't receive the money he's owed.

                                                                            Yes, what a positive outcome indeed for VS... being patted on the back for doing what they should have done in the first place. Excuse me while I break out the champagne and hookers.

                                                                            Quite frankly, the real positive outcome from this was a group of united affiliates pushing for a compatriot. Everyone talks about how organizing individuals in this industry is like herding cats. Looks like a few cats were herded.

                                                                            Good move on VS's part, better late than never, rah rah rah, enjoy the kudos fellas.
                                                                            Last edited by Sands; 06-19-2008, 02:48 PM.

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                                                                            • DigitalPimp
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 512

                                                                              #39
                                                                              it is unfortunate an affiliate had to make a post on here in order to get it resolved but all's well that ends well I guess.

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                                                                              • payd2purv
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jan 2008
                                                                                • 2727

                                                                                #40
                                                                                That's awesome!

                                                                                at that traffic chart.

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                                                                                • ladida
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 2179

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Finally. I guess some pretty big players did indeed pull their links.

                                                                                  Now just for chrome to be unbanned and witness that he indeed did get the last x months check, since checks tend to be lost in mail.
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                                                                                  • macromind
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                    • 202

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!
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                                                                                    • Zuzana Designs
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                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                      • 20897

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I'm very glad you guys did the right thing in the end .. I had a feeling you would .. Just wish it didn't have to go so far .. Good Job VS

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                                                                                      • _Richard_
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                                                        • 30991

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        thank god this is finished

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                                                                                        • fsudirectory
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2007
                                                                                          • 216

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by RayBonga
                                                                                          LOL Thats Awesome

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                                                                                          • DigitalPimp
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 512

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by macromind
                                                                                            We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!
                                                                                            Ha, not only get them out there but make them feel the consequences of their actions. I can see a lot of interest amoung affiliates for a group where all members agree to pull links when any one of the other members is able to prove to the group that they were wronged in some way. If anyone knows of such a group or wants to start one, show me where to signup!

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                                                                                            • uno
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                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                              • 18450

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              This was a no brainer from the beginning. Its almost more unbelievable how long it took them to come to this resolution and considering Brad's earlier responses.

                                                                                              I'm glad they did the right thing, but man...
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                                                                                              • ronaldo
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                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 5475

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by jact
                                                                                                When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization.
                                                                                                This much is definitely true, but I'm sorry, after the initial responses in the first thread this comes off as nothing more than self preservation.

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                                                                                                • IntenseJerry
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                                                                  • 785

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                                  Glad to see the situation being resolved
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                                                                                                  • kenny
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                    • 7245

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by macromind
                                                                                                    We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!

                                                                                                    There has always been a webmasters sydicate.
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